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The wave of immigration from Hong Kong is great for Britain
I'm no fan of the current government. But it has done the right thing for the Hong Kongers
ByAndrew Adonis
December 1, 2021


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Photo: Sean Pavone / Alamy Stock Photo
Being anti-Brexit and no fan of Boris Johnson or recent Labour leaders, yours truly has become a bit of a Cassandra of late. But I’m still a professional optimist with a passion, reinforced by 30 years in politics and policymaking, to build rather than to block, and to constantly seek out new sources of inspiration. And I have just found a big one: the wave of immigration from Hong Kong, now in the tens of thousands and soon possibly in the hundreds of thousands, which could be a powerhouse of growth and liberal optimism for Britain hereafter.

First, the numbers. In May the Home Office reported 34,000 visa applications from Hong Kongers seeking residency in the UK over just two months. This compared with just 5,354 applications for visas of any type by EU citizens in the first three months of the year, including as short-term visitors. In the six months since then, Hong Konger visa applications have risen to around 90,000. A fair number of them are actually coming, as I know from new residents in my own neighbourhood in central London.

And not just to London. A friend in Warrington held a tea party on Sunday for a newly arrived Hong Kong family around the corner, who chose the town because property is much cheaper than in the capital and there is a sizeable pre-existing Chinese community in Manchester. Why did they come to the UK? “We don’t want our children and grandchildren stuck in a repressive dictatorship,” said the mid-40s father, who ran an events business in Hong Kong. He has just got a job in a Manchester call centre, but obviously isn’t planning on hanging around phone banks for long before he gets going entrepreneurially.

To put this in perspective, my immigrant community—the Cypriots—has made a pretty big contribution to the UK since my parents’ generation started coming in large numbers from the 1950s. The total number of arrivals was about 80,000 over half a century. This wave of Hong Kongers is more like the Kenyan and Ugandan Asians—70,000 in just six years after 1968—and the number could end up being several times higher over not much longer. The right to visas has been extended to all British National (Overseas) passport holders: these currently number about 300,000 of Hong Kong’s 7.5m residents, but hundreds of thousands more are potentially eligible by virtue of having been born in the former British colony before it passed to China in 1997. The better comparison might end up being with EU migration since 2004: an estimated 1.5m.

It’s not just the numbers. My Cypriot community mostly arrived with little or no money, and mostly without good English, just plenty of ambition. Ditto the central and eastern Europeans after 2004. The Kenyan and Ugandan Asians mostly arrived with a bit of money, goodish English, and a ton of ambition.

The Hong Kongers have the lot: money, English, ambition—even British patriotism from the get-go. My Warrington friend told me that a group of new arrivals were at the local war memorial on Remembrance Sunday singing “O God, Our Help in Ages Past,” something my dad’s generation of Cypriots didn’t do because, well, they had been escaping not from the Chinese state but from the British army.

Let me give fulsome credit to the Johnson government, including Dominic Raab when he was foreign secretary, for doing the right and bold thing for the Hong Kongers. It is one of the bigger ironies of modern British politics that the party which took us out of the EU because of xenophobia is welcoming hundreds of thousands of Hong Kongers after barely any public or parliamentary debate. There probably should have been more debate. We all know why there wasn’t: had the Conservative Party been consulted, the doors would have slammed shut.

We haven’t even yet begun to see the upside—which is not just the immigrants themselves and all their drive to succeed. One of the topics at the Warrington tea party was the difficulty of moving pensions. If this can be sorted, and pensions can be moved from funds in Hong Kong or China, then conservative estimates—a $50k pension pot per migrant with a longish employment record—suggest there is $4.5bn available to be moved to the UK and invested in funds and businesses here.

Wow. And I mean wow. We shouldn’t be talking about Singapore but Hong Kong-on-Thames.

 
I am absolutely astonished that the Conservative party, the home of hatred for foreigners and coloured people generally, are banging the drum for letting in Hong Kong immigrants. Can someone explain this?
 
I am absolutely astonished that the Conservative party, the home of hatred for foreigners and coloured people generally, are banging the drum for letting in Hong Kong immigrants. Can someone explain this?

becuase they will be future asset for china hate and military intel n recruitment. opium feeders.
 
becuase they will be future asset for china hate and military intel n recruitment. opium feeders.

