The Pothohar Plateau

[ghoul]

no they dont, those areas where hinko is spoken were so isolated untill 60s that they didnt know about anything some 100 miles away from them. My father told me they used to walk 2 days to get a bus for Pindi, I know people in my father's village would refer to their language as punjabi but when they met someone they didnt know and who spoke hindko they will refer to him as "addi boli bolna" meaning he spoke our language, so they considered it different than punjabi but didnt know what to call it.

One thing that I found common among Hinko speakers is they all eat black halwa (some call it sabooni halwa) and drink daal with it, they eat halwa till they cant eat anymore then they drink a bowl of daal to make more appetite for halwa. they f'ing eat it so much that some people died from over eating.

Lol. And never heard of the word "addi" before. You mean "saadi"? And I think you might speak a distinct dialect called "awankari" which associated with awans in mianwali and talagang. It is said to be highly hindko sounding. In Mianwali, I heard they call awans and awankari dialect "uttradi", which means "hill language" and "hill people". Are you an awan?

Not too bad then again my family speaks kitchri though i dont understand some words (thats coz I have bad vocabulary )

Never heard of that word before. Is it a dialect? I find all the hindko, seraiki dialects so intersting.

 

[xyxmt]

Lol. And never heard of the word "addi" before. You mean "saadi"? And I think you might speak a distinct dialect called "awankari" which associated with awans in mianwali and talagang. It is said to be highly hindko sounding. In Mianwali, I heard they call awans and awankari dialect "uttradi", which means "hill language" and "hill people". Are you an awan?



Never heard of that word before. Is it a dialect? I find all the hindko, seraiki dialects so intersting.

I thoughts you said it same as punjabi lol yes in punjabi it would be saddi
and yes I am an Awan form Awan land

 

[Erhabi]

I thoughts you said it same as punjabi lol yes in punjabi it would be saddi
and yes I am an Awan form Awan land

What's Awan land? I am an Awan too but never been to Pakistan so i m just really curious to know about them..btw are they nice people or what? one friend told me that there is a place called Awan pati too

 

[Kabira]

I thoughts you said it same as punjabi lol yes in punjabi it would be saddi
and yes I am an Awan form Awan land

Seem like in Kharian tehsil awan biraderi is 2nd biggest after after jatts. More villages then even gujjars. I didn't knew they were awans before because people call them just "Maliks". Villages names are Malki, Malka, Malik Pur, Pindi Awan, Bangial etc are awan majority villages.

 

[Kambojaric]

Last I checked you are the ones who kill your daughters and then import wives from Behar like I said to arya desa you guys are bhaiya hybrids.

I just came back from uni and there is a sikh in my class at first I thought he was a chura because he was so dark and his first name is John but then today he was wearing that churi you guys wear, imagine my shock to discover he was an Indian Sikh.

"Pegged at more than 10 lakh in a city of about 50 lakh people, there is one migrant from UP or Bihar for every five Punjabi. ...

Like Ranjit Kumar, who calls himself Ranjit Singh these days, nearly 11% of people from Bihar and UP use Punjabi surnames. The 25-year-old, who came from Bihar to Sainian Bahurian village in Gurdaspur district to work in the farm of Mann Singh, is as much Punjabi as anybody around him.

Sukhram, too, is no exception. He came to Sunam in Sangrur from Purnea in Bihar, some 15 years ago to work for Mohinderpal Singh Dhindsa.

Now, with a beard and kara on his wrist, he is indistinguishable from the people around him in this nondescript town."

Punjab now a land of Bihari 'sardars' - The Times of India

 

[Kabira]

"Pegged at more than 10 lakh in a city of about 50 lakh people, there is one migrant from UP or Bihar for every five Punjabi. ...

Like Ranjit Kumar, who calls himself Ranjit Singh these days, nearly 11% of people from Bihar and UP use Punjabi surnames. The 25-year-old, who came from Bihar to Sainian Bahurian village in Gurdaspur district to work in the farm of Mann Singh, is as much Punjabi as anybody around him.

Remember that article is 7 years old, things are lot worse right now. Thats why i advice @jatt+gutts to save all the videos of jatts with Pakistani roots in India.

