The Eight Great Powers of 2017 [IRAN & INDIA]

[Arminkh]

lol

Haha! I double that!

Iran isn't a power and it surely isn't stronger than Israel, France, the UK and China&Japan are not stronger than Russia.

It is because you don't know the definition of power. Here is the definition you'll find in text books: A enjoys power over B when A can force B to change its behavior in accordance to A's will.

Now I can give you tens of examples where Iran has done that. Please give me one example where France or England did so throughout last cople of years. They tried and failed to do anything to change Tehran's and Moscow's behavior in Syria and Ukrine, and Iraq. They may have material power but they are not playing any significant role in anything. They are good samples of aging powers who should retire and open space for younger ones.

 

[Full Moon]

I really can't believe how some Iranian members do KNOWINGLY lie to themselves. It is really sad how the propaganda of their regime has made them pretend to believe that their nation is somehow a supper power. Don't they know for example that their air force is way too obsolete that it qualifies to be placed in a museum?

 

[yavar]

Iran isn't a power and it surely isn't stronger than Israel, France, the UK and Japan

dream on . keep thinking that your only one who have 3rd generation nuclear weapons and you're the only one . but guess what you can't fool Americans CIA or MI6 vs mossad . they know it and way of delivery system .

soon in next 5 years it will be come clear that you lost your domains in west
asia region as sole nuclear power

 

[Gold Eagle]

I really can't believe how some Iranian members do KNOWINGLY lie to themselves. It is really sad how the propaganda of their regime has made them pretend to believe that their nation is somehow a supper power. Don't they know for example that their air force is way too obsolete that it qualifies to be placed in a museum?

What are your achievements you could reach using your super power air force except draining billions of your petrodollars?!
It's not about having fancy weapons! It's all about how to put them in a good use, what exactly Saudis are incapable of!

 

[Beny Karachun]

It is because you don't know the definition of power. Here is the definition you'll find in text books: A enjoys power over B when A can force B to change its behavior in accordance to A's will.

Now I can give you tens of examples where Iran has done that. Please give me one example where France or England did so throughout last cople of years. They tried and failed to do anything to change Tehran's and Moscow's behavior in Syria and Ukrine, and Iraq. They may have material power but they are not playing any significant role in anything. They are good samples of aging powers who should retire and open space for younger ones.

Iran has never done anything to change the behavior of anyone, its all Russia, Russia is like your big brother and you are the annoying 10 year old that hides behind him.

If you think you have more power than Israel, which even Russia is afraid of shooting down our aircraft even after they threatened to destroy any aircraft that will bomb Assad, you are dreaming.

dream on . keep thinking that your only one who have 3rd generation nuclear weapons and you're the only one . but guess what you can't fool Americans CIA or MI6 vs mossad . they know it and way of delivery system .

soon in next 5 years it will be come clear that you lost your domains in west
asia region as sole nuclear power

Describe third generation nuclear weapons and how do you know what nuclear weapons we have?

Our Mossad has and is operating both in the US and Britain, not the opposite.

 

[VEVAK]

I really can't believe how some Iranian members do KNOWINGLY lie to themselves. It is really sad how the propaganda of their regime has made them pretend to believe that their nation is somehow a supper power. Don't they know for example that their air force is way too obsolete that it qualifies to be placed in a museum?

An Air Force that wasn't built by you is not Power it is the illusion of power NOTHING MORE! KSA Air Force is not allowed to put the safety, security & interests of it's own country over the interests of the U.S.! If it does, they will lose all their Air Force in a matter of months! Iran's been there done that! That's why today according to Iranian law any fighter deal with a foreign power has to include Co-production!

Fighter jet by themselves don't give you any power, their ability to deliver precision strikes at long distances & ability to intercept incoming aircraft do! Both of with Iran has made up for with SAM's, Ballistic Missiles, AshM, LACM,...

Saudi Air Force isn't even allowed to maintain it's own fighters! And it's not a matter of not wanting to or not knowing how to do it! YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED to do it! That is NOT power it's only the illusion of power!

A Saudi F-15 costs $250 Million USD includes (Aircraft, Spare Parts, add ons, flight suit, limited weapons, training & US maintenance personal)

So for the cost of a single Saudi F-15 $250 Million USD Iran can build 250 $1Million USD missiles that will demolish 3-5 entire base's equipped with Saudi F-15's!!!!!!!!! NOW THAT IS POWER! And it's a power that will turn any illusion you have about the significance of your Air Force into dust!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Arminkh]

Iran has never done anything to change the behavior of anyone, its all Russia, Russia is like your big brother and you are the annoying 10 year old that hides behind him.

