True indeed that some members are truly delusional.
there must be a nuke program to surrender it , in case of Iran there was not such thing to begin it. as Islamic republic founder and Iran first supreme leader strictly prohibited going for such weapons.
True indeed that some members are truly delusional.
The U.S would never carpet bomb Iran. Not only is it a war crime to do so and it would get heavy critique for doing so. But also because both Russia and China would step in and help Iran if Iran requested it. A major general in China for example has even stated that China would not hesitate to protect Iran even if with a third world war, and China just recently signed an agreement with Iran that would expand their trade 600 billion dollars in the next decade. And Russia, well seeing how they had Syria's back...Don't you think they would help the Iranians if the Iranians requested it?
As well as what i mentioned earlier, Iran being something that the U.S hasn't come across since the WW2. A country with it's own missile capabilities, defence industry, and so on and so forth.
And considering that the U.S failed in both Afghanistan and Iraq. I highly doubt that they, as you so ignorantly put it "Would make mincemeat out of the Iranian forces in a couple of hours without having to use their "strategic weapons".
If that were true, they would have done it a long time ago. They realised during the Iran-Iraq war when they helped Saddam using weapons of mass destruction against Iran(whom just had gone through a revolution and had no real military and etc), that even with their help and that type of weaponry, Saddam still failed, and the U.S realised that they are not to take the Iranians lightly. And the more they wait, the more Iran is developing and progressing as a country. And that's why the Neo-cons, Israelis and the Saudis want the U.S to keep sanctions on Iran, not because of a non-existent Nuclear weapons programme, but because they want to Isolate and slow the rate in which Iran is developing. Simple as that.
And i don't really know what source you are using, when you say that Iran has surrendered it's nuclear programme? If you're talking about Nuke as in Nuclear weapons, no such programme has ever existed in Iran.
And in fact, right now there is a fight among nuclear energy companies from Russia, South Korea, China and Spain whom are competing to collaborate with Tehran on it's nuclear energy programme to develop it even futher. In fact, just after the JCPOA was adopted, Iran commenced construction of several more nuclear reactors.
@AmirPatriot Nah, it's over on my part. The guy is actually alright, if everyone just keeps it civilised and discusses everything based on fact and not on Chauvinistic feelings
. So please dont tell us that you didnt have a nuclear weapon program. You screwed it, caught with pants down and like good kids signed over the nuclear deal with west. its a meek surrender dude, and no nationalistic bravado can hide the embarrassment. I am actually fearing for Iran as before at least there was some ambiguity about the Iranian capabilities in nuke field, but now, looking at what happened to Libya after being offer similar deal by west, it seems we Muslims simply dont learn from past mistakes.
You knew we have something called Tehran research reactor which use 20% enriched uranium . for that we need centrifuge to enrich yellow UF6 gas .Listen mate, of all people, if you consider yourself a Islamic state, rest assured when push comes to shove, no one, I repeat no one would come to your help. Russian are in Syria because its their own interests they have to protect, NOT because of what you perceive as protection of Iranian interests. Are you bigger then Turkey when it comes to alliances and all? They are part of NATO, and when push comes to shove, they were left on their own after the Russian jet fiasco. You relying on foreign powers for your safety goes to show about your builtin insecurities. Its not me under delusion but I am afraid you are and your kind.
On what account US have failed in Iraq and Afghanistan? The idea was to cause havoc in Muslim lands and they achieved it quite spectacularly. They would not waste a breath to raise hell on Iran the day they calculated that Iran has lost its importance as far a American interests are concerned. At the moment, you are setting pretty well in their designs for the region, which is to cause internal strife among Muslims and let both parties, Shia and Sunnis be at each other throats. For them its the most cost effective way where they can stay in shadows and let Muslims themselves lit fire in their homes.
Of all people , its us the Pakistanis who know the true nature of your Nuclear program as it is us who supplied our older generation P1 and P2 centrifuges to you lot.
Hahah, and you know what, I am the queen of England!!!
So what those Pakistani build and patient Pakistan-1 (P1) and Pakistan-2 (P2) centrifuges doing in your nuclear sites? Come on dude, we gave you the resources to kick start your nuke program and your screwed it. Of all people, Pakistanis should be the last one you telling this mantra of "as Islamic republic founder and Iran first supreme leader strictly prohibited going for such weapons".
