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The mighty Satavahana dynasty .

Few artefacts found here and there and thats enough to invent 90% of history for hindus. :-)

Well i guess you won't appreciate any Non-Islamic empire of South Asia. But like i said tons of historical evidences are available to sustain these historic facts.

Now see all the wonderful architectural evidence left by Satavahanas
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Bhaja Caves built by Satavahana Dynasty built

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Bhattiprolu Stupa

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we are not pakistani muslims to invent a fake history and take shade in the achievements of mughals/afghans to be there victory over hindus.. India was ruled by some of the greatest hindu empires that stood against every invader and our prosperity has echoed all over the world...



watever sails your boat...:wave::wave: I dont want to derail this thread..

When you bring Qasim its on topic but when i say that hindu is not even Indian religion its derailing thread. :-) No offence but 95% of your history is invented, plus hinduism have origin outside India anyway, never forget aryans.

Well i guess you won't appreciate any Non-Islamic empire of South Asia. But like i said tons of historical evidences are available to sustain these historic facts.

Now see all the wonderful architectural evidence left by Satavahanas
kakgate.jpg



Bhaja Caves built by Satavahana Dynasty built

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Bhattiprolu Stupa

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Again these artefacts are not enough to invent 90% of history associated with them.
 
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Oh i guess that's the time when real civilization arrived in Indian- Sub continent. All the other civilizations before the coming of Qasim are just Junglee civilizations according to Pakistanis.

You had to bring in Pakistan. End your obsession with Pakistan please. Its getting creepy.
 
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I will try @Jaanbaz bhai. But what to do. I just can't forget our Pakistani brothers.:partay:
Bro...

Remember what i told you about Neanderthal.....who have had no contribution to the culture and civilization...of our subcontinent ....so plZ don't argue with them and derail this beautiful thread.
 
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The Satavahanas, the earliest power in Andhra, encouraged maritime trade and trading contracts were established with the Roman world as well as South-east Asia. In this process, Buddhism also played its role from the cultural centre of Amaravati. Buddhism travelled to South-east Asia in the early centuries of the Christian era. The images of Buddha of the Amaravatischool were found in all parts of South-east Asia as a mark of the earliest influence of India. More notable is the commercial contact. In fact the entire eastern seaboard had trading contacts with Rome. These became marked particularly after the consolidation of the Roman Empire under Augustus. During his reign and subsequently Roman trading settlements were establish on eastern coast. As an evidence to this, hoards of Roman coins were discovered in several parts of South India. The Romans had a trading emporium at Arikamedu, nearPondicherry. The pottery introduced by the Romans, known as the Rouletted Ware, can be seen in a number of excavations conducted in the Deccan and the eastern seaboard. In the sculptures of Nagarjunakonda can be seen this influence of the Roman cultural contact. As observed by Rowland, there is a figure of a youth which might have been copied from a Roman model.

Maritime Tradition of Andhra
 
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Bro...
Remember what i told you about Neanderthal.....who have had no contribution to the culture and civilization...of our subcontinent ....so plZ don't argue with them and derail this beautiful thread.
Bhai
@Jaanbaz in reality is a very sensible poster around here. I have always enjoyed reading most of his post. I think we should restrain from calling him name. If you read his previous post you would realize that he is a pretty liberal person ( which is hard to find on PDF).
 
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Thats why i say mods should open new section, "feel good history for Indians". No need to post in military history.

As i said watever sails u r boat bro, we scientifically proved that indo aryan invasion is a myth and this study even got
published in American Journal of Human Genetics.. Even if I go with your myth, that india was invaded by aryan of central asia to be true, dravidians of south established strong empires that others can only dream of satavahana empire, chola empires are some such examples..
 
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Bhai
@Jaanbaz in reality is a very sensible poster around here. I have always enjoyed reading most of his post. I think we should restrain from calling him name. If you read his previous post you would realize that he is a pretty liberal person ( which is hard to find on PDF).
I am not pointed towards @Jaanbaz...i was specific towards a delusional beast...all Pak posters are welcome to discuss...sorry if you felt that way

SOME DELUSIONS NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED....

1.Artifacts are important source of indian history as HISTORIOGRAPHY is a RECENT phenomenon that's why we have well documented history of Sikhs....mughals...and Marathas ..but not ancient india

2.For ancient indian history main sources are

Relegious documents (puranas and law books)

Copper plates

Account of foreigners about India (Ex. Romans and Greeks)

Artefacts and inscriptions ex... Asoka edicts,coins etc
 
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Political History of the Satavahanas

The vague, disputed and uncorroborated doubtful evidences form the basis for the history of the Satavahanas. The Jain sources mention Satavahana as the first king in the family. The Kathasaritsagara also contains a story about Satavahana. The Kondapur coins bear the legend 'Sadvahana'. On scriptal grounds this Satavahana is placed close to (either before or contemporaneous with) Simuka, the first ruler of the family mentioned in the Puranas. The latest discovery, Kotilingala coins (from Karimnagar district) included seven coins belonging to this Simuka.

