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Once we were proud of our hospitality....now we are being rude to foreigners in our section....
The Fight against PKK Terrorism
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True spoken.
What the heck?!?!!? They used it for the fist time as far as I know. Paramotor was also seized in Claw operations in Hakurk 2019.View attachment 651993 View attachment 651994 pkk paramotor forces shot down
From haftanin claw tiger, claw eagle op.
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You better delete this before mods come after you. Bloody gory images are not appreciated here.View attachment 651993 View attachment 651994 pkk paramotor forces shot down
From haftanin claw tiger, claw eagle op.
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What about Syrians ?
If they are Syrian or Muslim or Muslim Turkish you become devil while you behave nice if they are christians or infedels. This is double faced...
If you annoyed to been rude against westerns, Go west johny go.
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They don’t talk about Muslims or Christians. Where did you read it?
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Hayir, serefsizlik degildir. Tam tersi bu teror'e cok agir darbedir. Terror'un en guclu silahi propaganda ve algi yonetimidir (Avrupada sempati kazanma nedenidir). Terror eylemlerinin gayiside budur, yoksa onlarda herkes gibi biliyor teror eylemleriyle bir ulke bolunmez. Ancak destabile olur ve insanlari kandirmak icin algi ve propaganda malzemesi olarak kullanilir. Korku yayilmaya calisilir.
pkk serefsizlerin propagandasini hic analiz ettinmi? Bu terroristlerin propagandasini analiz edersen o zaman o cocuklarin ailelerine kavusmasinin pkk'ya ne kadar buyuk darbe oldugunu daha iyi anlarsin. Boyle olaylar kucumsenecek birsey degil. Hatta simdi bu aileler yadirganiyor, terrorist yetistirmis diye. Ama sunuda anlamamiz lazim, bunlar cocuk yasinda kandiriliyorlar, hatta bazilarini kaciriyorlar. Ailelerde caresiz oluyor boyle durumda, disaridan (yani pkk'dan) baski ve tehdit ediliyorlar. Bu aileleri oyle yildirmaya calisiyorlar.
Bosuna deli kanli dememisler, cocuk yasta insanlari (genel olarak insanlari) kandirmak ve manipule etmek zor birsey degil. Cunku bu kandirma teknikleri ile duygularina karsi oynuyorlar. Duygusal olan insan kolay kandirilir, ve gencler genel olarak daha duygusaldir. Boyle zulum ettiler, soyle zulum ettiler diye asli astari olmayan seylerle insanlari kzidirip kandiriyorlar. Hele cocuk yasta olanlar daha kolay kaniyor. Aileleride her ne kadar istemese istemesin, laf geciremiyorlar.
Boyle ex-pkk'lilar ise, harbiden pismanlik duyup kacanlar, tecrubelerinden dolayi insanlar ayni yanlisa dusmesin diye ibretlik hikayelerini anlatip, baska cocuklarin pkk tarafindan kandirilmasini onluyor. Ve boylece pkk'nin nefesi kesiliyor.
Senin bu yazdigin mesaj'da duygusal bir yerden geliyor, en azindan oyle yansiyor. Ama bu ve boyle tur mesajlar bizim pkk'ya karsi acik verdigimiz anlardan biri. Simdi pkk'li bu mesaji alip her turlu yone carpitip bize karsi kullanmasini cok iyi biliyor. Bu olayda soyle bir yalan soyler mesela: 'sen onlarin gozlerinde her daim terroristsin, bu mesaj'da onun kaniti, cunku onlar Kurtlere boyle davranir. Her Kurt'u terrorist olarak gorur. Sevdiklerine kavusmus kimin umrunda, seni ve senin gibilerini asla sevmezler cunku onlar irkci, fasist' vesayre gibi yalanlarla insanlari kandirmaya calisirlar.
