The Kashmir Issue a fresh take

[for truth]

Show the people of Kashmir ? Show us what ? What have we done for our motherlands instead of being a festering wound between two neighbors ?

If we Kashmiris want to improve our countries then we must do something about it instead of biatching about our present predicament; but I suppose that goes back to the beginning doesn't it ? We got done over by the Mughals, then the Afghans & now our present situation. And we cry & wail & do nothing !

Be Pakistanis first, second & last & do something for the People of Pakistan because they've done more than enough for us Kashmiris.

finally, you let yourself out. whether you are intentionally denying the funding of terror, brainwashing the youth and radicalizing them with hate by Pakistan security establishment etc etc the list goes on, even India has done a lot to Kashmir, it is building railways to improve the connectivity, building hospitals to improve medical care, Kashmiri people are provided reservations in all Indian universities with scholarships, in other terms, the Indian kashmiris has much better access to far better education system, health care, transport, connectivity, they have a better chance of getting a high paid job, and many are already being recruited in big Indian companies, but all this has become pain in the A$$ for separatists, and they are blowing up rail tracks, they are against Indian tourists visiting Kashmir.what was a simple territorial dispute has been turned into religious war by constant radical thoughts that are propagated from Pakistani side, during one of the prayer meetings, these separatists offered prayer to osama bin laden and wished him to be in peace, now ask yourself, do these who worshiped a terrorist ever represent the people of Kashmir, do they really want development and equality? do these separatists who think that Indian Hindus visiting Kashmir for amarnath yatra are destroying the Islamic culture will ever understand what India has done for them? no matter what India does, even if India does a 100 times more than what Pakistanis can ever do to kashmiris, they will keep blaming India, and i blame the ideology for this.it has nothing to do with development,health care, or any sh!t for that matter.
India has done and is doing a lot more to kashmiris than Pakistan has done.

but you have blinded yourself with Pakistani ideology, so let it end here.

 

[Ayush]

and about your post.i completely agree.but the main problem is land.no country in the world wants to give up land.

and,welcome to pdf.

you can also introduce yourself in member's introduction.

 

[Roybot]

You just pulled out these numbers from your arse, didn't ya?

This might help.

http://www.chathamhouse.org/sites/default/files/public/Research/Asia/0510pp_kashmir.pdf

The poll has produced startling results. On average 44 percent of people in Pakistani-administered Kashmir favoured independence, compared with 43 percent in Indian Kashmir.

Twenty one percent of the population said they would vote for the whole of Kashmir to join India, and only 15 percent said they would vote for it to join Pakistan.

On the Indian side, 28 percent want all of J&K and AJK to go with India and another 19 percent want the LOC to be permanent, meaning that atleast 47% are happy with the status quo, 43 % want Independence and 2% want to join Pakistan

 

[Da-Bang]

^^^Awesome bro, should help some ignorant people get out of their blind beliefs.

One thing I came to know, Pakistanis are made to believe that kashmir is their by natural right, and somehow all Kashmiris want to join the great Welfare Islamic nation of Pakistan.

Unfortunately many will take this delusion to the grave, while real Kashmiris are having a good time and enjoying their life here in India.

And @Sinhala, that document is probably all you need to know where kashmiris stand, btw do you have some survey about Tamils stayin with lanka or UN should give them their separate eelam??

 

[Kaniska]

With the Kashmir issue, what do the people of Kashmir want?

Do they want to side with India? or Pakistan? or Independence? Has there ever been a consensus from the people of kashmir?

Who cares man what other nation think about us...Did any one in this world question about what is the opinion of Tibetian people in Tibet? Do you guys really ever would like to ask the Tamil people wheather they would like to be with Sri Lanka or not???? Dear friend...in this age of geo politics...every thing is just not so straight and that can be visible as black and white....Yes...India has done mistakes in Kashmir.....The mistake was that our past politician of Congi party like Nehru has done a mistake in going to UN with Kashmir issue...Otherwise Kashmir would be just like Tamil problem in Sri Lanka or secession activity who are demanding separate nation in Pakistan itself...It is just a matter of how would you like to see it....It is all up to you..

