The betrayal of my beautiful religion, Islam

[FaujHistorian]

My point, @FaujHistorian, is that when Muslims decided that it was O.K. to lie and endorse terror against Jews they thus chose that on their tree of values truth and human rights matter less than sectarianism and conquest. What we see today in the Muslim World, imo, is blow-back from that decision.

Don't think you must make this problem as Israel/Jews specific.

yours truly

Fauj Pak

 

[Dubious]

Analyzing a concept without looking at actions resulting from that concept?
Not possible.
It is like doing a PhD on tree, its bark, etc. without ever looking at and tasting and analyzing its fruit.
That will be a bad PhD

lolz...Dude sometimes you need to be careful what you are talking about...

Mind you my PhD is aimed on fruits and I have only seen the said fruit twice in the greenhouse....so mind you there are ways to everything...How? DNA, RNA, protein we dont even need to look at the plant (at least my case)


As per your analogy:
It is like doing a PhD on tree, its bark, etc. without ever looking at and tasting and analyzing its fruit. ...You dont need to know about the fruit to do a PhD on the bark I know this coz my colleagues are doing so...

Back to the ACTUAL topic:

Analyzing a concept without looking at actions resulting from that concept?

Well, the problem is the "actions" are contradicting the concept...IF you do analyze you will realize but media inst interested in analyzing hence my fury at the rubbish it spews!

 

[Solomon2]

Don't think you must make this problem as Israel/Jews specific.
yours truly
Fauj Pak

To a hammer everything looks like a nail, yes. But that one-dimensional view of the world doesn't mean that there aren't nails out there to be hammered, does it? Have you ever considered that this anti-Israel/anti-Jew attitude is both at the root of militarism and the secret to getting out of it?

 

[FaujHistorian]

To a hammer everything looks like a nail, yes. But that one-dimensional view of the world doesn't mean that there aren't nails out there to be hammered, does it? Have you ever considered that this anti-Israel/anti-Jew attitude is both at the root of militarism and the secret to getting out of it?

If you really want to know.

Marxism (Islamo-Socialism) is a bigger issue.

Anti-Israel sentiments are common among marxists all over the world
-- Ironic that Marx was of jewish descent.

...
Analyzing a concept without looking at actions resulting from that concept?

Well, the problem is the "actions" are contradicting the concept...IF you do analyze you will realize but media inst interested in analyzing hence my fury at the rubbish it spews!

killing/stoning of apostates
Death fatwas for blasphemy

are stupid implementation of Islamism, practiced even by mainstream Muslims.

so please go easy on conspiracy theories.

 

[Dubious]

killing/stoning of apostates
Death fatwas for blasphemy
are stupid implementation of Islamism, practiced even by mainstream Muslims.
so please go easy on conspiracy theories.

Hence I said analyze...


Who implemented it and who ACTUALLY is allowed to do so?

WHEN is killing/ stoning ALLOWED?

WHAT does Ismaism mean? Islam is a verb its like saying running-ism ...make sense? That is what I hear when people utter rubbish ...

as for "mainstream Muslims" WHO are they?

Analyze a little arent you TTA?

 

[Solomon2]

Marxism (Islamo-Socialism) is a bigger issue.

Khalifat came first, didn't it? And Khalifat and anti-Zionism were intricately linked, at least in the Indian Muslim context.

-- Ironic that Marx was jewish by religion.

Incorrect. Karl Marx was a Jew by descent who was baptized by his Christian father at age six: link

 

[Dubious]

Khalifat came first, didn't it? And Khalifat and anti-Zionism were intricately linked, at least in the Indian Muslim context.

Incorrect. Karl Marx was a Jew by descent who was baptized by his Christian father at age six: link

@FaujHistorian and I am living with conspiracies?

 

[FaujHistorian]

Khalifat came first, didn't it? And Khalifat and anti-Zionism were intricately linked, at least in the Indian Muslim context.

The same Khalifat by Turk emperors was protector of Jews too.

Gotta look at all sides my dear Solomon. Gotta look beyond narrow racially charged pov.

Incorrect. Karl Marx was a Jew by descent who was baptized by his Christian father at age six: link

Thanks. Fixed.



yours truly

Fauj Pak

 

[Solomon2]

@FaujHistorian and I am living with conspiracies?

Non-sequitur.

 

[FaujHistorian]

....
Who implemented it and who ACTUALLY is allowed to do so?

WHEN is killing/ stoning ALLOWED?

WHAT does Ismaism mean? Islam is a verb its like saying running-ism ...make sense? That is what I hear when people utter rubbish ...

as for "mainstream Muslims" WHO are they?

none can be more mainstream than Ayatullahs of Iran and mullahs of Saudi.

please read history of stoning, and killing and murdering by Islamists in Pakistan to Iran, to Afghanistan, to KSA and other places.



yours truly

Fauj Pak

 

[Solomon2]

The same Khalifat by Turk emperors was protector of Jews too.

Yes. It's important to distinguish between the Khalifat movement in S. Asia and the Ottoman Caliphate as it really was.

Gotta look at all sides my dear Solomon. Gotta look beyond narrow racially charged pov.

You could just say, "No, I never considered Jew-rejection as a factor and I don't want to." Otherwise you run at risk of self-deception, to the detriment of yourself and your nation.

 

[Dubious]

none can be more mainstream than Ayatullahs of Iran and mullahs of Saudi.

please read history of stoning, and killing and murdering by Islamists in Pakistan to Iran, to Afghanistan, to KSA and other places.



yours truly

Fauj Pak

wow thats analysis huh? dont read what it is or guidlines on HOW to use it as per SHARIAH But DO read how people misuse it AND CALL IT SHARIAH


Its like a butcher decides to preform a surgery while reading it from an online how to operate 101 and everyone quotes him as the expert in surgery!

 

[VCheng]

wow thats analysis huh? dont read what it is or guidlines on HOW to use it as per SHARIAH But DO read how people misuse it AND CALL IT SHARIAH


Its like a butcher decides to preform a surgery while reading it from an online how to operate 101 and everyone quotes him as the expert in surgery!

But then the problem lies with the hospital that allows the said butcher in the Operating Rooms as a qualified surgeon and provides the support staff for the operation. People outside the hospital will then correctly blame the hospital, and no one else, for the butchery.

 

[Dubious]

But then the problem lies with the hospital that allows the said butcher in the Operating Rooms as a qualified surgeon and provides the support staff for the operation. People outside the hospital will then correctly blame the hospital, and no one else, for the butchery.

Who said he did it in a / the hospital?

 

[VCheng]

Who said he did it in a / the hospital?

Then those who think they can get qualified surgery done on the roadside are themselves at fault.