Yes, but you don't need that many. These people largely hate foreigners, and yet their letting in hordes of Chinese? I genuinely don't understand.
 
I am absolutely astonished that the Conservative party, the home of hatred for foreigners and coloured people generally, are banging the drum for letting in Hong Kong immigrants. Can someone explain this?
There are "good" foreigners and "bad" foreigners. ;)
 
Yes, but you don't need that many. These people largely hate foreigners, and yet their letting in hordes of Chinese? I genuinely don't understand.

the Chinese from hong kong make good slaves, yellow fever and submission from the asian.
 
There are "good" foreigners and "bad" foreigners. ;)

No. To the right wing of this country, there are only bad foreigners. What is happening is so out of the ordinary for British politics that I am really confused.

All foreigners are bad except for Hong Kong Chinese? Really?
 
No. To the right wing of this country, there are only bad foreigners. What is happening is so out of the ordinary for British politics that I am really confused.

All foreigners are bad except for Hong Kong Chinese? Really?
Just to piss of China.

Yes, their hatred for Chinese rise and quest for maintaining white supremacy is at this hateful and shocking level.
 
And the children of these Hong Kongers will turn pro China, just like the children of yellow flaggers, i.e. the South Vietnamese who fled after 1975 and now living in California, once they live long enough in the UK to feel that their Chinese blood and culture are superior than that of the natives.

My teenage daughter, together with her friend, unlike my generation, does not listen to Western music, but only Chinese and Korean music and sometimes Japanese music. Except Harry Potter, she does not watch Western movies, but Korean movies, time and time again. (And even Western young generation seems to prefer Korean music to American music now, in 21st century).

I cannot blame her. Of course when you see everyday on TV about the US: chaotic, barbaric, anti-vaxxers, huge COVID deaths number, filthiness, slums, protesting, looting and murdering and meanwhile you see a modern China with high speed trains, orderly and well-clothed mass, modern cities etc. which one do you incline to love. The young people does not care about Western propaganda about press freedom or religious freedom, they see a modern China and a backward West, that's enough.

A great asset for China in future to make Britain a permanent neo-colony, or a China's oversea province.
 
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No. To the right wing of this country, there are only bad foreigners. What is happening is so out of the ordinary for British politics that I am really confused.

All foreigners are bad except for Hong Kong Chinese? Really?

They're getting bonafide conservative voters that's why - immigrants from Hong Kong are middle class and above
 
This is a win-win method. Britain gets loyal servants and money. We get a city with fewer cockroaches. We Chinese will completely turn this city into our own land.
 
And the children of these Hong Kongers will turn pro China, just like the children of yellow flaggers, i.e. the South Vietnamese who fled after 1975 and now living in California, once they live long enough in the UK to feel that their Chinese blood and culture are superior than that of the natives.

My teenage daughter, together with her friend, unlike my generation, does not listen to Western music, but only Chinese and Korean music and sometimes Japanese music. Except Harry Potter, she does not watch Western movies, but Korean movies, time and time again. (And even Western young generation seems to prefer Korean music to American music now, in 21st century).

I cannot blame her. Of course when you see everyday on TV about the US: chaotic, barbaric, anti-vaxxers, huge COVID deaths number, filthiness, slums, protesting, looting and murdering and meanwhile you see a modern China with high speed trains, orderly and well-clothed mass, modern cities etc. which one do you incline to love. The young people does not care about Western propaganda about press freedom or religious freedom, they see a modern China and a backward West, that's enough.

A great asset for Chins in future to make Britain a permanent neo-colony, or a China's oversea province.

Their kids will be spitting in their faces for 1 of 3 reasons:

1. The self hating right wingers will spit in their face because they hate their parents for being shameful fobs that speak with heavy stereotypical Cantonese accents, being stereotypical doormats and making them look bad in public.

2. The bobas will spit in their face for being privileged racists who aren't doing enough to acknowledge their anti-blackness and learn critical race theory.

3. The reformed nationalists and leftists will spit in their face for being complicit cowards that ran away from a bright future and brought them to a shithole.

