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The mighty Satavahana dynasty .

Because very little info is available about these ancient dynasties......Mughals and British have very well documented history

Not true, our textbooks are written by people who have left leanings and who are basically communists, they disregard anything that is indigenous to India. for ex. maratha and sikh empires and there rulers where not given as imp as moghal and delhi sultanates even though there history is well documented ..
 
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Oh i guess that's the time when real civilization arrived in Indian- Sub continent. All the other civilizations before the coming of Qasim are just Junglee civilizations according to Pakistanis.
HERE WE GO eventually your thread is directed towards pakistan you are big troll and i keep on saying that you are obsessed with pakistan ............... you are really pissed some how .... but it is good in a way you got to know the art how to control your emotions ...... keep calm else you would get a life sooner
 
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Well it's mentioned in CBSE/NCERT textbooks dealing with South Indian history during the period between 2nd century BC to 2nd century AD. But it's not given that much importance due to the influence of all the Communists in our Edu- system.
It is huge loss then.It should be taught at school level.The school history text books must be divided into following segments at least:

1)Pre Mongolian era
2)Post Mongolian era
3)Arab invasion
4)British rule and partition.

It should be made compulsory. To be very honest I am not much aware about pre Mongolian era or much about civilizations before Arab invasion.It would be great to have such threads so that we could study civilizations and changes in culture in more detail.
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@Nihonjin1051 You may like this, you may recall that a few days back we were having a discussion over History & where I introduced you to the Satavahana & Vijayanagaram Empires..

@Lord Zen Thanks for starting this wonderful thread :) . I always feel very proud to be A Telugu & an Andhraite(eventhough I'm a settler in TG) when I read such threads!


EDIT1:- When I browsed the internet for the Satavahanas, I found some rather interesting links

'Historical Analysis of the Satavahana Era: A Study of Coins' (PhD Thesis) - Chapters 1 and 2 | Shailen Bhandare - Academia.edu
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The Andhra Satavahanas


he Mauryan Emperor Brihadratha slowly walked across the lines of the army, with a pleasant smile and confident swagger. It was a routine army review. Just like the many he has supervised over the years. As he walked forward, he suddenly looked back in simmering anger at the guard who was a little slow with the royal umbrella, resulting in a little sliver of the sun landing on the Emperor’s cheek. Little did he know that this would be the last thing he would do.

Pushyamitra Sunga, a high ranking general stepped out of the neatly stacked Mauryan infantry lines and confronted the Lord of Magadha. The emperor looked at him in mild annoyance but soon that expression turned to terror. Pushyamitra had drawn the scimitar out of his scabbard and drove it through Brihadratha’s chest. In one swing of the shoulder, the sun set hurriedly over the Asokan empire as steel met flesh. A new Sun would rise the next day, over the Sunga Empire.

The terrifying control Pataliputra exercised over its dominions during the time of Ashoka had already been diluted and this coup in the royal capital only made the Maharathis ( the local Governors) more ambitious and avaricious. Amongst them who took advantage of the confusion in the plains of Magadha, was a young man in the Deccan. Srimukha.

Little did he know that his mere assertion of independence would sow the seeds to one of the largest empires the Deccan would ever know – The Andhra Satavahanas.


Sungan dominance was challenged by the Kanvas a century later and it was a Satavahana king Pulomavi who kills Susarman, the last Kanva king and ends the dominance of Pataliputra over Indian politics forever. The Mauryan empire fell prey to its great size and centralized administration, like all large empires which tend to believe in centripetal usurpation of power do ( Remember the Khiljis after Allauddin or the Mughals after Aurungzeb). It was supplanted to a large Satavahana empire which captured the Deccan and the Kushans and Indo Greeks who took over the NorthWest.

The first great king of the Satavahanas was Satakarni I. From the information which the Nanaghat inscription of his wife Naganika offers us, we can conclude that he performed a Aswamedha sacrifice and proclaimed himself Dakshinapatha Swami ( a title to be famously used by Pulakesin II several centuries later as he defeated HarshaVardhana in the only defeat the Uttarapadha Swami would ever face).

Satakarni I was undoubtedly the initial empire builder for the Satavahanas who raised them to becoming the paramount sovereigns of Trans-Vindhyan India spreading outward from the Godavari Valley challenging the Greeks of Punjab and the Sungas in the plains of the Ganges.

