The Iraqi Armed Forces

[BigDaddyWatch]

No. We did.

No you didn't the Iraqi army is riddled with corruption and infiltration and different parts of the army has different loyalties then toward the central government in Baghdad. Today Iraq is on the edge of civil war as the tensions is building up amongst the Sunni, Shia and Kurds in Iraq. And a similar situation exist in Afghanistan. And that only cost the Americans 12 years and about 1,5 trillion $ to achieve and if you add the legacy costs of these wars then it will be well over 3 trillion $.

 

[Alshawi1234]

No you didn't the Iraqi army is riddled with corruption and infiltration and different parts of the army has different loyalties then toward the central government in Baghdad. Today Iraq is on the edge of civil war as the tensions is building up amongst the Sunni, Shia and Kurds in Iraq. And a similar situation exist in Afghanistan. And that only cost the Americans 12 years and about 1,5 trillion $ to achieve and if you add the legacy costs of these wars then it will be well over 3 trillion $.

Actually the Iraqi forces went through many phasing out processes in which many of the persons loyal to militias were phased out in many events. During operation "charge of the knights" in 2008 thousands of soldiers and police deserted with the JAM fighter and that operation did a really good job on exposing the militias loyalties in the military.

Right now there are really strict laws governing the operation of the military which make it extremely complicated for militia men to infiltrate. Don't forget that the Iraqi army and police have been constantly fighting terrorism for 10 years so they gained a lot experience in dealing with pretty much every type of event and crime that ever existed and also exposing the infiltration.

regardless of all the mistakes that the US did they still did a great job at helping with rebuilding the Iraqi army. right now there are still a few thousand US advisers in Iraq helping in training.

There is no civil war between sunni and shias, that stage passed. kurds are foreigners that are conspiring against Iraq. they do not consider themselves Iraqi therefore shouldn't be treated as such.

 

[Ceylal]

There is news that the Qataris actually tried to stop the last Russian deal by "buying" the weapons and paying extra. But the Russians refused the Qatari offer.

Irak will be armed by the USA, and the US will buy them arms they want them to have, the Maliki government will have no say in it. And this will be the rule for the Irak in the next five decade or so.

No. We did.

And for the next century...

 

[Alshawi1234]

Irak will be armed by the USA, and the US will buy them arms they want them to have, the Maliki government will have no say in it. And this will be the rule for the Irak in the next five decade or so.





And for the next century...

Your exaggerating greatly. The US does have influence but certainly not like the influence they have over the gulf states.

Why hasn't the US been able to force Iraq to give all the oil contracts to American companies?

Iraq is depending on a source diversity plan for arming the military. which means they wont be dependent on one country.

 

[Sasquatch]

Is Iraq still using the Babylon tank ? The tank did not fair so well in the war with Iran and first Gulf war, but it was a good attempt.

 

[Alshawi1234]

Iraq requested 30 General dynamics Stryker vehicle.The Stryker models would be equipped with sensors, test equipment and communications gear capable of detecting nuclear fallout or chemical and biological agents.

As well as 37 M88A2 recovery vehicles 29 delivered so Far.

 

[Alshawi1234]

Is Iraq still using the Babylon tank ? The tank did not fair so well in the war with Iran and first Gulf war, but it was a good attempt.

Some old T-72 tanks. they have been upgraded but just being used temporarily and there are not plans to purchase T-72 models anymore.

Iraq has 140 M1A1Tusk. The second batch of another 140 will be ordered soon. there is plans to purchase 700 total. Iraq is also looking for another model which it would purchase about 1000 of in the future. That would make the Tanks total to 1500-2000 by 2022.

 

[Sasquatch]

Some old T-72 tanks. they have been upgraded but just being used temprarly and there are not plans to purchase T-72 models anymore.

Iraq has 140 M1A1Tusk there is plans to purchase 700 total. Iraq is also looking for another model which it would purchase about 1000 of in the future. That would make the Tanks total to 1500-2000 by 2022.

The babylon tank turned out worse then the Monkey Model T-72's Iraq got, Do the Iraqi M1A1's have downgraded armor like Egypt's ?

 

[Armstrong]

@Alshawi1234 : Dude, if I may ask you two questions :

(a) Does the current composition of the Iraqi Military, especially the High Command, consist of guys from Saddam's era ?

(b) How is the US Invasion of Iraq is perceived by the common Iraqi ? Good, Embarrassing or No-Feeling either way !

 

[Alshawi1234]

@Alshami1234 : Dude, if I may ask you two questions :

(a) Does the current composition of the Iraqi Military, especially the High Command, consist of guys from Saddam's era ?

(b) How is the US Invasion of Iraq is perceived by the common Iraqi ? Good, Embarrassing or No-Feeling either way !

A)over 60% of the current army is from the saddam-era army. Iraq has been conscripting thousands of officers from Saddam's era in the past months.

B) The majority of Iraqis are happy that Saddam is gone, but it came at a high cost especially because with mistakes in the american decision making and foreign sponsored terrorism. But right now it is certainly better than Saddam's time.

The babylon tank turned out worse then the Monkey Model T-72's Iraq got, Do the Iraqi M1A1's have downgraded armor like Egypt's ?

Yes they have downgraded armor. But Egypt has signed a contract to upgrade their tanks with reactive armor tiles. Iraq could to the same thing in the future.

The T-72's are known as "moving coffins" in Iraq; they don't have the best reputation.

 

[Ceylal]

Your exaggerating greatly. The US does have influence but certainly not like the influence they have over the gulf states.

The US build air bases in Irak to stay there and as as long they are there, they will dictate the rules, from politics to armements. The contract of the century with the Russian has already been trashed...

 

[Alshawi1234]

The US build air bases in Irak to stay there and as as long they are there, they will dictate the rules, from politics to armements. The contract of the century with the Russian has already been trashed...

Actually the Russian deal hasn't been scrapped. A new delegation was sent and they have agreed on the sales. the delegation that was sent to Russian returned to Iraq a few days ago after changing the details of the previous contract.

The US doesn't have Air bases in Iraq. I think you are confusing Iraq for the colony of Qatar or Kuwait. There are a few thousand US Advisors and trainers in Iraq but no permanent Military bases.

 

[Alshawi1234]

Iraq uses UAV's to search for terrorist hideouts in the desert. Its in Arabic but shows some of the terrorist camps in the desert.

 

[Sasquatch]

A

Yes they have downgraded armor. But Egypt has signed a contract to upgrade their tanks with reactive armor tiles. Iraq could to the same thing in the future.

The T-72's are known as "moving coffins" in Iraq; they don't have the best reputation.

Thanks Alshami1234 great info. The Dogfights Iraq had with the Americans were incredible heard all about it. Might I ask you about the future of the Iraqi air force ? Does Iraq plan on buying any twin engine fighters the Su27, Su30, or Su35 from Russia ?

 

[Alshawi1234]

Thanks Alshami1234 great info. The Dogfights Iraq had with the Americans were incredible heard all about it. Might I ask you about the future of the Iraqi air force ? Does Iraq plan on buying any twin engine fighters the Su27, Su30, or Su35 from Russia ?

Sadly the US dominated all the Air fights with the Iraqis Air force. During the 2003 all the aircraft were either buried or sent to Iran (by Saddam) in order to save them from destruction. Iran refused to return them and the buried ones have become obsolete now and will probably wont be used again. The latest planned contract with Russia include two types of aircrafts which "haven't been exported by Russia before"

The MI 28 is one of them and the second one may be MIG 35. There may be plans to get the Su30 or Su35 but nothing official yet.