If you think you have more power than Israel, which even Russia is afraid of shooting down our aircraft even after they threatened to destroy any aircraft that will bomb Assad, you are dreaming.


Describe third generation nuclear weapons and how do you know what nuclear weapons we have?

Our Mossad has and is operating both in the US and Britain, not the opposite.

Actually it has done it several times:

1- How about changing Israel's behaviour for one? I have not heard any rhetoric about pre-emptive strikes recently.
2- How about Syria? At the beginning it was only Iran who said Assad must stay while rest of the world said he must go. And for your information, Iran convinced Russia to interfere and now both are benefiting from it
3- Iraq, Iran turned Iraq into an ally despite US being there having troops on the ground
4- Lebanon, while KSA was trying to buy influence but eventually a pro-Iranian government was elected.

Iran has dealt with each challenge successfully and come out stronger than before. The very fact that right now KSA and Israel are sending each other love letters is another proof of Iran's increasing power and influence.

And for your information, Russia is the last country we can call brother but both nations are wise enough to know when they should join efforts which is another example of playing your cards wisely.

Finally, staying in within your own air space and throwing stones at the other side is not exactly what Russia warned about. If you think Russia doesn't dare to shoot down your jets, then you are dreaming. Their ultimatum was meant for US and effectively marginalized their air force which is a tactical victory. What would Russia achieve by doing the same to Israel? They just don't feel threatened by Israel!

I really can't believe how some Iranian members do KNOWINGLY lie to themselves. It is really sad how the propaganda of their regime has made them pretend to believe that their nation is somehow a supper power. Don't they know for example that their air force is way too obsolete that it qualifies to be placed in a museum?

This article is written by two Americans. So we are not the only delusional people here.

What did your modern aircrafts gain for you in Yemen? Power is not about having the best toys. It is about having the brain to think strategically and the balls to put your plans to action.

 

[Full Moon]

An Air Force that wasn't built by you is not Power it is the illusion of power NOTHING MORE! KSA Air Force is not allowed to put the safety, security & interests of it's own country over the interests of the U.S.! If it does, they will lose all their Air Force in a matter of months! Iran's been there done that! That's why today according to Iranian law any fighter deal with a foreign power has to include Co-production!

Fighter jet by themselves don't give you any power, their ability to deliver precision strikes at long distances & ability to intercept incoming aircraft do! Both of with Iran has made up for with SAM's, Ballistic Missiles, AshM, LACM,...

Saudi Air Force isn't even allowed to maintain it's own fighters! And it's not a matter of not wanting to or not knowing how to do it! YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED to do it! That is NOT power it's only the illusion of power!

A Saudi F-15 costs $250 Million USD includes (Aircraft, Spare Parts, add ons, flight suit, limited weapons, training & US maintenance personal)

So for the cost of a single Saudi F-15 $250 Million USD Iran can build 250 $1Million USD missiles that will demolish 3-5 entire base's equipped with Saudi F-15's!!!!!!!!! NOW THAT IS POWER! And it's a power that will turn any illusion you have about the significance of your Air Force into dust!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are a dellesioned person. Every country in the world recognizes the importance of air force while the backbone of your air force is the obselete F-14 Tomcat. Who told you that we cant maintain our own F15s? You are making a statment to decive readers without knowing what you are talking about. All of your missles were destryoed by the Patriot operated by the Saudi Air defense which confirms that ballastic missles with conventional heads are almost usless in a real battel situation.

Actually it has done it several times:

1- How about changing Israel's behaviour for one? I have not heard any rhetoric about pre-emptive strikes recently.
2- How about Syria? At the beginning it was only Iran who said Assad must stay while rest of the world said he must go. And for your information, Iran convinced Russia to interfere and now both are benefiting from it
3- Iraq, Iran turned Iraq into an ally despite US being there having troops on the ground
4- Lebanon, while KSA was trying to buy influence but eventually a pro-Iranian government was elected.

Iran has dealt with each challenge successfully and come out stronger than before. The very fact that right now KSA and Israel are sending each other love letters is another proof of Iran's increasing power and influence.

And for your information, Russia is the last country we can call brother but both nations are wise enough to know when they should join efforts which is another example of playing your cards wisely.

Finally, staying in within your own air space and throwing stones at the other side is not exactly what Russia warned about. If you think Russia doesn't dare to shoot down your jets, then you are dreaming. Their ultimatum was meant for US and effectively marginalized their air force which is a tactical victory. What would Russia achieve by doing the same to Israel? They just don't feel threatened by Israel!


