The revival and renaissance of Hindutva in India...create a bogeyman

[N.Siddiqui]

There is a renaissance of Hinduism(Hindutva) in India/Hindustan....the reason Pulwama, Uri, Pathankot, earlier Mumbai, Train bomb blasts, Samjhauta express(Pakistani and Indians killed)... earlier Hindus were appalled at the Muslim appeasement done by secular Congress and other smaller parties.


So for the revival of RSS extremism(people moving away from left to right wing parties) all the mentioned incidences written above was necessary. The more divisive politics(missed the Ram mandir/Babri issue) of VHP, Bajrang dal is to be successful, the more hatred for Pakistan and Muslims too is necessary, why this shift in India in political culture...the reason above mentioned incidences are needed, they divide the nation and even educated secular people starts supporting RSS and VHP type extremist parties, BJP is a political wing with lots of RSS cadres like Modi, Yogi, Nitin Gadkari and others....

A bigger common enemy, a perceived danger like Pakistan/Muslim invading India/Muslim outnumbering Hindus in India is/was needed to start the Hinduism renaissance and revision and make it relevant, Pakistan is the perfect common denominator here and fits in almost at many places...Blame it on Pakistan and stay relevant.

 

[mastaan]

There is a renaissance of Hinduism(Hindutva) in India/Hindustan....the reason Pulwama, Uri, Pathankot, earlier Mumbai, Train bomb blasts, Samjhauta express(Pakistani and Indians killed)... earlier Hindus were appalled at the Muslim appeasement done by secular Congress and other smaller parties.


So for the revival of RSS extremism(people moving away from left to right wing parties) all the mentioned incidences written above is necessary. The more divisive politics(missed the Ram mandir/Babri issue) of VHP, Bajrang dal is to be successful, the more hatred for Pakistan and Muslims too is necessary, why this shift in India in political culture...the reason above mentioned incidences are needed, they divide the nation and even educated secular people starts supporting RSS and VHP type extremist parties, BJP is a political wing with lots of RSS cadres like Yogi, Nitin Gadkari and others....

A bigger common enemy, a perceived danger like Pakistan/Muslim invading India/Muslim outnumbering Hindus in India is/was needed to start the Hinduism renaissance and revision and make it relevant, Pakistan is the perfect common denominator here and fits in almost at many places...Blame it on Pakistan and stay relevant.

I don't know if it was necessary or not - but it certainly has been used to create that emotion. I think a big part of what you are saying is happening in term of finding a common enemy and using that as an election plank and they seem to be winning with that formula as well. I just hope that opposition has enough sets to keep up a true opposition while they find an alternative to the PM candidate.

A big example of this is today in Indian media a pakistani post and sushma swaraj's twitter troll match is in front page but beating of a poor family by right wingers, in gurgaon is either not carried or carried in 'cities' area in two of the biggest new channels. As an Indian, I don't like that.

 

[M.Bison]

There is a renaissance of Hinduism(Hindutva) in India/Hindustan....the reason Pulwama, Uri, Pathankot, earlier Mumbai, Train bomb blasts, Samjhauta express(Pakistani and Indians killed)... earlier Hindus were appalled at the Muslim appeasement done by secular Congress and other smaller parties.


So for the revival of RSS extremism(people moving away from left to right wing parties) all the mentioned incidences written above is necessary. The more divisive politics(missed the Ram mandir/Babri issue) of VHP, Bajrang dal is to be successful, the more hatred for Pakistan and Muslims too is necessary, why this shift in India in political culture...the reason above mentioned incidences are needed, they divide the nation and even educated secular people starts supporting RSS and VHP type extremist parties, BJP is a political wing with lots of RSS cadres like Modi, Yogi, Nitin Gadkari and others....

A bigger common enemy, a perceived danger like Pakistan/Muslim invading India/Muslim outnumbering Hindus in India is/was needed to start the Hinduism renaissance and revision and make it relevant, Pakistan is the perfect common denominator here and fits in almost at many places...Blame it on Pakistan and stay relevant.

How do you think Pakistan has reacted in the recent times?

I believe Pakistan has played the game perfectly in retaliation. The fact that Pakistan was able to capture abhinandan and then return him was a good move. Also calls for peace were also a good tactic to try and change the hearts and minds of "sane" people within India. Issue is that the Indian media is controlled by the hindu right. Pakistan should use this momentum and create a counter narrative for the world. Pakistan needs to show the world Indian hindu's true face.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

I don't know if it was necessary or not - but it certainly has been used to create that emotion. I think a big part of what you are saying is happening in term of finding a common enemy and using that as an election plank and they seem to be winning with that formula as well. I just hope that opposition has enough sets to keep up a true opposition while they find an alternative to the PM candidate.