 

[xyxmt]

Seem like in Kharian tehsil awan biraderi is 2nd biggest after after jatts. More villages then even gujjars. I didn't knew they were awans before because people call them just "Maliks". Villages names are Malki, Malka, Malik Pur, Pindi Awan, Bangial etc are awan majority villages.

as per Wiki:
It is asserted that Qutb Shah and six of his sons accompanied and assisted Mahmud in his early eleventh century conquests of what today forms parts of Afghanistan, Pakistan and Northern India. It is claimed that in recognition of their services and valour, Mahmud bestowed upon Qutb Shah Awan and his sons (who, according to tribal traditions, settled primarily in the Salt Range) the title of Awan, meaning "helper".[citation needed]

Tribal history holds that Qutb Shah and his sons married local women who converted to Islam from Hinduism. Qutb Shah’s sons are said to have settled in different regions of the Punjab and to a lesser extent, what now constitutes parts of Khyber Pukhtunkhwa; Gauhar Shah or Gorrara, settled near Sakesar, Kalan Shah or Kalgan, settled in Kalabagh, Muzammil Shah colonized the hills close to the Indus, Mohammad Shah (Elder son of Qutab Shah) or Khokhar,[4] settled by the Chenab, and Turi Shah ‏and Jhajh Shah settled in Tirah the descendants of Turi or Tori and Jhajh are also known as Syeds of Tirah.[citation needed] Their descendants not only came to heavily populate these regions, but a number of Awan sub-clans that trace their origins to these six individuals, give their names to various localities such as Golera in Rawalpindi,Malpur in Islamabad, Khewra in Jhelum, Bajara in Sialkot, Jand in Attock, and Dhudial in Chakwal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed

 

[xyxmt]

What's Awan land? I am an Awan too but never been to Pakistan so i m just really curious to know about them..btw are they nice people or what? one friend told me that there is a place called Awan pati too

Kalabagh, attock, talagang, sakesar is where almost everyone is Awan. They are like any Pakistani good and bad but by profession they are farmer or soldiers, open minded and woman education is very common. I know in my father's village near Talagang there were more school going girls than boys. In our area Awan is also synonym with land owner. Big land owners usually use the Sir name Malak commonly known as malik. Malik will usually lease his land to harris who will cultivate different corps on it and every corp is divided as 1/3rd to Malik and 2/3 to Harri so its a very just system no abuse of harris like other places. Low crime areas because chances are every home have one of more in service or retired soldiers and the woman are beautiful

 

[Kabira]

I wonder if there is any link between malik/malak of pashtuns and awans?...Chief of clan is called malik/malak among pashtuns while in case of awans, it seems, is a general title like khan.

I know Malik pashtuns from KPK, native speakers of Hindko. I though they were awans and fake pathans. But now its clear many pashtuns also have malik title. Anyway their hindko is nothing like hindko songs or dramas. The reason is hindko dramas/songs use lots of urdu/persian/arabic words like standard Majhi punjabi of central punjab.

Otherwise proper hindko is lot more harder to understand for someone like me at first.

 

[PakhtunGuy]

are you for real dude.. your side Punjabi are shorter darker and with less refined features with wide noses .. as you yourself showed in your video. maybe that is definition of good looks in your Pakistan.. lol anyways what could be the reason you guys look so different.. is it because you mingled with bhaiyas.

they don't look Pakistani at all

I don't understand.

These people in your video look like casual black Indians.

 

[jatt+gutts]

Tuchtoon boi u high on naswar or what.

Remember that article is 7 years old, things are lot worse right now. Thats why i advice @jatt+gutts to save all the videos of jatts with Pakistani roots in India.

There been people coming to Punjab for work. They go back in off season.

 

[PakhtunGuy]

Tuchtoon boi u high on naswar or what.

Being racist again? Go drink your cow piss.

Seriously these people in your video look like casual Indians/Bangalis/Sri Lankans.

 

[Kabira]

There been people coming to Punjab for work. They go back in off season.

lol

They are punjabis now, read the article. Bihari converted from ranjeet kumar to Ranjeet Singh. Sikh jatts are mixed with biharis and hindu jaats of Haryana, Up and Rajasthan who look like bhaiayas. Even sikh jatts are not pure jats anymore. You also know sikh jats who live around Pakistan punjab border looks different then other sikh jats.

 

[jatt+gutts]

Being racist again? Go drink your cow piss.

Seriously these people in your video look like casual Indians/Bangalis/Sri Lankans.[/

alright now run along learn punjabi first

lol

They are punjabis now, read the article. Bihari converted from ranjeet kumar to Ranjeet Singh. Sikh jatts are mixed with biharis and hindu jaats of Haryana, Up and Rajasthan who look like bhaiayas. Even sikh jatts are not pure jats anymore. You also know sikh jats who live around Pakistan punjab border looks different then other sikh jats.

buddy you guys look either half or full vedodids Why would u cAre abt Sikh jatt looks

 

[Kabira]

alright now run along learn punjabi first

buddy you guys look either half or full vedodids Why would u cAre abt Sikh jatt looks

Keep telling your self lies