It was the river Narmada. The year was 78AD. The horses of the Western Shatrap ruler Nahapana squarely faced the armies of the Satavahana king, Gautamiputra Satakarni. The Western Shatraps were the local descendents of the Sakas, the warring tribes of Central Asia.

As horses rode into battle over the din of war drums and clashing of swords, the young man from the plains of Godavari stood observant as his generals raised the flags of war, brilliant in vermillion and yellow. It wasn’t a mere battle. It was the sole event which would alter history as India burst forth on her unavoidable assimilation of all foreign tribes. Nahapana should be destroyed. That was the oath this young man had sworn in front of his mother and he would fulfill it. The war capitulated quickly as the Satavahanas fought fiercely with the speed of the Sun ( from whom, some say they descended as the Saptavahanas) and the Saka rulers were routed. The Satavahana dominions in the Deccan were safeguarded from the continuous pressure from the invading Iranian tribesman and the important ports of the West coast moved into their hands. Bharukachcha, Sopara, and Kalyana.

To commemorate his victory, Gautamiputra performed two Aswamedha yagnas, took the title of Trisamudrapitatoyavahana (one whose horses had drunk waters from 3 oceans). Not a big fan of elaborate minting, he instructed the coins of Nahapana be restruck with the Satavahana royal symbols at Jogulathambi. He ordered the earlier Vikrama calendar to be abandoned. It was the Era of the Satavahana now.

His conquests are generously extolled in the Nasik inscription of his mother Gautami Balasri. It which describes his dominions to extend from Banavasi in Karnataka to Kanchi in TamilNadu in the South to Aparanta(Konkan), Anupa ( MP) and Saurashtra in the north. He is said to have defeated the Yavanas (Greeks), the Shakas( Scythians) and the Pahlavas. He built a second capital at Dharanikota, near the present day Amaravati in Guntur district of AP, in addition to the traditional Pratishtana in the Maharashtra region.

Although he gave himself the title of “EkaBrahmana” and proclaimed the superiority of the caste system, the Satavahana empire has sterling examples of the promotion of minority faiths and languages. Buddhist art, learning and monasteries were promoted. The caves at Karle and the Buddhist stupas at Kanheri and Amaravati were built during this period, with generous donations from the Satavahana rulers. Various sects among the Buddhists sprung up.

Gunadhya wrote Brihatkadha in Paisachika language and Hala wrote Gathasaptasati in Pali. The great works of Bhasa, including the memorable Swapnavasavadatta and Aswaghosha composed his Buddhacharita and the greatest of the Mahayana scholars, Nagarjuna composed his seminal work Mūlamadhyamakakārika (Fundamental Verses on the Middle Way) during the Satavahana period in Sanskrit.

Gautamiputra Sri Satakarni (often revered as the Salivahana) was succeeded by Vasisthiputra Pulamavi who continued to expand the empire. He was succeeded by Vasisithiputra Satakarni who was defeated by the Western Shatrap ruler Rudradaman. It should be mentioned here that Rudradaman was the father in law of Vasisthiputra Satakarni but doesn’t seem to have any qualms in defeating his son in law in war, twice actually.

His Junagadh inscription specifically states that the only reason that the Satavahana king was allowed to live after the defeat was due to the alliance which bound the two kingdoms. (Ouch!)

After this defeat, the Satavahanas never recovered except for a brief period of glory under Yajna Sri Satakarni.

The emperors of the empire were known for their peculiar custom of matronymics. Gautamiputra and Vasisthiputra were among the rulers of this line who consciously decided to be identified for posterity through their matrilineal heritage than anything else. Romila Thapar in her book is deliberately vague as to the importance of this practice and its allusion towards a matrilineal and probably matriarchal practice among the Satavahanas. Even though inheritance to the throne was certainly patriarchal, this matronymic idea is unique to the Satavahanas. It should also remembered that the two major inscriptions of their period were on the orders of the royal queens (Nasik Inscription by Gautami Balasri and Nanaghat inscription of Naganika) and these are the major sources of information for us about the Satavahana Empire.

The Satavahana Empire became the first among several successive Deccan Empires that defended the plateau successfully from the northern invasions. (Taking the mantle from them were the Vakatakas, Chalukyas of Badami, Rashtrakutas, Chalukyas of Kalyani, Kakatiyas and the might Vijayanagara Empire).

