The so-called Quad is dead

[Titanium100]

The OIC could unilaterally declare India terrorist state and sanction it if Pakistan invests in the right amount of lobbies thru the organistation this is not a far fatched outcome. The Americans pay for it down the road

 

[Battlion25]

Pakistan could throw a huge banana trip into this by damaging India's image in the OIC states to a point of no return by releasing alot of humantarian related issues to the point where they will be forced to sanction India and severe ties and most of these OIC states are US allies putting pressure on them to break away from this policy and adopt isolating India policies not only weakening Quad but making it entirely irrelevant and counter-productive to massive proportions..

The Goal of Pakistan is to isolate India from this cold war 2.0 because it doesn't want to see a terrorist state on it's borders cozying up with anyone and India has to remain put in it's region not provoking China or Pakistan or anyone in that matter taking India out of this occasion is key. The US should not talk to India without informing Pakistan or consulting with them and having a terrorist elements in any form of alliance will make it undesireable for Pakistan and for the greater region

 

[SIPRA]

In the current global geopolitical alignments, India has an importance, which cannot be denied. As for OIC, it simply doesn't exist anywhere, except on papers.

 

[MH.Yang]

The USA just doesn't want to provide SSBN to India&Japan.
Japan's desire is actually to get rid of its colonial status, so Japan needs to weaken China&USA at the same time, not just China. And India in the future does have the potential to challenge the USA.
Therefore, the USA does not want these two countries to join AUKUS.

 

[cloud4000]

Must be a slow news day if people are posting this nonsense.

 

[Battlion25]

In the current global geopolitical alignments, India has an importance, which cannot be denied. As for OIC, it simply doesn't exist anywhere, except on papers.

On paper until Pakistan wants it otherwise and makes it functional for it's own politcal gain reasons. Besides the pressure is already working because the Quad is declared non-military allaince meaning the US realizes the consequences this could have instead it has made the AUKUS a military alliance getting rid of Japan and India

 

[SIPRA]

The OIC could unilaterally declare it terrorist state and sanction it if Pakistan invests in the right amount of lobbies thru the organistation this is not a far fatched outcome. The Americans should lose India or pay dearly for it down the road

OIC is nothing more than: "Oh I see".

 

[Battlion25]

OIC is nothing more than: "Oh I see".

I know that it is only on paper not until Pakistan needs to use that political card for it's nefarious reasons it is there to be used for these who desire it at the right moment and can be made functional so it is not entirely as you see it. The world is driven by interests not bogus institiutions

 

[MH.Yang]

On paper until Pakistan wants it otherwise and makes it functional for it's own politcal gain reasons. Besides the pressure is already working because the Quad is declared non-military allaince meaning the US realizes the consequences this could have instead it has made the AUKUS a military alliance getting rid of Japan and India

It's just that India wants China to believe that QUAD is not a military alliance, but China will have its own judgment.
And QUAD didn't die.

 

[SIPRA]

On paper until Pakistan wants it otherwise and makes it functional for it's own politcal gain reasons. Besides the pressure is already working because the Quad is non-military allaince meaning the US realizes the consequences this could have instead it has made the AUKUS a military alliance getting rid of Japan and India

Pakistan, or for that matter, any single or few Muslim countries cannot make OIC effective, unless the major conflicting interests of main Muslim countries don't get resolved, which is not possible, at least, at the moment.

QUAD has not become totally insignificant. It has it's importance, though at a lower level than AUKUS. QUAD can only become irrelevant, if India resolves it's dispute with China, in some amicable manner.

 

[Titanium100]

It's just that India wants China to believe that QUAD is not a military alliance, but China will have its own judgment.
And QUAD didn't die.

This is true somewhat but making a military Quad to contain China is provocative for the Chinese side and find this sort of behaviour out of line but Including India is where it hits against a major wall.

Pakistan, or for that matter, any single or few Muslim countries cannot make OIC effective, unless the major conflicting interests of main Muslim countries don't get resolved, which is not possible, at least, at the moment.

