The Great Game Changer: Belt and Road Intiative (BRI; OBOR)

[T-123456]

An alliance between China and Russian Federation is improbable and impractical as they both have geopolitical interests. In fact, both are competitors for sphere of interest in Central Asia as well as in the Middle East, South Asia and Africa in regards to military defense sales. They are partners out of necessity. Ergo, the recent energy pact Russia had with China was due to the European sanctioning of Russia due to the debacle in Ukraine. Russia, out of financial necessity, had turned to China to offset this. Both still are tense in regards to territorial frontiers.

Russia will remain non-aligned. As she has defense sales partners that have known territorial qualms with China. Ergo, Viet Nam, India.

The talks of a Russian - China alliance is as unrealistic as Japan wishing an Imperialist foreign policy.

You could get a big surprise in the future.

 

[terranMarine]

The talks of a Russian - China alliance is as unrealistic as Japan wishing an Imperialist foreign policy.

That settles it Japan will remain US bastard child for the rest of eternity lol

 

[AKIRAKUMA]

Ha ha ha ha ha...another delusional dream of chinese is dead
Time to accept the fact that Russia wants rather a military alliance with us, like the old days between Soviet Union and Vietnam.

Incompetent people only delusional,CCCP is die. Then ,what are the benefits of an alliance with Vietnam?

 

[Aepsilons]

You could get a big surprise in the future.

I remain conservative in this.

That settles it Japan will remain US bastard child for the rest of eternity lol

That is your subjective opinion, dear. The Art of Diplomacy is to bide time and find a position of strength.

Ha ha ha ha ha...another delusional dream of chinese is dead
Time to accept the fact that Russia wants rather a military alliance with us, like the old days between Soviet Union and Vietnam.

Let's be practical, dear. Russia will remain non-aligned. Their foreign policy depends on a 'Russia-First' initiative. Others are client partners.

 

[terranMarine]

That is your subjective opinion, dear. The Art of Diplomacy is to bide time and find a position of strength.

But i thought i was just putting it in a simple form of what you just said

 

[Aepsilons]

I am ok my friend.

In general I have a favourable view on China and Chinese people. what I dislike is arrogance and aggression.
I have Chinese in the family: an uncle coming from Hainan island, a aunt from Chinatown, a study friend from Shanghai, a beautiful female piano teacher from Taiwan. my wife attends a chinese teaching class.

life in Germany is ok but boring. the weather has rooms for improvement.

I agree. One must divorce personal relationships / personal friendships with political and national interests. Good to see that you have strong filial links to China. Hopefully the summers in Germany aren't too hot!

See you around, tomodachi.

 

[Jlaw]

Ru and China are too big to get very close to each other.

Russia and China are alpha males.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

An alliance between China and Russian Federation is improbable and impractical as they both have geopolitical interests. In fact, both are competitors for sphere of interest in Central Asia as well as in the Middle East, South Asia and Africa in regards to military defense sales. They are partners out of necessity. Ergo, the recent energy pact Russia had with China was due to the European sanctioning of Russia due to the debacle in Ukraine. Russia, out of financial necessity, had turned to China to offset this. Both still are tense in regards to territorial frontiers.

Russia will remain non-aligned. As she has defense sales partners that have known territorial qualms with China. Ergo, Viet Nam, India.

The talks of a Russian - China alliance is as unrealistic as Japan wishing an Imperialist foreign policy.

China-Russia relation is more as equal partner than a subordinate relation as Japan with US, we have never claimed to be an alliance. At equal partnership we're more interested to find a commun interest and avoid to engage on competing each other to be at the mercy of US.

here few examples of our cooperation wordlwide: In central Asia, China pursue purely economic, oil and gaz while Russia is more about Politic but our commun interest is keep US away from central Asia which gave birth of SCO. In Africa China and Russia cooperate to build dam and do infrastructure project. In Middile Easy we both defend Syria, In South America Xi and Putin went there not to compete but to do business and cozy nations in American's backyard. In South Asia Russia sell arm to India, we sell arm to Pakistan, there again we're not compete each other

China and Russia dont need to form alliance to create fear amount those fragile heart nation and we still get the same effect unofficially.

 

[Aepsilons]

China and Russia dont need to form alliance to create fear amount those fragile heart nation and we still get the same effect unofficially.

An alliance between Russia and China does not serve Russia's interest. Russia is non-aligned and actually have differing geopolitical goals with China. So thus they remain energy client partners.

Thanks.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

An alliance between Russia and China does not serve Russia's interest. Russia is non-aligned and actually have differing geopolitical goals with China. So thus they remain energy client partners.

