The Iraqi Armed Forces

[Ceylal]

he has a problem with our army because he always feel small when he see our army or compare his army to ours you will find him almost in any topic about Egypt if it were algria that have the rafales and fremm they would be the best in the world

Well we may be small, but we have a heck of package between our legs, a backbone, a will , a stamina and..Something Egypt lacks badly...Remember, it is our smallness that saved your greatness...in face of a smaller bully..that broke your nose in 48, give you 2 black eyes and a concussion in 56, lowered your pants and raped you in 67, and made you willingly bend over in 73...in the last two we provided with bandages for your pain, gas bottle for your houses, and kept your skies safe , so you can recover from your humiliation unmolested by the bully....
In 2010, we as a small , showed Mubarak and his clique , what the definition of a great army when he planned to send 900 of his paratrooper as fan to Oum Durban to punish fan and intimidate the national football team, Algerian took and repatriated 40,000 fan in 48 hours..and parked a squadron of SU30MKA in Sudan , ready for any Egyptian's impropriety.

There is absolutely nobody who feels this way about Egypt

Than you need to google.....

No one owes these non-victims anything. As soon as the Islamic world accepts that (which will *never* happen), political progress is possible.

It has nothing to do with Islam, its cultural.

 

[Malik Alashter]

Iraqi armed forces is a joke. Iraqi armed forces can't defeat rag tag militias like Isis which numbers 11000 foot soldiers what a joke with billions of dollars of budget Iraq can't defeat Isis. This is a biggest joke of human history these bastards unprofessional Iraqi soldiers dance in the battle field instead of doing their jobs defending their honour and dignity which sadly Iraqis don't have . Iraq is a small American colony thanks to al Maliki . . . .

This guy @MEAGAN FOXSS has a problem with Iraq.

First thing First: The Iraqi Army lead by baathist as generals. Second The soldiers in the new Iraqi army serve in their provinces. Third Iraqi Army never trained or armed in a serious way thanks to america why because they were their for a decade they didn't do what they have to do.

Now what happen is that the governor of Mosul betrayed his country and his own people for the qataris the main goal was to topple the shiite rule as that was not accepted by the arabs neither the west!. 70% of the army in Mosul were sunnis arabs and kurds they are the one who give up their weapons.

Now tens of thousand of baathist in Mosul province are the one who capture the city and the same thing happen in Tikreet and Ramadi.

The baathist never give up the goal of regaining power in Iraq as that would please the arab and the west!.

If you are one innocent you should know and watched that Iraqis liberated Tikreet and most of the Ramadi but all their operations are on hold due to American pressure on Abbadi why they do that I don't know they have their own reasons but Iraqis can wipe out isis within a month from the whole of the country.

I don't know if you are Russians or Pakis so I answer you the right way till then till you become a man and reveal your self I can't tell anything respecting both nations.

 

[Ceylal]

algria that have the rafales and fremm they would be the best in

If Algeria wanted the Rafales, the Fremm, the F18, the mistrals..she would have had them with no sweat...Sarkozy came and offered us all arms store that France make, The american DOD during Bush tenure came with the F18's, several month ago, Holland in his last visit proposed to Bouteflika , the Rafales and one mistral in order to address three problems , a reelection of Holland, a sale of a non salable idem and an end of venemous relation between Algeria and a GCC country. Algeria refused all, not Bouteflika and his team..Algeria refused... after Egypt was used as a dumping ground for the US Arizona junk yard, you want fear any better with the French who's government is directed from Tel Aviv, and it will be worse if Sarkozy get re-elected, Holland has no chance in hell to lead France again..

 

[Aestu]

too bad it was a great army back in the day , i hope they can make it again i have faith in iraqi people

When? You mean back when it was murdering Persian women and children, before they actually had to fight the men of the Iranian and American armies and got put to flight like chickens?

This guy @MEAGAN FOXSS Third Iraqi Army never trained or armed in a serious way thanks to america why because they were their for a decade they didn't do what they have to do.

Arab armies don't "do" serious training. I know people who have tried to train Iraqis. They don't show up for training or simply steal the equipment they are given.

Now what happen is that the governor of Mosul betrayed his country and his own people for the qataris the main goal was to topple the shiite rule as that was not accepted by the arabs neither the west!. 70% of the army in Mosul were sunnis arabs and kurds they are the one who give up their weapons. Now tens of thousand of baathist in Mosul province are the one who capture the city and the same thing happen in Tikreet and Ramadi. The baathist never give up the goal of regaining power in Iraq as that would please the arab and the west!.

Hmm... so the Shi'ites want Iran to take over the country and the Sunnis can't fight like men, so who does that leave?

The US aggressively tried to de-Baathify the country and it's widely regarded in the US as a tremendous mistake because no one else was qualified to lead these people.

If you are one innocent you should know and watched that Iraqis liberated Tikreet and most of the Ramadi but all their operations are on hold due to American pressure on Abbadi why they do that I don't know they have their own reasons but Iraqis can wipe out isis within a month from the whole of the country.

And Israel and Iran, too, I bet.

 

[Azeri440]

Algeria's air force is really scared shitless of the EAF...

well they should be , Egypt's air force is superior in every way , from numbers to experience

 

[Saifullah]

So you're saying Pakistan produced a jet because they couldn't produce the electronics for a missile system?
Please show me where.

