The Second Indo-Chinese War (2013-2015)

[Chinese-Dragon]

there must not be war between china and India. if it occurs it will have devastating on both nations. both nations can not risk their economies. India should do its best to its economic and military might. when India will rise after 25 or 30 years later as economic superpower we will have greater impact on world politics. then we can solve Tibet problem as we want due to our enormous economic weight. our status as economic superpower will allow us to built massive and highly advanced army, air force,navy and nuclear missile forces. thus due to our massive military and economic might china will have to solve Tibet problem through diplomacy. if we want solve Tibet problem we have to be very mighty.

You're talking about becoming a "superpower"? When will this happen?

Here is the GDP data and forecasts.

List of countries by future GDP (nominal) estimates - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

China right now is the 2nd largest economy, yet we are NOT a superpower at all.

So how can India become one?

 

[IND151]

@ Chinese dragon
you are right that India is not in top ten economies. but it is one of the world's largest market. us wants big share in this market. do you think US will remain silent if china attacks this market? NO! its true that India has always aligned itself with Russia. but it does not mean that us will neglect increasing Chinese influence in south Asia. so in INDO Chinese war USA will sent tonnes of weapons and trillions of $ to India. with this aid Indian army will ensure stalemate in war.
further more USA will impose sanctions on china.

 

[girishktyagi]

Nukes? Why use nukes?

I can tell you that if India or China ever use nukes it will BE INDA FIRST using it. We will of course lunch counter attack!

You must read more of other news and other countries foreign policies (and not just what PLA want to you read).

India has "no first use" policy. And we do obey our policies.

Other other hand, there was a controversy recently on PLA's statement on change of "on first use policy". I believe that China will also never use it first, but point to be noted that we don't even have controversies in India on this matter where as you guys does.

 

[faithfulguy]

You're talking about becoming a "superpower"? When will this happen?

Here is the GDP data and forecasts.

List of countries by future GDP (nominal) estimates - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

China right now is the 2nd largest economy, yet we are NOT a superpower at all.

So how can India become one?

Because this guy say so??????

At least in this forum, more Indians want their country to be superpower than Chinese. But their projection is way into the future, not in the next 5-10 years. They also assume that because of their lack of population control, it benefit India vs China. Is China being foolish for control the population? Its too early to tell.

The problem with projection far into the future is that its unreliable. But it actually lift up the spirits of people who are in dispair. So I do not want to kick people who are already down.

 

[faithfulguy]

@ Chinese dragon
you are right that India is not in top ten economies. but it is worlds second largest market. us wants big share in this market. do you think US will remain silent if china attacks this market? NO! its true that India has always aligned itself with Russia. but it does not mean that us will neglect increasing Chinese influence in south Asia. so in INDO Chinese war USA will sent tonnes of weapons and trillions of $ to India. with this aid Indian army will ensure stalemate in war.
further more USA will impose sanctions on china.

The two largest economy are US and China. I'm not even sure if India is one of the top 10 market out there. Also, the Indian economy is more isolated compare to other Asian economy. I do not think US economy, except for IT outsourcing, would be affected much. Look up the trade volume between US and India and that will show insignificant it is. If you want India to be more important to the US, buy more US weapons. That is the only way.

 

[girishktyagi]

Wrong.

This false narrative has been so deeply ingrained in the Indian psyche. Here are the facts:

1959: India hosts the Tibetan government in exile, immediately after they failed to overthrow the Chinese government. India hosted our largest separatist group, all while singing the false song of "Hindi Chini bhai bhai".

1962: As if that was not bad enough, in this year came Nehru's forward policy, which led to the Sino-Indian war. After this, China and Pakistan became much closer, due to having a mutual enemy.

It was INDIA who backstabbed China, by hosting our largest separatist group on their soil, even after coming up with that ridiculous LIE, of "Hindi Chini bhai bhai".



India already made its choice. The result is that both of India's largest neighbours (China+Pakistan) are now rivals.

Marriage of China Pakistan will not last as Pakistan just had a divorce from US after looting them for money and weapons. I believe that Chinese are intelligent enough to divorce Pakistan before it play its dirty game of begging and blackmailing.

