The 'clean-up' of Empress Market doesn't have to be this way

[Indus Pakistan]

'iteration'

I meant in the sense of versions. As you know there are many, many madhhabs even amongst the Sunni leave alone the Shia. So I was just wondering which one would you enforce. And exactly how would you enforce one madhhab on a conflicted population of Pakistan. For instance what would you do with the 10% of the population that is Shia in Pakistan. Call Saudia/USA and do a Houthi v.02 on them and turn Pakistan into another Yemen?

I am burdened with the task of informing you that this is off-topic.

If you throw something expect a reply to that. It was you who pulled the magic solution out of the magic pot. What next? Shall we have PM Imran Khan declare a caliphate with him being annointed as the calipha and everything will be ... sorted !

 

[Dubious]

And I pointed it out already.

So Amjad the kite guy is the source...he claims they arrived early? That is not good...This should be taken to court like all the previous years with the stay orders and whatnot...

 

[CriticalThought]

Ok, please tell me how do you restore investors confidence in Pakistan, Karachi being the financial capital of the country?


When he take action against the land mafia its misgovernance (bad governance). when he didn't shoot the protesting religious baboons, he is weak,No winning with you guys is there

1. Investors don't care about empress market.
2. MQM is complicit in this misgovernance. When IK knows he doesn't have government in the entire country, why is he providing ammunition to his enemies by allowing then to go open season on the poor? Mark my words: MQM will use this to max benefit. You don't understand the level of racism in people. This will be used to drive home the point that Waseem is helpless due to orders from above. Now if only MQM were in power with majority. Both PPP and MQM will milk it. This is madness on the part of PTI.

 

[SQ8]

To what end? What do we achieve from this? Aesthetic pleasure? How about he concentrates on job creation and education. These encroachments will go away by themselves.

No they wont. These encroachments are fuelled by a mix of greed and corruption. Greed that began with these stalls set up and continued by people who profited off it by corruption.

Aestheic sense is knowing beauty and keeping a city clean, its the same reason people tend to abhor wuzu gahs in mosques in Pakistan because they are filtheir than offal dumps; cleanliness and understanding for people’s ways.. including traffic flow and crowd movement is important; illegal shops and a system that feeds off them is not.

Thats like saying just because a gambling house was legalized it was wrong to finish it or move it out of people’s way because now those who run it will face u employment.

People will suffer, yes.. but then nothing is gained until years of misuse and corruption is taken out with a hard fist.

The military accounts department has an unofficial bribery distribution network which runs through a pool and is distributed among ranks.. it adds to the otherwise meagre earnings of those government employees working there.

So should it be finished off in the name of justice and fairness or shall we think of the clerks children whose extra 30000 will be lost if it is done?
What do you value more? The future of a society, city or country or people indulging/part of a wrong system being “wronged”.

 

[CriticalThought]

I meant in the sense of versions. As you know there are many, many madhhabs even amongst the Sunni leave alone the Shia. So I was just wondering which one would you enforce. And exactly how would you enforce one madhhab on a conflicted population of Pakistan. For instance what would you do with the 10% of the population that is Shia in Pakistan. Call Saudia/USA and do a Houthi v.02 on them and turn Pakistan into another Yemen?

If you throw something expect a reply to that. It was you who pulled the magic solution out of the magic pot. What next? Shall we have PM Imran Khan declare a caliphate with him being annointed as the calipha and everything will be ... sorted !

One answer. MMA. OK, maybe people have issues with certain individuals. But MMA is more than that.

 

[LeGenD]

There should be a strategy to address this issue; these people should be issued a deadline to relocate their stuff (15 days in total). If these people experience difficulty in relocating their stuff on their own, then provincial government should help them relocate to other sectors.

Destroying shops and throwing people on the streets is absolutely cruel.

 

[CriticalThought]

No they wont. These encroachments are fuelled by a mix of greed and corruption. Greed that began with these stalls set up and continued by people who profited off it by corruption.

Aestheic sense is knowing beauty and keeping a city clean, its the same reason people tend to abhor wuzu gahs in mosques in Pakistan because they are filtheir than offal dumps; cleanliness and understanding for people’s ways.. including traffic flow and crowd movement is important; illegal shops and a system that feeds off them is not.

Thats like saying just because a gambling house was legalized it was wrong to finish it or move it out of people’s way because now those who run it will face u employment.

People will suffer, yes.. but then nothing is gained until years of misuse and corruption is taken out with a hard fist.

The military accounts department has an unofficial bribery distribution network which runs through a pool and is distributed among ranks.. it adds to the otherwise meagre earnings of those government employees working there.