Thanks.

All depend the development of the international situation, if US is trying to corner Russia and try to push it to the edge of the cliff than you will never know.

 

[Aepsilons]

All depend the development of the international situation, if US is trying to corner Russia and try to push it to the edge of the cliff than you will never know.

Objectively analyze the statement you just shared. And ponder to yourself if that would be to China's strategic interest to have a weakened Russia. The art of nation states and the cunning required would surprise you, dear.

Do consider the competition both Russia and China have given each other over the control of Central Asia, let alone defense competition in the world stage.

Thanks.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Objectively analyze the statement you just shared. And ponder to yourself if that would be to China's strategic interest to have a weakened Russia. The art of nation states and the cunning required would surprise you, dear.

Do consider the competition both Russia and China have given each other over the control of Central Asia, let alone defense competition in the world stage.

Thanks.

A weak Russia will serve more EU and US interest which might be used against China, as how US use Japan, we rather prefer a strong neutral Russia.

 

[cirr]

Western Sanctions See Russia Looking to China for Military, Aerospace Components


Russian-Chinese Trade Contracts

© RIA Novosti. Sergey Guneev

10:12 06/08/2014

MOSCOW, August 6 (RIA Novosti) - Russian aerospace and military-industrial enterprises will purchase electronic components worth several billion dollars from China, Izvestia reported Wednesday, referencing a source close to Roscosmos, Russia’s Federal Space Agency.

“We do work with the China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation (CASIC) … Its institutions have already offered us a few dozen items, representing a direct alternative to, or slight modifications of the elements we will no longer be able to acquire because of the sanctions introduced by the United States,” Izvestia reported.

The newspaper also noted that the Russian aerospace and military industries do not use components produced in China at the moment.

“Over the next two, two-and-a-half years, until Russian manufacturers put the necessary space and military electronic components into production, plans call for the purchase of such items from China amounting to several billion dollars” Izvestia reported, quoting a source, close to Roscosmos.

Citing the source, the newspaper added that that 18 representatives of 12 CASIC institutions engaged in the development and production of electronic components will visit Moscow to take part in a special workshop for Russian manufacturers in August. A parallel workshop will be held in St. Petersburg.

“Establishing large-scale cooperation with Chinese manufacturers could become the first step toward forming a technology alliance involving BRICS member states,” Izvestia reported, quoting Andrei Ionin, chief analyst at GLONASS Union.

On August 1, The European Union and the United States imposed a new set of economic sanctions against Russia, linking it to the ongoing conflict in Ukraine. The sanctions are designed to limit access to European capital markets for a number of Russian banks. Earlier, Washington had slapped sanctions on several Russian defense industry and energy companies.

 

[eazzy]

Good. US trying to isolate Russia, reinforce China Russia ties.

 

[Echo_419]

Western Sanctions See Russia Looking to China for Military, Aerospace Components


Russian-Chinese Trade Contracts

© RIA Novosti. Sergey Guneev

10:12 06/08/2014

MOSCOW, August 6 (RIA Novosti) - Russian aerospace and military-industrial enterprises will purchase electronic components worth several billion dollars from China, Izvestia reported Wednesday, referencing a source close to Roscosmos, Russia’s Federal Space Agency.

“We do work with the China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation (CASIC) … Its institutions have already offered us a few dozen items, representing a direct alternative to, or slight modifications of the elements we will no longer be able to acquire because of the sanctions introduced by the United States,” Izvestia reported.

The newspaper also noted that the Russian aerospace and military industries do not use components produced in China at the moment.

“Over the next two, two-and-a-half years, until Russian manufacturers put the necessary space and military electronic components into production, plans call for the purchase of such items from China amounting to several billion dollars” Izvestia reported, quoting a source, close to Roscosmos.

Citing the source, the newspaper added that that 18 representatives of 12 CASIC institutions engaged in the development and production of electronic components will visit Moscow to take part in a special workshop for Russian manufacturers in August. A parallel workshop will be held in St. Petersburg.

“Establishing large-scale cooperation with Chinese manufacturers could become the first step toward forming a technology alliance involving BRICS member states,” Izvestia reported, quoting Andrei Ionin, chief analyst at GLONASS Union.

On August 1, The European Union and the United States imposed a new set of economic sanctions against Russia, linking it to the ongoing conflict in Ukraine. The sanctions are designed to limit access to European capital markets for a number of Russian banks. Earlier, Washington had slapped sanctions on several Russian defense industry and energy companies.

Looks like US-Russia sanction war is benefiting the Chinese most