Simuka
The legend on these coins strengthens the possibility that the king Satavahana of Kondapur coins is none other than Simuka himself who is called Simuka Satavahana in a Nanaghat label inscription also. It may be assumed that Simuka Satavahana was the founder of the dynasty and his successors called themselves Satavahanas.
Though Simuka Satavahana was the reputed founder of the Satavahana line of kings, he had not founded an independent state. He was probably the first to bring several Andhra family groups together and to oblige them to recognise him as their mutual and unique leader. He emerged as a prominent figure about 271 B.C. When the great Asoka Maurya, according to the Buddhist sources, was waging a bitter war of succession against his brothers. With Asoka's show of force in the Kalinga war, Simuka and his associates who held power for 23 years were content with their semi-independent status.

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Satavahana 1st century BCE coin inscribed in Brahmi: "(Sataka)Nisa"

Kanha (Krishna)

Kanha (Krishna), the brother and successor of Simuka, came under the spell of Asoka's increasing zeal for Dharma. A cave at Nasik for the Sramanas was constructed. Taking advantage of Asoka's death and the disturbed conditions in the Magadhan capital, Kanha probably broke off from the Mauryan yoke and acquired an independent status for the area under his authority.

Satakami-ll

The earliest of the Satavahana rulers to receive wide recognition was Satakami-ll (184 B.C.—128 B.C.), the sixth of
the Matsya corresponding to the third of the Vayu list and The Satavahanas 33 also to Satakami of both Kharavela's Hathigumpha inscription and Naganika's Nanaghat record. The wide recognition was due to his policy of military expansion in all directions. He defied Kharavela of Kalinga. He was the 'lord of Pratishthana' (modem Paithan in the north-western Deccan. He conquered eastern Malwa which was being threatened by the Sakas and the Greeks. He gained control of the region of Sanchi. After conquering the Godavari valley, Satakami became the 'lord of the Southern Regions' (Dakshinapathapati). He supported the brahman orthodoxy and performed an Aswamedha to establish
his claim to an empire. The Satavahanas did not hold the western Deccan for long.

They were gradually pushed out of the west by the Sakas {Western Khatrapas). The Kshaharata Nahapana's coins in
the Nasik area indicate that the Western Kshatrapas controlled this region by the first century A.D. By becoming master of wide regions including Malwa, Southern Gujarat, and Northern Konkan, from Broach to Sopara and the Nasik and Poona districts, Nahapana rose from the status of a mere Kshatrapa in the year 41 (58 A.D.) to that of Mahakshatrapa in the year 46 (63 A.D.).
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Satakarni Copper, square nasik type coins
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Coin of Satakarni


Gatitamiputra Satakami

Gatitamiputra Satakami, the 23rd king of the Matsya list, was one of the most illustrious rulers of ancient India. His reign is placed between 62 A.D. and 86 A.D. Some scholars attribute to him the foundation of the Safivahana era in 78 A.D. Gautamiputra was credited with the restoration of the fallen prestige of the dynasty. The Nasik inscription of his mother Gautami Bala Sri and his own records at Nasik and Karte furnish us a vivid account of his accomplishments and achievements.
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Gatitamiputra Satakami

His phenomenal success realized his ambition to recover the imperial position of the Satavahanas. He first won back the territories on his western borders from the Kshaharata successors of Nahapana. Nahapana's coins were restruck in
his name. Bala Sri's record credits him with the extirpation of the Kshaharata family. It is solid that he humbled the power and pride of the Kshatriyas and destroyed the Yavanas, Sakas and Pahlavans.

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According to the Nasik inscription made by his mother Gautami Balasri, "he is the one...
...who crushed down the pride and conceit of the Kshatriyas (the native Indian princes, the Rajputs of Rajputana, Gujarat and Central India); who destroyed theShakas (Western Kshatrapas), Yavanas (Indo-Greeks) and Pahlavas (Indo-Parthians),... who rooted the Khakharata family (The Kshaharata family of Nahapana); who restored the glory of the Satavahana race"


Gautamiputra Satakarni's dominions included the countries of Asika. Asaka, Mulaka, Surashtra, Kakura, Aparanta, Anupa, Vidarbha, Akara and Avanti, the mountainous regions of Virtdhya, Achavata, Pariyatra. Sahya, Kanhagiri, Siritana, Malaya. Mahendra, Seta and Chokora and extended as far as the seas on either side. These details indicate the extent of his empire over the country between Rajasthan and Cuddalore and between the Rishikulya and Vaijayanti. Gautamiputra made his horses drink the waters of the three oceans. He was uniquely skilled
as an archer, absolute as a sovereign and a figure of the heroic mould.
Though an absolute monarch, Gautamiputra was kind to his subjects and a father to his people. He tried to fulfil the
duties of the Trivarga-Dharma, Artha and Kama. He shared the sorrows and pleasures of his people. He is described as
'the abode of the Vedas'.