They have a great future to look forward to, where their own children treat them with mild disdain at best and absolute revulsion at worst. Every one of their worst nightmares is going to come true, they will never get to go back, the door is forever barred to them.
 
The wave of immigration from Hong Kong is great for Britain
I'm no fan of the current government. But it has done the right thing for the Hong Kongers
ByAndrew Adonis
December 1, 2021


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Photo: Sean Pavone / Alamy Stock Photo
Being anti-Brexit and no fan of Boris Johnson or recent Labour leaders, yours truly has become a bit of a Cassandra of late. But I’m still a professional optimist with a passion, reinforced by 30 years in politics and policymaking, to build rather than to block, and to constantly seek out new sources of inspiration. And I have just found a big one: the wave of immigration from Hong Kong, now in the tens of thousands and soon possibly in the hundreds of thousands, which could be a powerhouse of growth and liberal optimism for Britain hereafter.

First, the numbers. In May the Home Office reported 34,000 visa applications from Hong Kongers seeking residency in the UK over just two months. This compared with just 5,354 applications for visas of any type by EU citizens in the first three months of the year, including as short-term visitors. In the six months since then, Hong Konger visa applications have risen to around 90,000. A fair number of them are actually coming, as I know from new residents in my own neighbourhood in central London.

And not just to London. A friend in Warrington held a tea party on Sunday for a newly arrived Hong Kong family around the corner, who chose the town because property is much cheaper than in the capital and there is a sizeable pre-existing Chinese community in Manchester. Why did they come to the UK? “We don’t want our children and grandchildren stuck in a repressive dictatorship,” said the mid-40s father, who ran an events business in Hong Kong. He has just got a job in a Manchester call centre, but obviously isn’t planning on hanging around phone banks for long before he gets going entrepreneurially.

To put this in perspective, my immigrant community—the Cypriots—has made a pretty big contribution to the UK since my parents’ generation started coming in large numbers from the 1950s. The total number of arrivals was about 80,000 over half a century. This wave of Hong Kongers is more like the Kenyan and Ugandan Asians—70,000 in just six years after 1968—and the number could end up being several times higher over not much longer. The right to visas has been extended to all British National (Overseas) passport holders: these currently number about 300,000 of Hong Kong’s 7.5m residents, but hundreds of thousands more are potentially eligible by virtue of having been born in the former British colony before it passed to China in 1997. The better comparison might end up being with EU migration since 2004: an estimated 1.5m.

It’s not just the numbers. My Cypriot community mostly arrived with little or no money, and mostly without good English, just plenty of ambition. Ditto the central and eastern Europeans after 2004. The Kenyan and Ugandan Asians mostly arrived with a bit of money, goodish English, and a ton of ambition.

The Hong Kongers have the lot: money, English, ambition—even British patriotism from the get-go. My Warrington friend told me that a group of new arrivals were at the local war memorial on Remembrance Sunday singing “O God, Our Help in Ages Past,” something my dad’s generation of Cypriots didn’t do because, well, they had been escaping not from the Chinese state but from the British army.

Let me give fulsome credit to the Johnson government, including Dominic Raab when he was foreign secretary, for doing the right and bold thing for the Hong Kongers. It is one of the bigger ironies of modern British politics that the party which took us out of the EU because of xenophobia is welcoming hundreds of thousands of Hong Kongers after barely any public or parliamentary debate. There probably should have been more debate. We all know why there wasn’t: had the Conservative Party been consulted, the doors would have slammed shut.

We haven’t even yet begun to see the upside—which is not just the immigrants themselves and all their drive to succeed. One of the topics at the Warrington tea party was the difficulty of moving pensions. If this can be sorted, and pensions can be moved from funds in Hong Kong or China, then conservative estimates—a $50k pension pot per migrant with a longish employment record—suggest there is $4.5bn available to be moved to the UK and invested in funds and businesses here.

Wow. And I mean wow. We shouldn’t be talking about Singapore but Hong Kong-on-Thames.


Oh Gosh, even a Frog should know that it is a UK Magazine spilling out Fake news like the famous British BBC = Bull Shi.t Broadcasting Corporation. There is NO WAVE of Immigration from HK when the Chinese Government has banned all OUTBOUND International FLights. Freaking Liars ! :omghaha: :omghaha: :omghaha:
 
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