The Fight against PKK Terrorism

[CAN_TR]

Attack on a light fortified outpost 1 Soldier and 1 Village guard KIA, for now unknown how many terrorist attackers were killed in the exchange of fire.

I swear Anti Terror campaign is so passive no serious operations only retalliation, what the f*ck is it when you start operations with 600-800 soldiers for few weeks on a certain region? You have to gather a Force of 20.000-30.000 and wipe the whole mountains.

Build a proper base for soldiers and strenghten it with barbed wire and mines on weak positions, in this attack terrorists came from highground and the outpost was fortified with sandbags.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

Attack on a light fortified outpost 1 Soldier and 1 Village guard KIA, for now unknown how many terrorist attackers were killed in the exchange of fire.

I swear Anti Terror campaign is so passive no serious operations only retalliation, what the f*ck is it when you start operations with 600-800 soldiers for few weeks on a certain region? You have to gather a Force of 20.000-30.000 and wipe the whole mountains.

Build a proper base for soldiers and strenghten it with barbed wire and mines on weak positions, in this attack terrorists came from highground and the outpost was fortified with sandbags.

You can't defeat the PKK militarily solely, the KRG exists and ensures PKK survival and continuity of operations.

1992 is when the large ambush happened, ever since PKK activity has remained well above pre-1990 levels. There's a reason for that. Wiping mountains won't change much either, it's a terrain that humans can't enforce control on. My guess is that Erdogan has calculated PKK activity as acceptable in return for an economic boom from the deals with the KRG, especially considering PKK activity remained a thing from '91 till 2003 well before the investments in the KRG. The public wouldn't notice a difference in that insurgency continuing, but they'll notice an economic spike which will get him re-elected.

 

[Ansu fati]

You can't defeat the PKK militarily solely, the KRG exists and ensures PKK survival and continuity of operations.

1992 is when the large ambush happened, ever since PKK activity has remained well above pre-1990 levels. There's a reason for that. Wiping mountains won't change much either, it's a terrain that humans can't enforce control on. My guess is that Erdogan has calculated PKK activity as acceptable in return for an economic boom from the deals with the KRG, especially considering PKK activity remained a thing from '91 till 2003 well before the investments in the KRG. The public wouldn't notice a difference in that insurgency continuing, but they'll notice an economic spike which will get him re-elected.

if you occupy north iraq you can definitely enforce control on pkk and krg if you want to take only mountains then yes you are right that it’s pointless from military perspective
All turkey should do is make 30 km safezone or even more if it’s necessary inside north iraq anyway that territory isn’t controlled by baghdad so I don’t see problems between iraqi and turkish government
These terror attacks owe success to winter conditions also it’s a small base so TAF has made mistake when they aren’t giving proper air support through TB2 uav or other specific surveillance uavs if they start monitoring more closely then these rats won’t have so much time to plot against soldiers stationed there

 

[CAN_TR]

You can't defeat the PKK militarily solely, the KRG exists and ensures PKK survival and continuity of operations.

You can and end of the 90s PKK "capitulated" but the dumb Goverment started cheering instead of hunting them to the last one... they came back with new support.

You can't end terrorism with small useless operations or letting soldiers build outposts with sandbags which invites attacks.
They are watching the soldiers they know which paths they use for patrols and prepare IED traps and ambushes.

You have to establish a big Force which has only one job hunting terrorists, every mountain, every forrest, every cave, you need also a Intelligence Force which has one job tracking of PKK terrorists.
If you want to kill them you have to start operations inside Turkey in Syria and Iraq at once. No mercy no prisoners.
But for all that you need balls.

 

[MKALE1]

You can and end of the 90s PKK "capitulated" but the dumb Goverment started cheering instead of hunting them to the last one... they came back with new support.

You can't end terrorism with small useless operations or letting soldiers build outposts with sandbags which invites attacks.
They are watching the soldiers they know which paths they use for patrols and prepare IED traps and ambushes.

You have to establish a big Force which has only one job hunting terrorists, every mountain, every forrest, every cave, you need also a Intelligence Force which has one job tracking of PKK terrorists.
If you want to kill them you have to start operations inside Turkey in Syria and Iraq at once. No mercy no prisoners.
But for all that you need balls.

You still do not understand the stiuation well that this government is not resurrected pkk back.

Do you remember the Ecevit government's operations against Hezbollah in 2000 in Turkey? Those who do those operations resurrected PKK with perception studies as Domuz Bağ opened area for PKK.

The people associated with the PKK in CHP now were in power at the time. Can you imagine what they were doing, as well as feto supported them.

https://www.ensonhaber.com/hdpnin-tiyatrosunu-chpliler-de-izledi.html

 

[CAN_TR]

You still do not understand the stiuation well that this government is not resurrected pkk back.