So should it be finished off in the name of justice and fairness or shall we think of the clerks children whose extra 30000 will be lost if it is done?
What do you value more? The future of a society, city or country or people indulging/part of a wrong system being “wronged”.

My basic premise is that we have a sea of humanity that has no place to go. Promises by Waseem Akhtar aren't enough. So you need to answer where these people will setup shop?

 

[SQ8]

One answer. MMA. OK, maybe people have issues with certain individuals. But MMA is more than that.

Never works, religious parties have engaged in the same mismanagement and corruption other political party except they did it under religious cloaks(May Allah burn them in hell).

MMA officials in KP &Balochistan looted millions in infrastructure money, in Karachi and in southern Punjab they indulged in land grabbing under religious persecution of minorities.

My basic premise is that we have a sea of humanity that has no place to go. Promises by Waseem Akhtar aren't enough. So you need to answer where these people will setup shop?

I am not in the government, nor do I represent Waseem Akhtar. If he doesn’t deliver then these people have someone to grab. Until that time, these people should reflect on whether their illegal practices of expanding shops onto streets created hassle for traffic and whether the hardship faced by countless riders and commuters are coming back at them.

 

[Sine Nomine]

It had to be done and could have been done better; but knowing the attitude of local officials and political interference for corruption purpose, this was the only way.

There should be a strategy to address this issue; these people should be issued a deadline to relocate their stuff (15 days in total). If these people experience difficulty in relocating their stuff on their own, then provincial government should help them relocate to other sectors.

Destroying shops and throwing people on the streets is absolutely cruel.

Govt got a lesson from that fisco.
Some 25 years ago a whole village built on Govt land was razed in few hours,when someone asked D.C why didn't you gave them time?
He said,when last time i did gave them time to evacute,they didn't and next day welcomed me using stones.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1832760/1-protestors-clash-police-karachis-pakistan-quarters/

 

[CriticalThought]

Never works, religious parties have engaged in the same mismanagement and corruption other political party except they did it under religious cloaks(May Allah burn them in hell).

MMA officials in KP &Balochistan looted millions in infrastructure money, in Karachi and in southern Punjab they indulged in land grabbing under religious persecution of minorities.

The concept and incarnation of MMA is the answer to his original question: which school of thought should be implemented.

If there have been implementation faults in the past, then they can be corrected.

 

[SQ8]

The concept and incarnation of MMA is the answer to his original question: which school of thought should be implemented.

If there have been implementation faults in the past, then they can be corrected.

No. Religion is almost akin to cancer in political thought. Every instance where religion was applied to politics after the prophet left has led to death, ruin and destruction ; from Jamal to ISIS.

I can never agree to it and will vehemently oppose it wherever I can, lets agree to disagree.

 

[CriticalThought]

I am not in the government, nor do I represent Waseem Akhtar. If he doesn’t deliver then these people have someone to grab. Until that time, these people should reflect on whether their illegal practices of expanding shops onto streets created hassle for traffic and whether the hardship faced by countless riders and commuters are coming back at them.

They have no one to grab. They only have empty words. Meanwhile, many of them didn't have enough money to feed their children last night. I pray to Allah that no one should face such hardship, ever. Aameen.

No. Religion is almost akin to cancer in political thought. Every instance where religion was applied to politics after the prophet left has led to death, ruin and destruction ; from Jamal to ISIS.

I can never agree to it and will vehemently oppose it wherever I can, lets agree to disagree.

So you want political democracy. Religion has no place in it. You are secular. May Allah Guide you. Meanwhile, the rest of us want to see Islam being implemented through a process that is compliant with the Constitution.

 

[SQ8]

They have no one to grab. They only have empty words. Meanwhile, many of them didn't have enough money to feed their children last night. I pray to Allah that no one should face such hardship, ever. Aameen.



So you want political democracy. Religion has no place in it. You are secular. May Allah Guide you. Meanwhile, the rest of us want to see Islam being implemented through a process that is compliant with the Constitution.

And Allah is the ONLY one to guide me and the ONLY one who will judge me. The rest are all irrelevant and powerless humans.

 

[CriticalThought]

And Allah is the ONLY one to guide me and the ONLY one who will judge me. The rest are all irrelevant and powerless humans.

Remember, He Guides those who desire Guidance sincerely. And He also Misguides those who obstinately turn away from the Truth.

 

[SQ8]

Remember, He Guides those who desire Guidance sincerely. And He also Misguides those who obstinately turn away from the Truth.

Unless you recieved the revelation, you do not in utter certainty represent the Truth nor can speak for anyone except for yourself or those who claim to follow you word for word.

The only truth was revealed 1400 years ago through one man who also passed away in the same timeframe. Everyone after that can only interpret that truth but can never claim to be getting that truth.. otherwise its the same territory as Muslaimah Kazzab.