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To counterbalance us with Russia is better than to counterbalance us with the US.

Anyway, you can't just turn into a US puppet, since they will first set up a new color revolution to topple your undemocratic government first.

There will be a price to pay if you wanna become their puppet.
why should the US want another government in vietnam?
americans used to cooperate with anyone that fits their national interests, from democracy to dictatorship.

I know china does not want vietnam to cozy up to america.

A whole Ukraine nation including Crimea ... even West allow, the Ukraine will say NO, the conflict will continue.
crimea is a lost case for ukraine.
the whole mess begins with the support of russia to eastern ukraine separatists. putin overplays his cards.
 
why should the US want another government in vietnam?
americans used to cooperate with anyone that fits their national interests, from democracy to dictatorship.

I know china does not want vietnam to cozy up to america.

Never underestimate their brutality.

Even Gaddafi decided to swear his allegiance, then why they will go after him?

Gaddafi has pissed China off since 2006 in order to appease the West, but they still killed him like a dog.
 
I am saying smaller w.r.t the west. friend.
Can you give me the fundamental strength that russia will have, to reverse the trend?
West itself does not become stronger. The share of the west in the global economy falls every year. In a military sense, only the United States pose a threat to Russia. Russian army could win Europe in a couple of months, as their armies - it's somewhere between anti-terrorist units and colonial corpus.
In the near future leadership of Russia will have to make a difficult decision - to take control of the economy and finances, President will be forced to take some sort of dictatorial powers.
Russia's economy is heavily underestimated. The potential of the Russian economy under the correct leadership is not inferior to the United States.
 
BRICS bank seem dont help much to stop the fall of Rouble.

It is a development bank. Besides, Russia does not need handouts or emergency funds. It just needs more business with non-Western countries.

Also, BRICS Development Bank is still a pretty new organization.

Those craving ruble collapse aren’t immune from aftershocks
Published time: December 17, 2014 01:25, Russia Today

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RIA Novosti / Vladimir Sergeev


Russia is enduring a 'textbook' emerging market crisis. Only the economically illiterate or the stupid would either gloat or find fantastical reasons for it. Unfortunately, we are learning that many media figures and analysts fit both categories.

First a hands up. One person imagined a panic in Sochi yesterday and he wasn’t Russian. It was me. The experience was also a useful example of how counterproductive Twitter can be. Reading a hyperactive feed, I supposed that fear was stalking the streets as the ruble tumbled relentlessly.

There’s one ATM machine – to my knowledge – that disperses Euros and Dollars in downtown Sochi not far from the famous beach party zone. Following the Twitter information overload, I anticipated either a lengthy queue or that the machine would be out of order. Cash dispensers have a nasty habit of refusing to work when you need them most. However, this one was operative.

Outside, there was no line, just a young couple eating ice creams (it was 17 degrees Celsius) and a couple of empty parked cars. Inside the branch, there were 4 staff and 2 customers. No panic, not even a mild tremble.

Nevertheless, at a currency exchange closer to the sea, the man running the show told me he was out of Euros and Dollars. “One guy came down with a huge amount of money this morning and cleaned me out.” He offered me some British Sterling instead, I demurred: “He didn’t want pounds either. Why does nobody ever want pounds?”

The reason for the relative calm is that Russians don't feel a tangible crisis, not yet anyway. Despite months of tumult, prices haven’t risen substantially and the shops are fully stocked. Of course, this situation could change if the decline accelerates. Russians are also, more than other Europeans, conditioned to economic shocks. There have been at least 3 panics in the past 25 years, the most recent in 2008.

Scratch away the misinformed cant, wishful thinking and scaremongering and it’s clear that Russia is in the midst of an emerging market crisis. Russia is not a mature economy. Less than a quarter century since the demise of communism, it's a late comer to the capitalist scene. Business practices are at least a generation behind the likes of Germany and experienced economists are thin on the ground.

Additionally, many 'new' Russians don't have the same attitude to responsible saving that their parents did, another side-effect of decades of frequent instability.

Since 1999, under President’s Putin and Medvedev, Russian living standards have mushroomed. During this period, Russians attained a level of affluence and prosperity unprecedented in the country’s chequered history. Citizens have become accustomed to a standard of living their grandparents could only have dreamed about. Of course, this feeling of wealth is now in peril and conditions are almost certain to precipitate.

On Twitter, many were rejoicing in this fact. Some of them are the very same moralistic types who pretend they both care for and want to help Russian people. Their current schadenfreude exposes their true motives. Times of need generally expose false friends.

The Washington Post led the charge. This is the same Washington that serves as the capital of a country which 6 years ago imploded and took the rest of the world down with it.

The Ruble is falling because the oil price is plummeting. Markets feel there is a miscorrelation between assets and liabilities. The energy price decline means less dollars to support the liabilities, so the Ruble is squeezed as principals try to secure greenbacks. Additionally, Russia’s pre-existing culture of capital flight exacerbates the slide. Linking these is really not rocket science.

The Central Bank in Moscow feels forced to hike interest rates and spend foreign exchange reserves in an attempt to arrest the currency downturn. Neither policy has been successful so far. If nothing changes in this regard, the economy will hurtle into free-fall. This is the tragic reality. Ordinary Russians will suffer the most, the rich won’t be skipping dinners or other essentials. If you don’t believe me, check out Paul Krugman, the Nobel Laureate, who concurs.

The pain that, quite obviously, awaits decent hard-working people should be enough reason not to crow. However, the gloaters might be in for in a rather more personal shock down the line. Anybody who believes this crisis will remain ensconced in a Moscow bubble is seriously deluded. In a globalised world, what initially appears like a local problem can quickly become a much wider contagion.