A big example of this is today in Indian media a pakistani post and sushma swaraj's twitter troll match is in front page but beating of a poor family by right wingers, in gurgaon is either not carried or carried in 'cities' area in two of the biggest new channels. As an Indian, I don't like that.

Yes right, was thinking how come RSS which was present as early as in 1920's and was politically irrelevant, and at the fringe suddenly started to take the mainstream politics and becomes a Kingmaker. And which was earlier hated and was like a pariah in most of educated India.

Same is true of the extremist parties like VHP, Bajrang Dal and many Sena's...you need a complete shift of ideas/perceptions/game plan for people to make a shift and a change. There is a sea change in India regarding left and rightist politics...this is not possible without creating the required HATE.

Now everything abhorred and cursed in India earlier has turned into winning the electorates...earlier people doing divisive politics of cow and caste, hatred for Muslims would have been sidelined...now they are getting the center stage in India. Huge change of thinking...

 

[mastaan]

Yes right, was thinking how come RSS which was present as early as in 1920's and was politically irrelevant, and at the fringe suddenly started to take the mainstream politics and becomes a Kingpin. And which was earlier hated and was like a pariah in most of educated India.

Same is true of the extremist parties like VHP, Bajrang Dal and many Sena's...you need a complete shift of ideas/perceptions/game plan for people to make a shift and a change. There is a sea change in India regarding left and rightist politics...this is not possible without creating the required HATE.

Now everything abhorred and cursed in India earlier has turned into winning the electorates...earlier people doing divisive politics of cow and caste, hatred for Muslims would have been sidelined...now they are getting the center stage in India. Huge change of thinking...

There is a famous saying - Silent Majority is equally culpable... The last few weeks, that culpability has systematically increased.

That's why, I hope the balance stays with a strong opposition; as defeating Modi in this election is not gonna work.

The basic Tehzib is getting lost - right or left; India preferred a certain charm and it is getting lost and that is the irony.. There is no shame in being nationalistic, i believe that.. but jingoism blurrs boundaries and too many jingoists makes it worse.

I do believe however, that Indian public love affairs are short lived.. Indira Gandhi, Atal Bihari Vajpayee, Rajiv Gandhi - All strong leaders that could carry elections on their back have lost election after 1 or 2 elections.. the anti-incumbency is a reality in India. So, let's see what lies ahead.. Interesting days ahead for subcontient indeed.

 

[Mugwop]

Revival?

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Revenge for embarrassment by Pakistan will be carried out on the easy target: Indian Muslims.

 

[Yankee-stani]

Revenge for embarrassment by Pakistan will be carried out on the easy target: Indian Muslims.

Those dudes are Arab *** k...sers anyways

I read and watch Indian media all day and it always about the butthurt of Pakistan existing sigh

 

[M.Bison]

Those dudes are Arab *** k...sers anyways

I read and watch Indian media all day and it always about the butthurt of Pakistan existing sigh

Yeah, that is true but this is our chance to try change the world narrative. Indians are going down a very nasty path. Their whole political system is pakistan centric. I don't know how they will ever become supa powa. Pakistan can actually disassociate it self from Indians and create a new identity on the world stage. Already modi's saffron terrorism has been exposed and it will only play in Pakistan's hand. Unfortunately, we are divided and only time will tell if we can become successful. The war for hearts and minds has only begun.

 

[Yankee-stani]

Yeah, that is true but this is our chance to try change the world narrative. Indians are going down a very nasty path. Their whole political system is pakistan centric. I don't know how they will ever become supa powa. Pakistan can actually disassociate it self from Indians and create a new identity on the world stage. Already modi's saffron terrorism has been exposed and it will only play in Pakistan's hand. Unfortunately, we are divided and only time will tell if we can become successful. The war for hearts and minds has only begun.

I mean Yankee has issues with Mexico its neighbor yet you dont see them blasting them like "Supa powa" India on Pakistan, Pakistan is like 10x smaller in population and size yet India seems to be focused on Pakistan than on the other billion plus CHINA

 

[M.Bison]

I mean Yankee has issues with Mexico its neighbor yet you dont see them blasting them like "Supa powa" India on Pakistan, Pakistan is like 10x smaller in population and size yet India seems to be focused on Pakistan than on the other billion plus CHINA

Yeah that's true. But America has weak neighbors and always has had them. It is better for India that India focuses on Pakistan because it will limit itself.

