The Uyghur issue

[rmi5]

Idk buddy. All I know is what I read and I wouldn't be surprised if misinformation is coming from your side.

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@rmi5

#1 we are not discussing religion on this forum as everyone knows, if people want to discuss they can go somewhere other than a defence forum, with that being said the reason the uyghur issue is being discussed here is known ,even though it doesn't belong in this section. #2 We don't allow people to make discrimination in our section, if someone had replaced the word Islam with Judaism in the following statement it would be considered antisemitic same applies to any other religion, statements like that will not be tolerated here.



#3 your going off into random off topic stuff about Turkish politics & history.

#1 You, yourself, started such discussion.
#2 LOL, every single member here knows that this forum is heavily biased and moderated in favor of muslim fanatics, so, your point here is obviously laughable.
#3 Xenon asked me to explain it.

be told that number one terrorist is not muslim states.. the ones who spread war most arewell known countrys..
man you are really agressive and full of hate.. so there is nothing I can say to you except this:

To you your religion and to me mine..

Yes, the number one terrorist states in the world are Iran, KSA, Qatar, Syria, Sudan, Turkey, UAE, and Pakistan, which are all muslims. If they don't start any wars(which they always do in some extent) is due to their extreme weakness, and NOT because of being civil.

 

[xenon54 out]

Yes, the number one terrorist states in the world are Iran, KSA, Qatar, Syria, Sudan, Turkey, UAE, and Pakistan, which are all muslims. If they don't start any wars(which they always do in some extent) is due to their extreme weakness, and NOT because of being civil.

So Turkey is terrorist state in your eyes?

 

[Timur]

#1 You, yourself, started such discussion.
#2 LOL, every single member here knows that this forum is heavily biased and moderated in favor of muslim fanatics, so, your point here is obviously laughable.
#3 Xenon asked me to explain it.


Yes, the number one terrorist states in the world are Iran, KSA, Qatar, Syria, Sudan, Turkey, UAE, and Pakistan, which are all muslims. If they don't start any wars(which they always do in some extent) is due to their extreme weakness, and NOT because of being civil.

I am not gonna respond to you anymore.. you are messed up, you fanatic, you are ultimate, donno why what happend or wich love happend to you or hurt you but you only see what you wanna see and your opinions are just Brevikish

 

[Nefer]

Kinda looks like his account is hijacked. Or he witnessed a big bad event and became more of the person he already was.

 

[xenon54 out]

Kinda looks like his account is hijacked. Or he witnessed a big bad event and became more of the person he already was.

No it isnt hijacked, something similar happened about a year ago but with Iranians, i feel like im having a deja vu.

 

[SouI]

#1 You, yourself, started such discussion.
#2 LOL, every single member here knows that this forum is heavily biased and moderated in favor of muslim fanatics, so, your point here is obviously laughable.
#3 Xenon asked me to explain it.


Yes, the number one terrorist states in the world are Iran, KSA, Qatar, Syria, Sudan, Turkey, UAE, and Pakistan, which are all muslims. If they don't start any wars(which they always do in some extent) is due to their extreme weakness, and NOT because of being civil.

And you are still sure that... you are azerbaijani? What kind of azerbaijani would see Turkey as a terrorist state FFS?

@Horus can you take care of this retard?

 

[Hiptullha]

My goal?!!! I am just talking about what is good for those poor people.

You won't see them parading Hui mullahs around. There are almost 9 minority Muslim groups in China last time I checked, with the Hui Chinese making up the majority of Chinese Muslims. Considering the fact that it's only the Ughyrs getting this treatment, I believe this isn't about doing "good" things to them.

 

[atatwolf]

You won't see them parading Hui mullahs around. There are almost 9 minority Muslim groups in China last time I checked, with the Hui Chinese making up the majority of Chinese Muslims. Considering the fact that it's only the Ughyrs getting this treatment, I believe this isn't about doing "good" things to them.

I have a question. What is the difference between Kashmir and East-Turkestan?

 

[Hiptullha]

I have a question. What is the difference between Kashmir and East-Turkestan?

Nothing. Both places have terrorists.

 

[rmi5]

And you are still sure that... you are azerbaijani? What kind of azerbaijani would see Turkey as a terrorist state FFS?