Biz ise sorumluluklarimizin farkinda olup pkk'ya (ve herhangi teror orgutu ve kotu niyetli gruplara) bize karsi kullanabilecek malzeme vermeyelim. Terror'e karsi mucadele bizden, birey olarak basliyor. Bunu asla unutmamamiz gerek. Onun yani sira, biz her davranimisimizla ulkemizi, ailemizi, sevdiklerimizi, uzerimize emegi gecen herkesi temsil ettigimizin farkinda olmamiz lazim ve ona gore hareket etmemiz lazim ki arkamizdan: 'su Turkler, Azeri'ler, vesayre, soyle yada boyle kotu huylari var' diye dusunmesinler.
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Go see a psychiatrist, it should be hard to live with your inferiority complex.
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Bu herif bilerek salağa yatıyor ona kızdım sadece. Bir bakıyorsun dost gibi takılıyor, ondan sonra hiç haberi olmayan bir yabancıymış gibi yorum yapıyor.
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I said it several times there are ways to handle this:
we need mproper programs social, education, government, military..
so begin with this:
-woman rights
kurdish woman are mostly without rights, their social status is bad give them more rights wich are defended by government, media, organisations so that a man cutting their rights off will face social and economical and judicative problems..
school programs.. our scool system is bad
we need to invest in proper schools you dont need only proper teachers but some equipment and good organisation
- no more 3 month of boring vaccation.. cut it to 6 weeks and than give them one in 2 weeks the winter 2 weeks in the spring than 6 weeks in the summer 2 weeks in autumn...
school system must be changed that the pupils get from all sides the correct answers (de PKK program)
- distract the people with football, basketball, judo, and so on (if they are bored on the streets that is the bad thing)
we need kindergardens, we need programs for pupils meeting each other
Media
from gazette to magazin fill it with good titles never accept any pro pkk statement, if there is somebody doing this it means his carrear ended let be a musician, tv star or anyone else media needs to do the shocked guy again and again.. begin discussions on tv how this can be in a time like today and so on
begin to make tv series about it, make tv series about nationalism make tv documentations like bbc documentations for all kind of stuff and sometimes about pkk conflict
social media and online presence needs to be more professional,
turkey needs to host facebook etc in turkey to control what happens there
we need big cinema movies in hollywood quality if needed import some help and put sakar sakir mentality away
Imams local and Tv
imams need to be selected by the state every other one is not allowed to preach.. they need hand outs and material from the state good ones using todays technology, massivle teach them rhetoric and social media and computers they need to collect the conservative ones you need to proof that what the imam is preaching about brotherhood is true otherwise its just words..
government
better protection of laws and police polic emust be seen as a force not to mess around..
more anti drug operations, using of drones dogs and so on, if someone is pro pkk than his friends and friends of friends and brothers and so on need to be checked (telephones, computers or more)
destroying vehicles and other stuff: parents have to pay that back, if there is no money than there is maybe some land a house or gold and thats to be taken and if they work than they its to be taken directly from his boss.. if he does not work than look where the money comes in if works illegal without paying taxes than both sides need hard punishment
if someone leaves the turkish citizenship and comes from certain regions let them leave in one day.. if someone is pro pkk on social media than let him go away but this people should never be allowed to come back
the todays media is not used properly I belive with the todays media we could shape the country how we want.. lets give it an example I belive the media has so much power it could turn a country into gay majority country if they want to
a lot of more things needs to be done than this.. and I am also for a MIT death squad poisen, car accident, people never coming back.. in whatever country they are..
and the last thing
instead of having 5 million refugees from other states we could have 8 million or more uyghurs from china.. I am shure that there could be a proper agreement.. setteling them in the east with giving them jobs there and money for children would increase their numbers
if you put arabs in this region I think this is the wrongest of all things you could do..
specially the uyghur thing would be the best option because the kurdish mentality is you settle somewhere, increase your numbers, spead lies and do fake history and to justify your acts.. so if you outweight their numbers you will see how fast they will shut up! that is a thing that also happens in germany
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these medya needs to be poisened, car accidented or just gone forever + all those who question that..
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