Pre-crisis, Russia’s economy was somewhere around 4% of global GDP and whole sectors, particularly in Europe, are reliant on exports to it. Furthermore, the fiscal health of central Asian states is worryingly beholden to their giant neighbor. If Moscow is catching a cold, Yerevan and Astana are in danger of pneumonia.



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RIA Novosti / Valery Melnikov


Struggling nations like Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia depend on the Russian labor market as a pressure valve for their unemployed and remittances are vital. In the more prosperous part of Europe, some German auto manufacturers, Italian clothing designers and French retailers, to name just a few, are sustained by Russia. China won't be getting off scot free either.

As economist Dr Constantin Gurdgiev of Trinity College, Dublin puts it, "Russian imports of goods and services are likely to contract by between 12 and 15 percent in 2015, with much of this effect being driven by a decline in capital goods and consumer goods imported traditionally from Europe. In addition, financial exposures to Russia run high in Austria, Italy, France and the UK. While the European banks have seen some strengthening of their balance sheets in recent months, another adverse shock to their assets is not something they would like to contemplate.”

"If Russia opts for capital controls and/or imposes a holiday on repayment of larger debt tranches coming due in early 2015, the European financial system will receive another shock as much of Russian banks and corporate funding was underwritten in Europe," Dr Gurdgiev warns.

Russia’s Central Bank may now be forced to introduce capital controls. This will, at least partially, prevent companies and households from a further Ruble sell-off. However, such a measure would also cause the economy to contract further.

With sanctions still enforced by western nations, who have a hold on global finance not proportional to their size, many other corrective avenues are unavailable to the Kremlin.

Russia’s economic malaise is not funny. Nor is it any reason to celebrate, even for the country’s biggest detractors. The phrase “be careful what you wish for” comes to mind. There is nothing cheerful about current events and very few, if any, countries will be immune from the effects.

Nor is Russia alone in feeling the brunt of the oil-price collapse. Venezuela is convulsed by disorder and suffers shortages of even basic goods. The Middle East is choc-a-bloc with countries that need high crude values to protect their economies. Further volatility in that region opens up a Pandora’s Box.

In simple economic terms, everyone around the world would benefit from Russia, and other oil-rich nations, stepping off the financial precipice as soon as possible. Even the gloaters who despise Russia's current government enough to wish ill-will on ordinary folk they auspiciously care about. These guys don't care for anything or anyone in Russia. They only care for their own narrow ends.

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GOOD NEWS!

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The Russian ruble began to recover against the US dollar and euro early Wednesday, going some way to compensate for a 20 percent drop on Monday.

The currency has started to bounce back, trading at 66.70 against the US dollar and 84 against the euro at 11:00am MSC Wednesday, data from the Moscow Exchange shows. After the Central Bank of Russia (CBR) reportedly intervened early Tuesday morning, the ruble jumped 4 percent against the USD, briefly trading at 62.77 per 1 USD.

RT Business.
 
Never underestimate their brutality.

Even Gaddafi decided to swear his allegiance, then why they will go after him?

Gaddafi has pissed China off since 2006 in order to appease the West, but they still killed him like a dog.
I know of US acrocities and rudness. they only go after their interests. also, I am aware of US brutality in vietnam. my father once served in the southern vietnamese navy.

but the people in vietnam also know, americans like many other foreigners as the french, japanese and british they come and go, but the chinese are ALWAYS there. we need protection.
 
I am aware of US brutality in vietnam. my father once served in the southern vietnamese navy.

but the people in vietnam also know, americans like many other foreigners as the french, japanese and british they come and go, but the chinese are ALWAYS there. we need protection.

At least China won't kill someone for fun.

If someone like Gaddafi is trying to surrender to China, then China definitely won't kill him for fun.

Gaddafi has listened the advice from his son to pledge the allegiance to the West, yet the West still killed him like a dog.

So you wanna really dance with the wolves (the West) over the big man (China)?

Even the non-Chinese members have seen that you guys are not really smart compared to us.
 
Russia dont wanna integrate wt China coz he got lots of experience from 'integrating' wt the West, so we just remind them that Russia could ally wt VN again like in Soviet time

Do our plan of unifying sub-Mekong region still scare ur lovely China ?? :pop:

WTF? Reading your post causes brain damages. :crazy:
 
China knows very well that after Russia, she will be the next target.

But!

Russia needs to do her homework as well. Putin needs first to fire the central bank director Nabiullina and replace all the members of the board. She is a member of the fifth column. The central bank should be completely nationalised and be lead by S. Glazyev.

Putin, although a socialist by heart, still has a lot of (too much in my opinion) admiration of American style free capitalism. That is also part of the problem.

What irritates me but I'm somehow not surprised anymore are the Viet chirping in with their petty minds. It's like the ship is sinking and the rats are just thinking how to steal a piece of cheese out of the galley. Pathetic!
no, we are leaving the sinking ship. I wonder how you come to such conclusion?
 
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crimea is a lost case for ukraine.
the whole mess begins with the support of russia to eastern ukraine separatists. putin overplays his cards.
LOL ... it sounds like NanSha / Spratly islands in SCS also can become a lost case for Vietnam, much smaller than that Crimea ... LOL !
 
vietnam is not the topic. germany is the forerunner of imposing sanctions on russia. forgotten?

ORly? Why don't you tell that to yourself and your Viet compatriots?

I know, we are an occupied country and if you have followed the reaction in the comment section of the NATO-controlled media, you would have known that the majority is against the sanctions.
 
The natural resources indeed, but the military technology not much.

True, China has a relatively integrated industrial system, unlike other developing countries, China has great potential to utilize this advantage to develop advanced military tech. I am curious in which field has China been better than Russia? The navy?
 
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