@Horus can you take care of this retard?

watch your mouth. retards are you and your family.

You won't see them parading Hui mullahs around. There are almost 9 minority Muslim groups in China last time I checked, with the Hui Chinese making up the majority of Chinese Muslims. Considering the fact that it's only the Ughyrs getting this treatment, I believe this isn't about doing "good" things to them.

I don't know much about Hui Chinese ethnicity, but I doubt if the overall situation is much different for them . Anyway, Uyghurs being oppressed is one thing, and this particular issue is another point. Like USSR which had many negative points for Caucasus and Central Asia, but not necessarily everything that they done was wrong.

I have a question. What is the difference between Kashmir and East-Turkestan?

nothing.

Nothing. Both places have terrorists.

East-Turkistan does not have that much terrorists. Most of Uyghurs are just seeking their own legitimate rights, and existence of a few religious fanatics does not mean that they are all like that.

 

[Hiptullha]

I don't know much about Hui Chinese ethnicity, but I doubt if the overall situation is much different for them . Anyway, Uyghurs being oppressed is one thing, and this particular issue is another point. Like USSR which had many negative points for Caucasus and Central Asia, but not necessarily everything that they done was wrong.

The Hui are treated far better and freely practice Islam whereas we've all heard how it is a different situation for Ughyrs.

 

[rmi5]

Kinda looks like his account is hijacked. Or he witnessed a big bad event and became more of the person he already was.

Although, I don't care about an islamist kurd, but I see that you are ready each time to jump in and comment about me. Why do you care? I remember that the last time that I was banned, you were the only member in this section that was happy. mind your own business, kurd. Having a turkish citizenship, does not make a kurd as my brother. I hope you can understand it.

The Hui are treated far better and freely practice Islam whereas we've all heard how it is a different situation for Ughyrs.

I cannot comment on that, but it does not make any difference. Uyghurs are not ethnically Chinese and had their own separate ruling system until some decades ago. So, no wonder if there are more tensions between them and PRC government compared to Hui Chinese.

So Turkey is terrorist state in your eyes?

Well, when they(AKP, government or whatever else you wanna call them) are directly/indirectly supporting terrorists(ISIS, and Kurds), then yes, they become a terrorist state.

 

[Nefer]

Although, I don't care about an islamist kurd, but I see that you are ready each time to jump in and comment about me. Why do you care? I remember that the last time that I was banned, you were the only member in this section that was happy. mind your own business, kurd. Having a turkish citizenship, does not make a kurd as my brother. I hope you can understand it.

Excelent, you make my heartless hole leap with joy, to see this emotions of you exploding. Making you someone more than the ordinary human ever can be. I really would like to see more people like you roam the world, the world will be a lot simpler

 

[Hiptullha]

I cannot comment on that, but it does not make any difference. Uyghurs are not ethnically Chinese and had their own separate ruling system until some decades ago. So, no wonder if there are more tensions between them and PRC government compared to Hui Chinese.

To claim this is solely based on trying to curb religion is foolish. The Hui are completely the same as the Han from what I here, the only mark of distinction, making them a recognized minority in the country is their religion. China is not anti-Islamic or trying to oppress Muslims. It is obviously a separatist issue. (I'd also like to add that I do not like the methods of the Chinese government in handling this. They should encourage integration, not try to stamp out the changes.)

 

[rmi5]

To claim this is solely based on trying to curb religion is foolish. The Hui are completely the same as the Han from what I here, the only mark of distinction, making them a recognized minority in the country is their religion. China is not anti-Islamic or trying to oppress Muslims. It is obviously a separatist issue. (I'd also like to add that I do not like the methods of the Chinese government in handling this. They should encourage integration, not try to stamp out the changes.)

I agree with you. The Uyghur-PRC government issue is an ethnic issue and not a religious issue. That's why I prefer them to stay away and being immune to infiltration of religious fanatics. The last thing that I want, is a TTP or AQ type of organization in a turkic society.

No it isnt hijacked, something similar happened about a year ago but with Iranians, i feel like im having a deja vu.

That isn't a friendly approach. Anyway, I was right back then. Was not I? I am right this time as well. The difference between me and some of you guys is being frank and knowing more about geopolitics.