I didn't know that dumb you can be. So you are saying Pakistan should have develop the missiles instead of developing the Aircraft ,Armament for their aircraft and shouldn't have produced it in numbers. Then what the hell you suggest throw the missiles with hands ? because there was no spares no support for Engine or Aircraft which was sanctioned and would have sticked with their 40 Non fly able F16. You are quite a dumb if you think that.

 

[Aestu]

I didn't know that dumb you can be. So you are saying Pakistan should have develop the missiles instead of developing the Aircraft ,Armament for their aircraft and shouldn't have produced it in numbers. Then what the hell you suggest throw the missiles with hands ? because there was no spares no support for Engine or Aircraft which was sanctioned and would have sticked with their 40 Non fly able F16. You are quite a dumb if you think that.

Yes...that's exactly what I'm saying... it's what Israel does. They have the blueprints for the IAI Lavi, which is a better aircraft anyway, but in practice it's cheaper and easier to just use the F-16. They equip these planes with their own missiles. Any plane is only ever a weapons platform. In practical terms, you can put whatever you want on it.

Meanwhile, Iran is still using the contemporaneous F-14. These have not been disabled. Therefore, clearly, it's possible to disable the protections on American planes by replacing the avionics. Presumably the Iranians equip their F-14s and even older planes with non-NATO missiles, whatever they make or buy from Russia or China.

So, we agree the issue is the avionics and weapons systems on the F-16 and not the airframe itself. Right?

If you can't make your own avionics, why make your own plane? What kind of avionics and weapons systems would you put in it? If the avionics and weapons systems are unsatisfactory, and you presumably have the means to make your own, why not just do that?

 

[Malik Alashter]

so the Shi'ites want Iran to take over the country and the Sunnis can't fight like men,

This tell me that you are either misinformed or you are an arab with false flag I don't even need to answer you after this.

no one else was qualified to lead these people

These people taught you and your whole race how to write and these people taught you how to clean your filth these people have a history you and all your European race don't have not even 10% of it.

 

[Ceylal]

well they should be , Egypt's air force is superior in every way , from numbers to experience

Don't make me laugh...I laughed so much I chocked yesterday...
in number of flying hummingbirds...Pilots experience where? Without Algeria's help they wouldn't have had an air force (she replaced all her crafts destroyed by Israel) and without Algeria Air force Pilots, it wouldn't be an Egypt to speak of...And we were talking about the seventies...Now, they didn't even make the grades...just another Arab air force.

 

[Aestu]

These people taught you and your whole race how to write and these people taught you how to clean your filth these people have a history you and all your European race don't have not even 10% of it.

Arabic is not related to the Romance languages, and Romans and Jews were building thermae and mikvehs for thousands of years before the Arabs stole Byzantine/Persian technology.

None of which has anything to do with the topic, but suffice to say, you're obviously you're not willing to look at the fundamental reasons the Iraqi Army can't get its act together.

 

[Azeri440]

Don't make me laugh...I laughed so much I chocked yesterday...
in number of flying hummingbirds...Pilots experience where? Without Algeria's help the wouldn't have an air force (she replaced all her craft destroyed by Israel) and without Algeria Air force Pilots, it wouldn't be an Egypt to speak of...And we were talking about the seventies...Now, they didn't even make the grades...just another Arab air force.

egypt has 200+ F-16s along with AWACs they will eat your entire fleet for breakfast

the only advantage your Su-30s have over F-16 is the radar , AWACs compensates for that
meaning in BVR combat you don't stand a chance

when I say experience , I am talking about decades of experience in F-16s while your pilots are new to their Su-30s

 

[Aestu]

egypt has 200+ F-16s along with AWACs they will eat your entire fleet for breakfast...when I say experience , I am talking about decades of experience in F-16s while your pilots are new to their Su-30s

It only takes a few months to get fully rated in a new aircraft, something that happens all the time. Past that, it comes down to the quality of the human material and how well they're trained. The marginal benefit from additional years of experience with a given aircraft is beyond marginal.

Numbers do not and have never meant anything so far as Arab airforces are concerned.

 

[Azeri440]

It only takes a few months to get fully rated in a new aircraft, something that happens all the time. Past that, it comes down to the quality of the human material and how well they're trained. The marginal benefit from additional years of experience with a given aircraft is beyond marginal.

Numbers do not and have never meant anything so far as Arab airforces are concerned.

there is a difference between getting used to the aircraft and having a thousand + hours in one
when it comes to the military, Egypt isn't your average Arab nation

 

[Aestu]

there is a difference between getting used to the aircraft and having a thousand + hours in one
when it comes to the military, Egypt isn't your average Arab nation

Quantify those claims please.

1) Give me an example of sheer experience being more significant in kill ratios than talent + training + gear

2) Explain how Egypt's military is any different than that of Syria, Baathist Iraq, or really any third-world nation:
a) quantity over quality
b) nepotism
c) involved in politics
d) no domestic R&D
e) experienced at parade ground maneuvers, dropping bombs on insurgents, and murdering women and children
f) in spite (or perhaps because) of grandiose claims, has never won a war against a non-Arab opponent

 

[Malik Alashter]

there is a difference between getting used to the aircraft and having a thousand + hours in one
when it comes to the military, Egypt isn't your average Arab nation

Egypt, Syria, Algeria and Iraq aren't the average Arab except Iraq fail victim to Saddam regime who were caring only and only for his rule other wise Iraqis were the toughest equation.

Just to remind you Iraqis preserved Damascus from the Israeli invasion in 1973 and Iraqis now helping to preserve Damascus from Takfirees.