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The Middle East needs a stronger Erdogan

Is NOT deep state and an uncooperative opposition responsible for the instability in Muslim lands?


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Arresting people for their ideology is something we would complain about, for sure.
Not ideology but propaganda for a terrorist group thats killing people, you can think like that in Sweden but in ME such things have bloody consequences.
 
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Not ideology but propaganda for a terrorist group thats killing people, you can think like that in Sweden but in ME such things have bloody consequences.
Nations like the Swedish don't know what it means to be the victim of terror for a longer time period. Believe me, they're going to change after the recent terror attacks.
 
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Sure media is under pressure lately but majority (not all) of those journalists are pro pkk or gülenist media journalists making propaganda for them, they deserve no less in my opinion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_arrested_journalists_in_Turkey


Arrest of HDP MP's is good too let me explain why:

-Their MPs made statements like ''we put our back towards Qandil'' referring to pkk HQ in Iraq.
-Their MPs shouting ''biji serok apo'' (long live apo) referring to Abdullah Öcalan, the imprisoned founder of pkk in the parliament.


-HDP municipalities have used the peace process to help pkk to ditch trenches in easter cities, they allowed them to deploy weapon and fighters in urban areas, they handed them heavy construction machines to dig trenches and deploy IEDs under asphalt.





All of this would get HDP a complete ban in previous goverments, many parties got banned for much less.
So i dont know why such people should be fed by tax money of people and enjoy immunity, they should rot in jail for all i care.
Let them support El Kaida or ISIS here. Not a single bullet will fall on the ground!!!!!
 
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yup the middle east needs more dictators. when the dictators are the one who are bringing all the miseries. only an enemy of Turkish people would wish a stronger erdogan.
 
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I wonder how turkey and pakistan look at the current escalating situation in syria where two large military powers are present.
 
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Middle east needs leaders who can shut up western (including russain/chinese/whatever) nose-poking and provide environments where society can grow and develop islamically and where Islam's role in society is respected and acknowledged. It can be a monarchy or elected PM/president does NOT matter. Otherwise people will feel oppressed and rebel and foreign powers will take advantage.

The dangers of monarchy far outweigh the benefits of it. For example in a democracy if the ruler is tyrannical people can simply vote him out but in an absolute monarchy there's no way out in a lifetime. Even when the heir takes over usually he follows his father's footsteps. Apart from that, corruption is inherent in absolute monarchy like it is in ME because the entire state is considered as the private property of the monarch.


yup the middle east needs more dictators. when the dictators are the one who are bringing all the miseries. only an enemy of Turkish people would wish a stronger erdogan.

At least you have the option to vote this 'dictator' out of power, that is if majority of your countrymen share your concern but it looks like they don't. Look at us, our so-called suckular regime has thugs ready to do the voting for us. So, be happy with what you have or else you'll end up with sissy or assad like 'democratic' champion.
 
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only an enemy of Turkish people would wish a stronger erdogan.
So we are the enemies of Turkey but PKK and FETO terrorists are the patriots of Turkey because of they say no
What a good mentality. You go on your way and we go on to ours. Lets wait and see what will be the result of referandum. If we have democracy we will except the result even its Yes like i want to be as a result or No you want to be as a result.
 
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I used to be a very pro political Islam supporter but the older I get and the more of the world I see, I have come to the conclusion that there is only solution and that is a secular liberal democracy.
This secular Liberal Democracy will protect everyone of all religions, including Muslims.

It is the only way to forward and the sooner we do it, the sooner we can fight back against the Europeans.
 
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Nations like the Swedish don't know what it means to be the victim of terror for a longer time period. Believe me, they're going to change after the recent terror attacks.
It is highly unlikely that someone openly supporting terrorism would get reelected.
A minority will regardless of opinion, stay a minority and powerless in the parlament.
 
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It is highly unlikely that someone openly supporting terrorism would get reelected.
A minority will regardless of opinion, stay a minority and powerless in the parlament.

Do you know how HDP get most of their votes from Eastern Turkey where Kurd live? Threat, violation. Look at this election propaganda photos below. It is blood from the tap ...

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"No other parties can enter this territory except HDP"
" If we got votes we are the sun, rain.. But if we can't I will go to mountains to fight "
" Be prepared "
" Doesn it worth it ?"

And they go to villages threat people, " If we don't win in this village you all die " .......
Easterners fed up with these threats, terror, violation already. And they voted for HDP forcedly. Now it's all ending. Will be no PKK-Party in the parliament. No threats anymore.
 
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Did it ever occur to the Turks that perhaps the PKK is playing reverse psychology by supporting the no campaign so that most Turks vote for Erdogan and end up destroying their own country in the long term?
 
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Do you know how HDP get most of their votes from Eastern Turkey where Kurd live? Threat, violation. Look at this election propaganda photos below. It is blood from the tap ...

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"No other parties can enter this territory except HDP"
" If we got votes we are the sun, rain.. But if we can't I will go to mountains to fight "
" Be prepared "
" Doesn it worth it ?"

And they go to villages threat people, " If we don't win in this village you all die " .......
Easterners fed up with these threats, terror, violation already. And they voted for HDP forcedly. Now it's all ending. Will be no PKK-Party in the parliament. No threats anymore.

So did HDP get a majority? I think not.

They can only influence where Erdogan is in conflict with the other parties.

Erdogan cooperated with the Kurds until HDP got elected and stopped his previous attempt
of power grab. Then Erdogan made sure the Kurd conflict hottened up.
 
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A fact like that Gulen nonsense evry secret Service says doesnt exist?
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What do you know about FETO terrorists?
Of course they will talk like that they are the partners of them.
A few days ago an investigation started for some Americans including Baharara,Graham Fuller etc. for supporting Gulen terrorism and coup.
 
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