Yes this Goverment is not responsible for the resurrect of PKK in the early 2000s, but this Goverment is responsible for ceasefire (Hendek Operasyonlari) and the growing of PKK in Syria
Now they have a Force of 60.000 a legal branch in Syria (YPG) which is supported with all kind of weapons and training by the West. Don't even mentioned the results of our Syria adventure.

I talk about TSK and passive anti terror operations which results in unneccessary loses and you talk about CHP/HDP meeting

 

[MKALE1]

Yes this Goverment is not responsible for the resurrect of PKK in the early 2000s, but this Goverment is responsible for ceasefire (Hendek Operasyonlari) and the growing of PKK in Syria
Now they have a Force of 60.000 a legal branch in Syria (YPG) which is supported with all kind of weapons and training by the West. Don't even mentioned the results of our Syria adventure.

I talk about TSK and passive anti terror operations which results in unneccessary loses and you talk about CHP/HDP meeting

The peace process had no political background. Although the manipulation of the fetos, in fact the state took a good step by showing its mercifull face. Young people in the region brainwashed that state is a killer with perception, it showed that this is not the case. and now the people of the region, even the PKK supporter normal guys, see the capacity of the state while they witnessed its old compassionate face. Terror is destroyed not only with weapons, but you need to use your soft power to convince poor normal supporter guys.

 

[CAN_TR]

The peace process had no political background. Although the manipulation of the fetos, in fact the state took a good step by showing its mercifull face. Young people in the region brainwashed that state is a killer with perception, it showed that this is not the case. and now the people of the region, even the PKK supporter normal guys, see the capacity of the state while they witnessed its old compassionate face. Terror is destroyed not only with weapons, but you need to use your software power to convince poor normal supporter guys.

Sure they were kidnapped and brainwashed... always the same story.

So the peace process was a „good step“ for you, but can you tell me how many loses we had because of this?

 

[MKALE1]

Dirty relationships between CHP, HDP, PKK AND FETO.

 

[Old School]

It is a fact that PKK terrorism was born out of the old cold war between Warsaw and NATO pacts. Now that Turkey enjoy a better relationship with Russia, nothing is stopping Turkey from going hard on the PKK terrorists and their current
sponsors.

 

[Timur]

Hezbollah in 2000 in Turkey

didnt you hear the hizbullah turkey nasheeds where they want their kurdistan? pkk= stalinistic kurdistan hizbullah = cihadi kurdistan.. one coin with two sides..

 

[Ansu fati]

The peace process had no political background. Although the manipulation of the fetos, in fact the state took a good step by showing its mercifull face. Young people in the region brainwashed that state is a killer with perception, it showed that this is not the case. and now the people of the region, even the PKK supporter normal guys, see the capacity of the state while they witnessed its old compassionate face. Terror is destroyed not only with weapons, but you need to use your software power to convince poor normal supporter guys.

You(state) can’t be merciful with terrorists either you(state) will destroy them or they will destroy you(state)
How many have sacrificed lives? Even if they want to trick you by manipulating with some touching videos between a mother and surendered terrorist always should be remembered that someone’s wife daughter son or father is gone because he gave his life to the state for me that someone and his/her feelings are much more important
When you have 5 milion who vote terrorism plus “others” those others i think we all know who they are if you don’t know here’s hint: some celebrities journalists-more like terror propagandists and traitors from the all the four parties you know that there will be huge problems in the long term

didnt you hear the hizbullah turkey nasheeds where they want their kurdistan? pkk= stalinistic kurdistan hizbullah = cihadi kurdistan.. one coin with two sides..

Same story with krg and pkk or as you said turkish hezbollah and pkk they are all the same enemies for the turkish state
Difference between them is want the way of political rule
Hezbollah wants jihadi fakestan
Pkk wants communist stalinist fakestan
Krg wants barzanistan
Regardless of this all these terrorists see Turkey as their main enemy

 

[Saddam Hussein]

When in 2017 you suddenly see PKK emerge in Kirkuk, then you know there is an open roaming policy for PKK in the entire KRG. They can go from Nineveh plains, to Qandil, to Kirkuk (back then).

Of course it is not impossible to defeat them militarily, but there has been no such will from the government. At least, they did not prioritize it over other things that would come at a cost of it. Such as less economic deals, less political influence over the KRG etc.

Even in KRG's 2017 referendum, you saw only partial hostility towards the KRG with the purpose of containing their ambitions. All these military operations have been a containment policy all along

 

[CAN_TR]

Another SVBIED attack on a base in Tal Abyad, 3 Soldiers KIA, retaliation only artillery fire on YPG/PKK position...
We lost more soldiers in doing nothing than in Operation Peace Spring.

Let's not make Russia/USA/Europe mad, right?

 

[Mr.NiceGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1218521862323548161

Universities in Turkey became a safe house for pkk militants and supporters.