The Great Game Changer: Belt and Road Intiative (BRI; OBOR)

[ChineseTiger1986]

my friend, the only way out is NOT to change the constitution, NOR expand the power to a dictatorship.
NO, you must end the support to the separistism movement in eastern ukraine.

Nope, Ukraine is Russia's core national interests.

And it was the West who created this mess to provoke Russia.

Deep cooperation, not integration. We had integration in Western economics after 1991 and you see how it ends for us.

I mean a FTA agreement like China has with the Asia-Pacific nations.

 

[vostok]

my friend, the only way out is NOT to change the constitution, NOR expand the power to a dictatorship.
NO, you must end the support to the separistism movement in eastern ukraine.

Ukraine has nothing to do with it. West in any case would attack Russia, as "Carthage must be destroyed." On the contrary, Russia should restore full economic sovereignty and include Novorossia as Novorossiyan Federal District.
You can not go in the wake of the West. Or fight against them - or be destroyed. Russia has no other choice.

 

[cnleio]

my friend, the only way out is NOT to change the constitution, NOR expand the power to a dictatorship.
NO, you must end the support to the separistism movement in eastern ukraine.

LOL ... that's a deal, but today Russia end support to eastern ukraine, tomorrow Ukraine join NATO ... then big problem coming. Don't forget Crimea !

The only good idea, is West Ukraine vs East Ukraine or a pro-Russian president in Kiev city of Ukraine.

 

[somsak]

@vostok
I do not see any future for Russia against the west in 30-50 years future. Your country is getting smaller and smaller on both gdp, no. population, and tech.ology.
Im no offense dude. I just say whay i think. What do you say?
Is it not the case?

 

[cnleio]

Ukraine Civil War == 1950s Korea War == 1960s Vietnam War, BOSS from both sides behind it.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

LOL ... that's a deal, but today Russia end support to eastern ukraine, tomorrow Ukraine join NATO ... then big problem coming. Don't forget Crimea !

The only good idea, is West Ukraine vs East Ukraine or a pro-Russian president in Kiev city of Ukraine.

The only way is to let western Ukraine vs eastern Ukraine last forever.

If Russia has annexed the eastern Ukraine, then the western Ukraine will surely join NATO, so NATO will still push forward for several hundred kilometers, which is still not good for Russia.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

@vostok
I do not see any future for Russia against the west in 30-50 years future. Your country is getting smaller and smaller on both gdp, no. population, and tech.ology.
Im no offense dude. I just say whay i think. What do you say?
Is it not the case?

Russia will always be one of the most powerful countries on Earth.

They can hold off the West easily, and have proven it in Crimea.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

@vostok
I do not see any future for Russia against the west in 30-50 years future. Your country is getting smaller and smaller on both gdp, no. population, and tech.ology.
Im no offense dude. I just say whay i think. What do you say?
Is it not the case?

With nukes and natural resources, Russia can surely survive on its own.

But the West is now planning to keep them poor and backward forever.

Ukraine Civil War == 1950s Korea War == 1960s Vietnam War, BOSS from both sides behind it.

Except Russia now got economically ganged up by the West.

 

[cnleio]

Except Russia now got economically ganged up by the West.

LOL ... in 1950s and 1960s, USSR was a superpower and China wasn't a member of U.N. But in that time Chinese we can living in poor to support a proxy war, now problem is whether today Russian willing to lower current living conditons to support East Ukraine ? If Russian can't, i see Mr Putin will kick out from the Kremlin.

It called WILL OF THE STATE !

 

[somsak]

West will use low intensity war to create civil war to topple head of government and turn them a western vassel state. Nuke can not prevent such scenario.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

LOL ... in 1950s and 1960s, USSR was a superpower and China wasn't a member of U.N. But in that time Chinese we can living in poor to support a proxy war, now problem is whether today Russian willing to lower current living conditons to support East Ukraine ? If Russian can't, i see Mr Putin will kick out from the Kremlin.

It called WILL OF THE STATE !

Putin cannot let the current situation to last more than 3 years, otherwise it is going to be dangerous for his regime.

The current free fall must be controlled. If it continues, then many people will eventually outburst their dissatisfaction against the government.

 

[Viet]

LOL ... that's a deal, but today Russia end support to eastern ukraine, tomorrow Ukraine join NATO ... then big problem coming. Don't forget Crimea !

The only good idea, is West Ukraine vs East Ukraine or a pro-Russian president in Kiev city of Ukraine.

the west can accept russian annexation of the crimea, but NEVER the eastern ukraine.

russia needs to be realistic. by the way, china should not support separatism, otherwise your provinces xinjang and tibet can become increasingly a target for such separatism movements.

 

[NiceGuy]

Deep cooperation, not integration. We had integration in Western economics after 1991 and you see how it ends for us.

Russia can help VN to unify sub-Mekong region like what Soviet help VN from 1979-1988. The united sub-Mekong region can buy more oil , more weapons and give more help back to Russia.

Just persuade China that the strong united sub-Mekong wont be their trouble, so they wont ruin our plan like in 1979 .
VN is always the best friend of Russia

 

[Viet]

With nukes and natural resources, Russia can surely survive on its own.

But the West is now planning to keep them poor and backward forever.
Except Russia now got economically ganged up by the West.

sure, russia will survive. but the dream of returning to a superpower is burst.

before any chinese begin to scold, I don´t want to see it. a strong russia is better for vietnam than a weak. russia is a traditional friend and ally of vietnam, a counterbalance to china. if russia weakens, you will begin to bully more vietnam.

 

[Götterdämmerung]

China knows very well that after Russia, she will be the next target.

But!

Russia needs to do her homework as well. Putin needs first to fire the central bank director Nabiullina and replace all the members of the board. She is a member of the fifth column. The central bank should be completely nationalised and be lead by S. Glazyev.

Putin, although a socialist by heart, still has a lot of (too much in my opinion) admiration of American style free capitalism. That is also part of the problem.

What irritates me but I'm somehow not surprised anymore are the Viet chirping in with their petty minds. It's like the ship is sinking and the rats are just thinking how to steal a piece of cheese out of the galley. Pathetic!