If you want to avoid terror attack in Beijing, then don't support Pakistan. Choice is yours. Safety first.

 

[kingdurgaking]

@ Chinese dragon
you are right that India is not in top ten economies. but it is worlds second largest market. us wants big share in this market. do you think US will remain silent if china attacks this market? NO! its true that India has always aligned itself with Russia. but it does not mean that us will neglect increasing Chinese influence in south Asia. so in INDO Chinese war USA will sent tonnes of weapons and trillions of $ to India. with this aid Indian army will ensure stalemate in war.
further more USA will impose sanctions on china.

Your facts?? India doesnt need any one's help as of now.. The investment we have made so far is enough for 2 decades to defend China(Weapons + infra).. We just have to make sure our investment is yielding fruits..
China is no god to defeat India completely.. and so is India..

sino-indo war will be just border skirmishes .. nothing more than that..

 

[faithfulguy]

These are the 10 largest trading partner of US. India is not among them.

Country Exports Imports Total Trade[2]
Canada 204.7 224.9 429.6
China 69.6 296.4 366.0
Mexico 129.0 176.5 305.5
Japan 51.2 95.9 147.1
Germany 43.3 71.3 114.6
United Kingdom 45.7 47.5 93.2
South Korea 28.6 39.2 67.9
France 26.5 34.0 60.6
Netherlands 32.3 16.1 48.4
Taiwan 18.4 28.4 46.8

 

[faithfulguy]

Marriage of China Pakistan will not last as Pakistan just had a divorce from US after looting them for money and weapons. I believe that Chinese are intelligent enough to divorce Pakistan before it play its dirty game of begging and blackmailing.

If you want to avoid terror attack in Beijing, then don't support Pakistan. Choice is yours. Safety first.

The terrorist would not attack China. If China would roll a tank over protestors and student, imaging what they would do to terrorists...

 

[kingdurgaking]

These are the 10 largest trading partner of US. India is not among them.

Country Exports Imports Total Trade[2]
Canada 204.7 224.9 429.6
China 69.6 296.4 366.0
Mexico 129.0 176.5 305.5
Japan 51.2 95.9 147.1
Germany 43.3 71.3 114.6
United Kingdom 45.7 47.5 93.2
South Korea 28.6 39.2 67.9
France 26.5 34.0 60.6
Netherlands 32.3 16.1 48.4
Taiwan 18.4 28.4 46.8

Fine.. India has got a powerful lobby.. do you want to undermine that?

 

[Punjabbi Munda]

You're talking about becoming a "superpower"? When will this happen?

Here is the GDP data and forecasts.

List of countries by future GDP (nominal) estimates - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

China right now is the 2nd largest economy, yet we are NOT a superpower at all.

So how can India become one?

Why didn't you provide PPP terms?
Which actually represents the purchasing power and a better way to calculate strength?
India is 4th in it.

 

[kingdurgaking]

The terrorist would not attack China. If China would roll a tank over protestors and student, imaging what they would do to terrorists...

very funny man.. terrorist dont come out in street with stickers on there forehead stating i am a terrorist.. Terrorist just execute the task.. they are not worried about there life..

 

[IND151]

@ faithful guy
read 6th sentence in post no 483 carefully.
though we are not ten top economies we have billions of buyers. so us will not neglect us. we provide them cheap BPO and IT services.

 

[faithfulguy]

Your facts?? India doesnt need any one's help as of now.. The investment we have made so far is enough for 2 decades to defend China(Weapons + infra).. We just have to make sure our investment is yielding fruits..
China is no god to defeat India completely.. and so is India..

sino-indo war will be just border skirmishes .. nothing more than that..

Totally disagree. The disparity of defence capability between China and India is widen with time, not shrinking. The only way for India to secure itself in the future is by join the US camp. Otherwise, according to Lee Kuan Yow(Former PM of Singapore) All the Asian countries combined (Including India) would not be capable of confronting China in the future. He is known as the "wise man of Asia". Please take heed to his advise.

 

[Jackdaws]

I doubt the Chinese are brave enough to start a war in 2013. Or ever.