Vasisthiputra Pulomavi
Gautamiputra's son and successor Vasisthiputra Pulomavi (86-114 A.D.) could not maintain for long his hold over his vast inheritance. During the last years of his rule, he lost the north-western provinces of the Andhra empire to Chashtana, the founder of the Western Kshatrapa Kardamaka line. His successors, Siva Sri and Sivaskanda each ruled for seven years during which period the house of Chashtana expanded its authority upto Cutch in the west by 130 A.D. Chashtana's grandson Rudradaman made his substantial contribution in the growth of the Kardamaka power.

Gautamiputra Yajna Sri
Gautamiputra Yajna Sri (128 A.D. - 157 A.D.) was the last of the great Satavahana rulers. He made attempts to recover the western (Aparanta) provinces. His efforts proved futile. Rudradaman won over the disgruntled Vasisthiputra
Satakami, a relation of Yajna Sri, to his side by giving him his daughter in marriage. The two encounters between Yajna Sri and Rudradaman's forces went against the Andhras. The Saka suzerainty was acknowledged. The Satavahana rule was confined to the Andhra area. The reigns of Yajna Sri's successors, Vijaya, Chanda Sri and Pulomavi (III), covering altogether a period of seventeen years, are of little significance historically. The rise of the Chutus in the west and south, the Abhiras in the Nasik area, the Ikshvakus in the east and the relentless pressure of the Kardamakas of Ujjain sounded the death-knell of the Satavahana empire. Thus came to an end the glorious phase of the rule of the Satavahanas who not only gave the area political integrity but protected it from foreign invaders who inundated the North at that time.

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ADMINISTRATION

The extent of the Satavahana empire fluctuated continually
according to the political vicissitudes of the times. At its zenith, their empire stretched from the Bay of Bengal in the east to the Arabian sea in the west and embraced the entire region between the Narmada in the north and the Krishna in the south. There is also archaeiological evidence regarding the Satavahana conquest of Malwa and the Puranic evidence for their control over the ancient imperial capital of Magadha, i.e. Pataliputra. Being the political successors of the Mauryans, they borrowed much from the Mauryan administrative system. Their government was based upon hereditory absolute monarchy. They were not content with the simple title of Raja. Gautamiputra Satakarni bore the imperial title 'Rajarano' i.e. of King of Kings. The rulers regarded themselves as the guardians of social and political order and the welfare of their subjects.
For administrative purposes, the empire was divided into a number of Aharas or Rashtras (Govardhana, Sopara. Manrrala, Satavahana etc.), each of which consisted of at least one central town (Nigama) and a number of villages. The Amatyas governed these Aharas. The Maharathis and the Mahabhojas, the feudatory chieftains, were superior in rank and power to
the Amatyas. The inscriptions refer to officers like Mahassnapati, Heranika, Bhandagarika, Mahamatra, Lekhaka and Nibandhakaras. Gramas (villages) and Nigamas (towns) were the lowest administrative units. Considerable autonomy was there in managing the affairs of these units. The trade and merchant guilds (srenies) played an important part in this regard.


ECONOMIC CONDITIONS


In the economic sphere, agriculture was the mainstay of both the people and the government. The country abounded in agricultural products. The king collected the traditional one-sixth of the produce as the share of the state. Salt was a state monopoly. industry and commerce occupied the next place in the economic life of the state. Various classes of workers such as Kularika (potters), Kolika (weaver), Vasakara (bamboo worker), Dhanntka (com dealer) and ICamara (iron worker) are known from the inscriptions. Most of these crafts and trades were organised into guilds or srenis. These guilds provided banking facilities. There was brisk inland trade and sea-borne commerce.Paithan, Tagara, Karahataka, Nasik, Govardhana Vaijayanti

D-hanyakataka, Vijayapura and Vinukonda were great inland market towns of the period. They were connected with each other and with the important parts by roads. Ptolemy described Barukachcha and Kalyan on the west and Maisolia, Allosygne and Apheterion on the east as greet centres of foreign trade. The Periplus of the Erythrean Sea notes that Barukachacha imported wines, silver vessels, fine cloth and ornaments white her exports included ivory, agate, silk cloth and pepper. The number and variety of the Satavahana coins also prove this vigorous commercial activity. The Roman gold flowed into
the Deccan for articles of luxury. The Satavahana period also witnessed an active maritime activity (as revealed by the ship-marked coins of Pulomavi and Yajnasri Satakarni) with the Far East, Ptolemy and the Periplus give descriptions of the Indian settlements in Burma,
Sumatra, Arakan and Champa.
Seals, what a striking similarities to Indus valley seals!!
 
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But are they taught in schools

Yes they are thought and quite in depth. I still remember them very clearly.. I loved History classes.

It is huge loss then.It should be taught at school level.The school history text books must be divided into following segments at least:

1)Pre Mongolian era
2)Post Mongolian era
3)Arab invasion
4)British rule and partition.

It should be made compulsory. To be very honest I am not much aware about pre Mongolian era or much about civilizations before Arab invasion.It would be great to have such threads so that we could study civilizations and changes in culture in more detail.
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The test books are something similar

1)Pre Mongolian era
2)Post Mongolian era
3)Arab invasion
4)British rule and partition.
5) World wars and other modern conflicts
 
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