But as a common Indian ...i think like this way....We included(occupied/won) Kashmir in 1947 to Indian kingdom and then lost of half of it in the war with Pakistan...These are the ground level facts..So now after 65 years of Kashmir with India, we really donot care about what other nation or people think about what should we do with our territory....Yes..GOI can do only thing is that people who are interested to be with Pakistan, GOI can open the Kashmir border for one way traffic so that for once and all these anti national people who cry for azadi can migrate to Pakistan and settle their permanently....

 

[nForce]

You think we gonna buy your propaganda stories & fake encounters? Sorry but that is limited to india only.



If wishes were horses, p1g$ would fly. Kashmir issue is pending in UN & UN wants plebiscite, issues are not solved on arrogant's dreams. Just like UN accepted Palestine recently, Kashmir issue will also be solved.

First condition for plebiscite.Pakistan must vacate the part of Kashmir they are occupying,with Indian forces left there to maintain security,law and order.You do that first.Read the UN resolution on this.

 

[Infinity]

Nothing to worry friends...........................Kashmir is much peaceful than ever before....................I assure being in J&K i can confirm its Calm here and our neighbors are desperate to create problems ......................Kashmir will always be with India...............

 

[Pakistanisage]

Can you form coherent sentences please on this sensitive issue.

Only a nitwit from Sri Lanka does not comprehend what I am talking about. The Kashmiris and the Indians understand perfectly well what I am talking about. The comment is for their benefit and not yours. By the way, being a Sri lankan, Kashmir is none of your business. Besides you are a rookie here and this kind of attitude is not welcome from a Rookie like yourself.

 

[dabong1]

finally, you let yourself out. whether you are intentionally denying the funding of terror, brainwashing the youth and radicalizing them with hate by Pakistan security establishment etc etc the list goes on, even India has done a lot to Kashmir, it is building railways to improve the connectivity, building hospitals to improve medical care, Kashmiri people are provided reservations in all Indian universities with scholarships, in other terms, the Indian kashmiris has much better access to far better education system, health care, transport, connectivity, they have a better chance of getting a high paid job, and many are already being recruited in big Indian companies, but all this has become pain in the A$$ for separatists, and they are blowing up rail tracks, they are against Indian tourists visiting Kashmir.what was a simple territorial dispute has been turned into religious war by constant radical thoughts that are propagated from Pakistani side, during one of the prayer meetings, these separatists offered prayer to osama bin laden and wished him to be in peace, now ask yourself, do these who worshiped a terrorist ever represent the people of Kashmir, do they really want development and equality? do these separatists who think that Indian Hindus visiting Kashmir for amarnath yatra are destroying the Islamic culture will ever understand what India has done for them? no matter what India does, even if India does a 100 times more than what Pakistanis can ever do to kashmiris, they will keep blaming India, and i blame the ideology for this.it has nothing to do with development,health care, or any sh!t for that matter.
India has done and is doing a lot more to kashmiris than Pakistan has done.

but you have blinded yourself with Pakistani ideology, so let it end here.

If the above is all true then obviously the people of kashmir would vote to stay with india in a referendum that let them choose there future just like your past prime minister promised.

"We have declared that the fate of Kashmir is ultimately to be decided by the people. That pledge we have given, and the Maharaja has supported it, not only to the people of Kashmir but to the world. We will not, and cannot back out of it. We are prepared when peace and law and order have been established to have a referendum held under international auspices like the United Nations. We want it to be a fair and just reference to the people, and we shall accept their verdict. I can imagine no fairer and juster offer."
Jawaharlal Nehru New Delhi on 2 November

Or do expect some other outcome in the vote?
India is after all giving the kashmiris everything..."better education system, health care, transport, connectivity, they have a better chance of getting a high paid job, and many are already being recruited in big Indian companies"
What other outcome can we expect other then the kashmirs dancing to the ballot box and voting for india with a thumbs up and a happy smile.

Just like the british gave better education system, health care, transport, connectivity, and a better chance of getting a high paid job, and maybe even being recruited to the east india company did not stop the struggle for freedom.