The Deccan route became an important trading route between the mineral and rice rich southern parts of India and the rest of Northern India and the Satavahanas defended this route zealously and promoted trade and commerce. The ports of Kalyana and Sopara were teeming with Oriental and Occidental trade, making it truly the Mercantile Age.

One of the most underrated Empires of the south; the Satavahanas shall remain tied to the destiny of India forever, bound by a silken thread of a singular administrative instruction. The official Saka Calendar which the Government of India has adopted was started by the greatest of the Satavahana kings, Gautamiputra Sri Satakarni. AD 78.

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What an excellent thread ! Thank you @Lord Zen for starting this, and thank you so much @Darmashkian for tagging me! What a rich, and grand history !

Oh you are most Welcome! :)

Please read my edited post above, I added a few links in it just now.

http://download.nos.org/srsec315new/History Book_L06.pdf
Check the part about the satavahanas in this ..
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Time running out for capital of Satavahanas - The Hindu

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The ancient Koti Lingala temple shrine in Velgatoor mandal which is on the verge of submergence under Sripada Yellampalli project in Karimnagar district.


With the stage set for inaugural of Yellampalli project, people are raising their voice against the submergence of Koti Lingala village
The ancient and historic Sri Koteshwara and Siddeshwara Swamy Devasthanam located on the shores of the Godavari in Koti Lingala village of Velgatoor mandal, which would be submerged in the back waters of the Sripada Yellampalli project, is back in the news over its protection from submergence.

The State Archaeology Department identified Koti Lingala as the protected site as the village was considered to be the first capital of Satavahana dynasty.

The dynasty also used the river shores in the village for transportation of goods as was evident from the wharf constructed with the bricks on the shores.

During the excavations by the Archaeology Department, the authorities recovered rare thrimukha coin (with pictures of Rama, Sita and Laxman) at the site. Even numismatists and historians crusaded for the protection of ancient site.

Ancient village
With the completion of the project and government contemplating to inaugurate the project very soon, historians and others have again raised the issue of protection of the ancient village from submergence.

Chairman of Telangana Jagruthi programmes and disciplinary committee T. Tirupathi Rao and others visited the Koti Lingala village and spoke to the villagers about the government measures for the protection of the village from submergence.

Talking to The Hindu on Monday, Tirupathi Rao said the backwaters of Sripada Yellampalli project would touch the temple steps on the shores of the river and also submerge precious ancient structures of the dynasty and other Buddhists’ sites.

He demanded that the government should construct a protection wall around the village to protect from submergence and construction of a museum to preserve the antiquities of the dynasty recovered from the village.


He urged the government to construct a guest house for the benefit of visitors and historians doing research on the dynasty.

Keywords: Sripada Yellampalli project, Satavahana dynasty, Koti Lingala, Siddeshwara Swamy Devasthanam

http://download.nos.org/srsec315new/History Book_L06.pdf
Check the part about the satavahanas in this ..
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Time running out for capital of Satavahanas - The Hindu

newPic_7263_jpg_1712338f.jpg

The ancient Koti Lingala temple shrine in Velgatoor mandal which is on the verge of submergence under Sripada Yellampalli project in Karimnagar district.


With the stage set for inaugural of Yellampalli project, people are raising their voice against the submergence of Koti Lingala village
The ancient and historic Sri Koteshwara and Siddeshwara Swamy Devasthanam located on the shores of the Godavari in Koti Lingala village of Velgatoor mandal, which would be submerged in the back waters of the Sripada Yellampalli project, is back in the news over its protection from submergence.

The State Archaeology Department identified Koti Lingala as the protected site as the village was considered to be the first capital of Satavahana dynasty.

The dynasty also used the river shores in the village for transportation of goods as was evident from the wharf constructed with the bricks on the shores.

During the excavations by the Archaeology Department, the authorities recovered rare thrimukha coin (with pictures of Rama, Sita and Laxman) at the site. Even numismatists and historians crusaded for the protection of ancient site.

Ancient village
With the completion of the project and government contemplating to inaugurate the project very soon, historians and others have again raised the issue of protection of the ancient village from submergence.

Chairman of Telangana Jagruthi programmes and disciplinary committee T. Tirupathi Rao and others visited the Koti Lingala village and spoke to the villagers about the government measures for the protection of the village from submergence.