This article is written by two Americans. So we are not the only delusional people here.

What did your modern aircrafts gain for you in Yemen? Power is not about having the best toys. It is about having the brain to think strategically and the balls to put your plans to action.

Best toys? Is that what jelousy can do? Our air force has been given us the upper hand in Yemen war and cause the death of thousands of your pupets "houthi zoroastrians".

 

[Skull and Bones]

India and Iran should work together for each other's economic and regional security causes. And we can achieve much more than we could ever imagine.

 

[VEVAK]

You are a dellesioned person. Every country in the world recognizes the importance of air force while the backbone of your air force is the obselete F-14 Tomcat. Who told you that we cant maintain our own F15s? You are making a statment to decive readers without knowing what you are talking about. All of your missles were destryoed by the Patriot operated by the Saudi Air defense which confirms that ballastic missles with conventional heads are almost usless in a real battel situation.


Best toys? Is that what jelousy can do? Our air force has been given us the upper hand in Yemen war and cause the death of thousands of your pupets "houthi zoroastrians".

Yea sure because intercepting ballistic missiles is so much easier than intercepting F-15's!!!!!!!!! LOL!

And NO Saudi Arabia IS NOT ALLOWED to maintain it's F-15 it's in your contracts! Have you ever read them? Because I have! $250 Million includes 2 years of US maintenance personal maintaining your F-15's for you & you would have to pay their paychecks after the 1st 2 years is up and IT IS NOT OPTIONAL!
They allow you minimum maintenance with U.S. supervision for example you can open a few screws take out the engine and put your spare engine in under US supervision then depending on the issue the engine is either shipped to the U.S. or fixed on site buy ONLY with US personal! It's the same with EVERY MAJOR component!

$250 Million USD for freaking F-15!!!!!!!!!!!!!! = 250 Iranian Missiles that will demolish your bases! for just the price of 1 F-15!

out of 100 missiles coming at one of your bases how many do you think you can intercept?? You systems can at best track and target 24 of them 70% of the SAM's fired will miss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Saudi Arabia has no real power!

 

[IranDefence]

Well I admit that Saudi has some influence and its over poor nation of Pakistan ... they build Wahabi schools in Pakistan and in reciprocity pakistan sends Commander to help genocide Yemenis

 

[UniverseWatcher]

Pakistan sends Commander to help genocide Yemenis

Maybe you should backup your claims with some evidence that would be really appreciated

 

[IranDefence]

Maybe you should backup your claims with some evidence that would be really appreciated

General Raheel Sharif

 

[Full Moon]

Yea sure because intercepting ballistic missiles is so much easier than intercepting F-15's!!!!!!!!! LOL!

And NO Saudi Arabia IS NOT ALLOWED to maintain it's F-15 it's in your contracts! Have you ever read them? Because I have! $250 Million includes 2 years of US maintenance personal maintaining your F-15's for you & you would have to pay their paychecks after the 1st 2 years is up and IT IS NOT OPTIONAL!
They allow you minimum maintenance with U.S. supervision for example you can open a few screws take out the engine and put your spare engine in under US supervision then depending on the issue the engine is either shipped to the U.S. or fixed on site buy ONLY with US personal! It's the same with EVERY MAJOR component!

$250 Million USD for freaking F-15!!!!!!!!!!!!!! = 250 Iranian Missiles that will demolish your bases! for just the price of 1 F-15!

out of 100 missiles coming at one of your bases how many do you think you can intercept?? You systems can at best track and target 24 of them 70% of the SAM's fired will miss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Saudi Arabia has no real power!

Mr. Exclamation mark, we do have the right to maintain our own fighter jets and Al Salam Saudi Company is regularly doing this. Adding maintinace provision in any contract is not equivelent of exlusivity. It means that no warranty will apply if the maintiance wasn't provided by the manafacturer for a certain period of time. There is also a reason for the World's powers not to use ballistic missles but rather use fighter jets. Iran got North Korean missles to suplement its military b/c of sanctions.

 

[Chanakyaa]

Iran isn't a power and it surely isn't stronger than Israel, France, the UK and China&Japan are not stronger than Russia.

UK , France are Missing. Both these nations are powerful enough to be on the list.

My List :

1. USA
2. China
3. Germany
4. Russia
5. Japan
6. France
7. UK
8. India
9. Israel
10. Iran / Saudi Arabia