A question why nobody doubt about the end of Japan or Argentina nuclear program but when it come to Iran then everybody say its certainly for nukes .
I hadn't read the other threads where you have written about things like Ummah and Kaffir and what not and ""modern day crusaders".Listen mate, of all people, if you consider yourself a Islamic state, rest assured when push comes to shove, no one, I repeat no one would come to your help. Russian are in Syria because its their own interests they have to protect, NOT because of what you perceive as protection of Iranian interests. Are you bigger then Turkey when it comes to alliances and all? They are part of NATO, and when push comes to shove, they were left on their own after the Russian jet fiasco. You relying on foreign powers for your safety goes to show about your builtin insecurities. Its not me under delusion but I am afraid you are and your kind.
On what account US have failed in Iraq and Afghanistan? The idea was to cause havoc in Muslim lands and they achieved it quite spectacularly. They would not waste a breath to raise hell on Iran the day they calculated that Iran has lost its importance as far a American interests are concerned. At the moment, you are setting pretty well in their designs for the region, which is to cause internal strife among Muslims and let both parties, Shia and Sunnis be at each other throats. For them its the most cost effective way where they can stay in shadows and let Muslims themselves lit fire in their homes.
Of all people , its us the Pakistanis who know the true nature of your Nuclear program as it is us who supplied our older generation P1 and P2 centrifuges to you lot.
Hahah, and you know what, I am the queen of England!!!
So what those Pakistani build and patient Pakistan-1 (P1) and Pakistan-2 (P2) centrifuges doing in your nuclear sites? Come on dude, we gave you the resources to kick start your nuke program and your screwed it. Of all people, Pakistanis should be the last one you telling this mantra of "as Islamic republic founder and Iran first supreme leader strictly prohibited going for such weapons".
Shows your lack of technical info.
http://articles.latimes.com/2005/may/26/world/fg-pakistan26
Alexander sacked Greek cities. and roman sacked one of our four capital . the one which incidentally was not even 60km away from border.
True indeed that some members are truly delusional.
The U.S would never carpet bomb Iran. Not only is it a war crime to do so and it would get heavy critique for doing so. But also because both Russia and China would step in and help Iran if Iran requested it. A major general in China for example has even stated that China would not hesitate to protect Iran even if with a third world war, and China just recently signed an agreement with Iran that would expand their trade 600 billion dollars in the next decade. And Russia, well seeing how they had Syria's back...Don't you think they would help the Iranians if the Iranians requested it?
As well as what i mentioned earlier, Iran being something that the U.S hasn't come across since the WW2. A country with it's own missile capabilities, defence industry, and so on and so forth.
And considering that the U.S failed in both Afghanistan and Iraq. I highly doubt that they, as you so ignorantly put it "Would make mincemeat out of the Iranian forces in a couple of hours without having to use their "strategic weapons".
If that were true, they would have done it a long time ago. They realised during the Iran-Iraq war when they helped Saddam using weapons of mass destruction against Iran(whom just had gone through a revolution and had no real military and etc), that even with their help and that type of weaponry, Saddam still failed, and the U.S realised that they are not to take the Iranians lightly. And the more they wait, the more Iran is developing and progressing as a country. And that's why the Neo-cons, Israelis and the Saudis want the U.S to keep sanctions on Iran, not because of a non-existent Nuclear weapons programme, but because they want to Isolate and slow the rate in which Iran is developing. Simple as that.
And i don't really know what source you are using, when you say that Iran has surrendered it's nuclear programme? If you're talking about Nuke as in Nuclear weapons, no such programme has ever existed in Iran.
And in fact, right now there is a fight among nuclear energy companies from Russia, South Korea, China and Spain whom are competing to collaborate with Tehran on it's nuclear energy programme to develop it even futher. In fact, just after the JCPOA was adopted, Iran commenced construction of several more nuclear reactors.
@AmirPatriot Nah, it's over on my part. The guy is actually alright, if everyone just keeps it civilised and discusses everything based on fact and not on Chauvinistic feelings
. Even Chinese members here will laugh at this. If China never went to war against India for its dearest friend Pakistan in its time of need, why do you think they will do that for a foreign alien country far away from them like Iran?lol stop dreaming dude.
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