The Time of the Kurds to get independence

[pak-marine]

Small documentry produced by http://www.cfr.org/ seems like a US based think tank composed of former officials .. Kurds are looking to gain independence from Iran and Turkey they have already gained autonomy from Iraq and Syria ..with thanks to ISIS

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Small documentry produced by http://www.cfr.org/ seems like a US based think tank composed of former officials .. Kurds are looking to gain independence from Iran and Turkey they have already gained autonomy from Iraq and Syria ..with thanks to ISIS

Kurds wont gain "independance"

 

[pak-marine]

Kurds wont gain "independance"

They have gained autonomy in Iraq ., in Syria they are operating independently .. Its just a matter of time .. Iraki and syrians both at their weekest times and looks like situation will mot improve for them soon

 

[Maarkhoor]

They have gained autonomy in Iraq ., in Syria they are operating independently .. Its just a matter of time .. Iraki and syrians both at their weekest times and looks like situation will mot improve for them soon

delusional
@A.Rafay

 

[pak-marine]

delusional
@A.Rafay

Right so Can u lay down the real facts why this is delusional ..fyi My knowledge is very little on middl east and her affairs this is what it looks like .. hence why opened the thread !! You seems to be a expert so i would like to see your opinion

 

[fox 2]

About Turkey part.
Stupid propaganda for the Kurds. There is no civil war in Turkey. Do you think Kurds will get that population and easy life if we are in civil war ?
PKK terorrists killing our teachers, babies, trapping our patrol soldiers and bombing our hospitals. And we are hunting them. That' s the 40.000 casualties. Of course much of them are kurd terrorists. Other than that there is no fight between in people.

We have 15 million Kurd in Turkey. Half of them in the west and actually %80 of them doesn' t know even Kurdish because don't need and they have VERY VERY GOOD LIFE. But others in the east are saying east is our. BUT here is the danger for Turkey. Their population booming beacuse they are undeveloped people. They are birthing like shitting. They have this purpose because of PKK. ''If we will not beat you with weapon, we will occupy your cities with population'' their motto something like this.
And the saddest part our goverment looking that population. They have mostly 3-4 wife and 30 kids. Not kidding.
And they are spreading like a cancer in Turkey. If their population will grow like this they will say Turkey is actually OURS This is the Kurd problem in Turkey. This grup claim Kurdistan where ever they live.
Other stories different than just bullshit.

Maybe half of Turkey accepting Erdogan but no one accepting this Kurdish occupation.
But Erdoğan need Kurds for the PRESIDENTIAL SYSTEM. If Erdoğan will be president, Kurds will get autonomy in 10 years. That' s only way for the Kurds. Actually Erdoğan don' t interesting of anyone, he is not even Turk. He just looking his power.

 

[Economic superpower]

Kurds need their own country.

 

[AnABCD?]

Kurds are being used by NATO at the moment but will be quickly abandoned once ISIS is dealt with because of Turkey's influence. Until Turkey is on board with a Kurdish nation (hell will freeze over first), it won't happen.

 

[Steve781]

Can a landlocked country really be truly independent?

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

The most the Kurds will get is Northern Iraq and Northern Syria. That's if they agree to destroy PKK. Anymore and we (USA and Western Gov.) will give them a proper Demoncracy, and teach Turkey how to make a valley out of mountains.

 

[Steve781]

The most the Kurds will get is Northern Iraq and Northern Syria. That's if they agree to destroy PKK. Anymore and we (USA and Western Gov.) will give them a proper Demoncracy, and teach Turkey how to make a valley out of mountains.

Iraqi Kurds are generally moderate and sensible. But that's besides the point. You can't just say "you Kurds here deserve a state but you over there don't". You have to be consistent.

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

Iraqi Kurds are generally moderate and sensible. But that's besides the point. You can't just say "you Kurds here deserve a state but you over there don't". You have to be consistent.

Did you miss the little mountain of Sarcastic smiley's that I made?! That took a lot of time to make.

On a serious note, Kurds will only have autonomy in Syria and Iraq. Consistency is for Rainbows and Unicorns that poop Ice Cream.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

On a serious note, Kurds will only have autonomy in Syria and Iraq. Consistency is for Rainbows and Unicorns that poop Ice Cream.

Kurds won't see it that way. They'll think that since the West granted them self rule in Iraq and Syria, there is no reason for them not to have self-rule in all Kurdish regions.

Now that's a big can of worms to open.

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

Kurds won't see it that way. They'll think that since the West granted them self rule in Iraq and Syria, there is no reason for them not to have self-rule in all Kurdish regions.

Now that's a big can of worms to open.

Only because of Daesh, they simply took advantage of a bad situation and we simply let it happen. The big can of worms is that now they have something, and they have entered the Big Boys play ground with the status of Pawn, actually possibly not even that, Experimental Status.

A stable Turkey including Kurdish regions is more beneficial than a divided one. Maybe when or if you become a Global power you can make the rules, until then continue playing in the SCS sandbox and Silk Road, Bishop.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Maybe when or if you become a Global power you can make the rules, until then continue playing in the SCS sandbox and Silk Road, Bishop.

That won't be for a long while yet.

Relax though, we have no designs on supporting Kurds against your Turkey.

It's the Western powers who are supporting the Kurd's self-rule in the Middle East (a trend that started a while back), not that I expect someone from Turkey to criticize them.