QUAD has not become totally insignificant. It has it's importance, though at a lower level than AUKUS. QUAD can only become irrelevant, if India resolves it's dispute with China, in some amicable manner.

It the right lobbies applied and if Pakistan wants it than it can use that card quite easily not an issue here at all just spamming India news and causing an uproar shouldn't be an issue really.

QUAD has not become totally insignificant. It has it's importance, though at a lower level than AUKUS. QUAD can only become irrelevant, if India resolves it's dispute with China, in some amicable manner.

I don't think that will be resolved due to the territorial issues but eliminating India from the Quad or downgrading it to non-military alliance is key like Modi claimed recently but either way nobody should be sleeping with India atleast not on Pakistan (Dhul Qarnayn) watch

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[mudas777]

In the current global geopolitical alignments, India has an importance, which cannot be denied. As for OIC, it simply doesn't exist anywhere, except on papers.

Less not kid ourselves India in QUAD is a reality and we need to improve our own economy and the military strength. Until and unless India is taught a lesson on the field without Chinese participation this menace is only going to grow and US is only going to pump up India more.
Our major problem is our politicians/leadership, media, economy and needs some tweaking/inductions in our forces. We need to send few bus loads of politicians and journalists to land of Taliban with NOC for cleansing and spiritual experience and never to return.
OIC should have been disbanded long time ago along side with the Western mouth piece UN. When OIC Arab members can ditch there own Palestinian cousins please don't have any high hopes. When major Arab countries are saying Kashmir is internal matter of India what will take some brothers here to open their eyes.

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

To be used then discarded.

Disposable tissues and nations.

It is always related to TRUST.

The truth is out there.

The 5 eyes Anglo-Saxon Alliance don't trust outsiders including France, Japan, India.

The truth hurts.

 

[Stryker1982]

Pakistan could throw a huge banana trip into this by damaging India's image in the OIC states to a point of no return by releasing alot of humantarian related issues to the point where they will be forced to sanction India and severe ties and most of these OIC states are US allies putting pressure on them to break away from this policy and adopt isolating India policies not only weakening Quad but making it entirely irrelevant and counter-productive to massive proportions..

The Goal of Pakistan is to isolate India from this cold war 2.0 because it doesn't want to see a terrorist state on it's borders cozying up with anyone and India has to remain put in it's region not provoking China or Pakistan or anyone in that matter taking India out of this occasion is key. The US should not talk to India without informing Pakistan or consulting with them and having a terrorist elements in any form of alliance will make it undesireable for Pakistan and for the greater region

I don't think this will work, the Americans have been getting very close to the Indians and theirs no sign that they will not get even closer militarily, probably so that they can use them as a shield against China to protect themselves and preoccupy the Chinese military. This is the future direction they are going and they will probably drop their relations or reduce their relations with Pakistan as a result. They want millions of Indians to die in order to protect themselves like a body shield. They did this with Western Europe against the Soviets as well.

 

[Battlion25]

I don't think this will work, the Americans have been getting very close to the Indians and theirs no sign that they will not get even closer militarily, probably so that they can use them as a shield against China to protect themselves and preoccupy the Chinese military. This is the future direction they are going and they will probably drop their relations or reduce their relations with Pakistan as a result. They want millions of Indians to die in order to protect themselves like a body shield. They did this with Western Europe against the Soviets as well.

They didn't allow them into AUKUS and QUAD is not a military alliance. I believe they will try to use them as shield but they will not attempt to break neutrality in the Pakistan-India scenario. This will weaken them elsewhere much more critical if this were to occur.

India will unraval their allies elsewhere hence the appraoch will be neutrality and in return for Pakistan to stay neutral between China-US this is there defined goal but things could always change in the near future it doesn't mean tho they won't keep good relations with India and the same with Pak-sino relations which is much closer because it is regional and Pak-Sino are openly allied against India while the US is from half a world away. Pak-Sino ganging on India is regional issues and matters which means the US is interested in Taiwan, South Korea, SCS and Australia