Talking to The Hindu on Monday, Tirupathi Rao said the backwaters of Sripada Yellampalli project would touch the temple steps on the shores of the river and also submerge precious ancient structures of the dynasty and other Buddhists’ sites.

He demanded that the government should construct a protection wall around the village to protect from submergence and construction of a museum to preserve the antiquities of the dynasty recovered from the village.


He urged the government to construct a guest house for the benefit of visitors and historians doing research on the dynasty.
 
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Nosses on coins look foreign, seem like rulers were central asians.
They had no central Asian features to begin with.The only debate here is whether they are Andhras or from Maharashtra ( from the Vindhyan tribe).

The Satavahana empire has sterling examples of the promotion of minority faiths and languages. Buddhist art, learning and monasteries were promoted. The caves at Karle and the Buddhist stupas at Kanheri and Amaravati were built during this period, with generous donations from the Satavahana rulers. Various sects among the Buddhists sprung up.
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Infact the Satavahanas should be credited for the revival of Vedic culture & Hinduism in Central & South India that too peacefully. It's one the main reason for reemergence of Hinduism & a decline of Buddhism by getting diluted with the pre-existent dharmic beliefs.
 
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They had no central Asian features to begin with.They only debate here is whether they are Andhras or from Maharashtra ( from the Vindhyan tribe).

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Most of the accounts of so called ancient hindu empires are exaggerated to say the least. With every little proof if at all. They should be in mythical section of PDF and not history.
 
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What an excellent thread ! Thank you @Lord Zen for starting this, and thank you so much @Darmashkian for tagging me! What a rich, and grand history !
Thanks for your appreciation. I was really impressed by this great Empire & it's prolific achievements while i was reading about history of ancient South/Central India after the decline of Great Maurya empire.And i felt that this empire of our was really underrated.
 
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Not true, our textbooks are written by people who have left leanings and who are basically communists, they disregard anything that is indigenous to India. for ex. maratha and sikh empires and there rulers where not given as imp as moghal and delhi sultanates even though there history is well documented ..
Because Maratha and SIkh history is well documented, is not about giving importance but exaggerated accounts of most mythical hindu kingdoms. :-)
 
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exaggerated accounts of most mythical hindu kingdoms. :-)
Most of the accounts of so called ancient hindu empires are exaggerated to say the least. With every little proof if at all. They should be in mythical section of PDF and not history.
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Now don't spread nonsense aka falsehood here mister.The achievements & glorious existence of Satavahana empire is well documented by tons of artifacts , ancient historical monuments ( which are still standing to this very day & are important tourist destinations ).

See it for your self. I guess you never heard of the magnificent Amaravati Stupa from the Satavahana Empire's era.

Amaravati_Stupa_relief_at_Museum.jpg
 
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Now don't spread nonsense aka falsehood here mister.The achievements & glorious existence of Satavahana empire is well documented by tons of artifacts , ancient historical monuments ( which are still standing to this very day & are important tourist destinations ).

See it for your self. I guess you never heard of the magnificent Amaravati Stupa from the Satavahana Empire's era.

Amaravati_Stupa_relief_at_Museum.jpg

Few artefacts found here and there and thats enough to invent 90% of history for hindus. :-)
 
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Because Maratha and SIkh history is well documented, is not about giving importance but exaggerated accounts of most mythical hindu kingdoms. :-)

for those whose history started with the invasion of qasim and who take pride in the fact that forigners massacred there people converted them and destroyed there culture, hindu kingdoms will sound nothing but exaggerated myths... :agree:
 
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for those whose history started with the invasion of qasim and who take pride in the fact that forigners massacred there people converted them and destroyed there culture, hindu kingdoms will sound nothing but exaggerated myths... :agree:

Hindu religion is not native to India either, why you ignore this fact? :-)
 
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Few artefacts found here and there and thats enough to invent 90% of history for hindus. :-)

we are not pakistani muslims to invent a fake history and take shade in the achievements of mughals/afghans to be there victory over hindus.. India was ruled by some of the greatest hindu empires that stood against every invader and our prosperity has echoed all over the world...

Hindu religion is not native to India either, why you ignore this fact? :-)

watever sails your boat...:wave::wave: I dont want to derail this thread..
 
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