 

[KhalaiMakhlooq]

There is a renaissance of Hinduism(Hindutva) in India/Hindustan....the reason Pulwama, Uri, Pathankot, earlier Mumbai, Train bomb blasts, Samjhauta express(Pakistani and Indians killed)... earlier Hindus were appalled at the Muslim appeasement done by secular Congress and other smaller parties.

I don't think this is the reason. If you look at the world around you, everyone is internationalised to the extent it feels like global village. And this is the way it is heading, in the future there will be no such thing as nationality or countrymen. And that is a good thing. No more notions of ideological patrimony.

Now, India has missed out on the nation process, ever confused and ever insecure about not only who they are but to a greater extent what they are. They are having a temporary tantrum to the extent they need to shout about nation and national supremacy - an overt reflection of their own fragmented natures.

The positive side is that this is part of the required process they need to undergo to expel and offload these poisonous feelings and ideas of statehood and nationhood and move towards the realisation of a common single human race.

Just like when the human body is fighting an infection, it will expel the pathogens to the surface, so you can see it, while it goes through healing.

 

[AfrazulMandal]

How do you think Pakistan has reacted in the recent times?

I believe Pakistan has played the game perfectly in retaliation. The fact that Pakistan was able to capture abhinandan and then return him was a good move. Also calls for peace were also a good tactic to try and change the hearts and minds of "sane" people within India. Issue is that the Indian media is controlled by the hindu right. Pakistan should use this momentum and create a counter narrative for the world. Pakistan needs to show the world Indian hindu's true face.

While I appreciate your intentions, here are some facts.
* No country even condemned India's actions, let alone sanction us
* For one captured Abhinandan, India called the nuke bluff and showed intent
* The world put pressure on Pakistan and it responded by banning organizations remotely involved in so called terrorism.
* There are no sane people here. There are practicing or cultural Hindus/Sikhs and other minorities including ex hindus. Even liberal hindus will always dislike you. The only difference is the liberal hindu will want us to behave like them to be accepted as Indians. While Hindus will just want us to become hindu to be accepted as Indians .not much of a difference.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

While I appreciate your intentions, here are some facts.
* No country even condemned India's actions, let alone sanction us
* For one captured Abhinandan, India called the nuke bluff and showed intent
* The world put pressure on Pakistan and it responded by banning organizations remotely involved in so called terrorism.
* There are no sane people here. There are practicing or cultural Hindus/Sikhs and other minorities including ex hindus. Even liberal hindus will always dislike you. The only difference is the liberal hindu will want us to behave like them to be accepted as Indians. While Hindus will just want us to become hindu to be accepted as Indians .not much of a difference.

India called nothing it could not dare to hit the target which was In front of it a low hanging fruit. The deterrent works.

 

[M.Bison]

While I appreciate your intentions, here are some facts.
* No country even condemned India's actions, let alone sanction us
* For one captured Abhinandan, India called the nuke bluff and showed intent
* The world put pressure on Pakistan and it responded by banning organizations remotely involved in so called terrorism.
* There are no sane people here. There are practicing or cultural Hindus/Sikhs and other minorities including ex hindus. Even liberal hindus will always dislike you. The only difference is the liberal hindu will want us to behave like them to be accepted as Indians. While Hindus will just want us to become hindu to be accepted as Indians .not much of a difference.

I'm surprised that you think that Abhinandan's capture has won India some sort victory. I mean only Indians can say things like this.

Abhinandans capture actually exposed Indian air force as a bullsh!T power. The strikes in Balakot have been proven as a fantasy. Intent needs capability and India has failed miserably. Pakistan is a responsible nuclear state and there is no bluff. Don't mistaken its peaceful nature as weakness.

What Pakistan has said it will do it has done. In broad day light we attacked your army posts and then downed two jets. All you have to show for it is a piece of scrap metal. We have a jet and a pilot. No matter how hard you try to spin the facts it will not change this is not Bollywood my friend. This is real life and you guys will get hurt.

As far as the banned organizations go... I think that was planned months ago. So What pressure has India exerted on us?

I did not say that I want hindus or Sikhs or Indians muslims to accept us. I want Pakistan's intelligence to use modi's stupidity against them. I want pakistan to expose hindus and divide Indian opinion. I could care less if they accept us or not. We have nothing in common with Hindus. We don't want to be like them.