The Vietnam Solution

[ChineseTiger1986]

bạn ở nước ngoài có thể không biết.
Bạn hãy đọc "Đại Việt sử kí toàn thư"
Kỷ Hồng Bàng thị,
-Kinh Dương Vương,
-Lạc Long Quân,
-Hùng Vương,
viết: "Hùng vương lên ngôi, đặt quốc hiệu là Văn Lang..., bắc đến hồ Đồng đình..."
(tức là nam sông Dương T&#7917.
Có thể không tiện trao đổi thêm, mong bạn thông cảm.

Your compatriot has already pointed out that Van Lang was only located in the Delta of the Red River, yet you Viet Ultranationalists have fabricated the fake story about how South China was the land of Viet.

You guys blamed China for fabricating the fake map of the SCS, yet you guys are fabricating your own fake history, i smell so much double standard here.

 

[ChinaToday]

What soultion? no more solution is needed we already occupied the SCS accept it and move on

 

[EastSea]

Your compatriot has already pointed out that Van Lang was only located in the Delta of the Red River, yet you Viet Ultranationalists have fabricated the fake story about how South China was the land of Viet.

You guys blamed China for fabricating the fake map of the SCS, yet you guys are fabricating your own fake history, i smell so much double standard here.

Our History book stated from ancient time Van Lang territory's north point reached to Dongding Lake.

China in time of Chu Dynasty is limited from Yangxi river up to north.

What soultion? no more solution is needed we already occupied the SCS accept it and move on

Solution is that China have to obey rules of internal laws what china has been signed to join in.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Our History book stated from ancient time Van Lang territory's north point reached to Dongding Lake.

China in time of Chu Dynasty is limited from Yangxi river up to north.

Solution is that China have to obey rules of internal laws what china has been signed to join in.

Van Lang was only located in the delta of the Red River, while the Van Lang of your map even included Shanghai, can it be even more fake than that?

 

[EastSea]

Van Lang was only located in the delta of the Red River, while the Van Lang of your map even included Shanghai, can it be even more fake than that?

Shanghai was the land of Wo Yue in ancient time.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Shanghai was the land of Wo Yue in ancient time.

We look nothing like Viets, Wuyue and Minyue were closely related, and both were descended from the Yue Kingdom of the Spring and Autumn period, since King Goujian declared himself as the descendant of Dayu, the ancestor of Huaxia.

Yue (state) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[EastSea]

We look nothing like Viets, Wuyue and Minyue were closely related, and both were descended from the Yue Kingdom of the Spring and Autumn period, since King Goujian declared himself as the descendant of Dayu, the ancestor of Huaxia.

Yue (state) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I can do my Wiki.

Van Lang and Huaxia was two territory in East Asia in the past.
Qin emperor used Han immigrants for his advisers and conquered all the small states, included Wu Yue, Min Yue, YangYue, Dong Yue ...
King Goujian declared himself as the descendant of Dayu (Dai Ngu in Vietnamese), the ancestor of Huaxia is evidents for that himself was immigrant.
Van Lang was lost his territory.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I can do my Wiki.

Van Lang and Huaxia was two territory in East Asia in the past.
Qin emperor used Han immigrants for his advisers and conquered all the small states, included Wu Yue, Min Yue, YangYue, Dong Yue ...
King Goujian declared himself as the descendant of Dayu (Dai Ngu in Vietnamese), the ancestor of Huaxia is evidents for that himself was immigrant.
Van Lang was lost his territory.

Funny that the first King of Yue declared himself as Huaxia, not Baiyue, and btw you Viet should stop infringing the copyright of Yue from the Chinese.

 

[EastSea]

Funny that the first King of Yue declared himself as Huaxia, not Baiyue, and btw you Viet should stop infringing the copyright of Yue from the Chinese.

all Human in the world tried to find answers for their existence on earth. What did Viet or Han people thought about it in the ancient time when they are living in two different area ? It's nothing related to "copyright" what you say in 21th century.
Han Chinese think they came from Ban Co.
France people think they came from Goloa. Did France copied from China or Han copied from H'mong ?

 

[Đảo Bạch Long Vỹ]

Forget about the Bach Viet (Baiyue). We don't need them anymore. Now they are all Hans Chinese, no way they will support us.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Forget about the Bach Viet (Baiyue). We don't need them anymore. Now they are all Hans Chinese, no way they will support us.

You are not related to Baiyue, of course they will not support you.

 

[Đảo Bạch Long Vỹ]

You are not related to Baiyue, of course they will not support you.

Nah the Baiyue people are all died. Death people can't support anyone

 

[Rechoice]

all Human in the world tried to find answers for their existence on earth. What did Viet or Han people thought about it in the ancient time when they are living in two different area ? It's nothing related to "copyright" what you say in 21th century.
Han Chinese think they came from Ban Co.
France people think they came from Goloa. Did France copied from China or Han copied from H'mong ?

Yes Ban co is story of H'mong people, Han chinese copied the story from H'mong. Theft is talking about copyright, Ha ha.

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

Nobody denies lots of Chinese ran into Vietnam when the mainland suffered big turmoil.

But if the following history is twisted, tell us where:



Don't think Vietnam is a holly cow because you are the victims in modern time. Vietnam history has no less of atrocity in proportion to its capita or land mass.

Oh, my man! you are weeping for China's ally regime in Champa? The fact that Đại Việt and Champa united together to form "the United State of Champa and DaiViet", now known Việt Nam.

Do you know why we attacked Champa and then merging it? That's because Champa feudal state associated with China, frequently it combined with the Chinese military to attack Đại Việt from both sides. We could not live between two pincers, for survival, we were forced to break a pincer.
Remember that Champa attacked repeatedly Đại Việt, but Đại Việt did not do so with China. So the comparison is not reasonable.

BTW: Today the Cham are part of the community of the Vietnamese people.

In 1075, Wang Anshi, the prime minister, told the Song Dynasty emperor that Đại Việt was being destroyed by Champa, with less than ten thousand soldiers surviving, hence it would be a good occasion to annex Đại Việt. The Song emperor mobilized troops and passed decrees to forbid all the provinces to trade with Đại Việt. Upon hearing the news, the Lý ruler sent Lý Thường Kiệt and Nùng Tôn Đản with more than 100,000 troops to China to carry out a pre-emptive attack against the Song Dynasty troops. In the ensuing 40-day battle near modern-day Nanning, the Đại Việt troops were victorious, capturing the generals of three Song armies.
In 1076, the Songs formed an alliance with Champa and the Khmer Empire and sent troops to invade Đại Việt. Lý Nhân Tông sent, again, Lý Thường Kiệt. Being one of the many great military strategists of Vietnam, Lý Thường Kiệt had placed spikes under the Như Nguyệt River before tricking the Song troops into the deadly trap, killing more than 1,000 Chinese soldiers and forcing the Chinese to retreat.
Those two glorious victories over the Song stopped their attempt to extend south.
After the victory against the Song, he also led a Vietnamese army to invade Champa two times with big victories.
Lý Thường Kiệt is one of the national heroes of Vietnam.
He died in 1105, at the age of 86.

 

[asean_2015]

The best solution is to bring the issue of territorial water to an international court where everyone needs to obey the international laws.

Philippine has proposed this solution for their dispute but China refused. Does anyone know why?