The Aryans did not come from India; they conquered it

[U-571]

Scythians never reached South India, which was and still is the homeland of the Dravidians.


What an ignorant and stupid statement to make.

Punjabis make make up about 50% of Pakistan and around 2-3% of India. They have their own culture, native language and historically followed their own religions.

According to Vedic scripts they were considered as a part of the Bahlika (outsiders) and enemies of the Arya (Brahmins).

Your disgusting comment about "afghans and turks raping Punjabi women" as an explanation for the high "foreign DNA" (You probably don't even know what DNA is) is the most stupid and pseudoscientific self-made theory i've ever seen. Pashtuns have about the same Eurasian component as Punjabis, does that mean that Pashtuns have also been "raped and raided" by Central Asians/Turks?

Get out of this thread, because you surely don't know what you're talking about.

where do you think the name hindustan came from? its a persian name not related to native india name which is bharat

for persians which conquered Punjab everything east of indus was hindustan which derives from the name indus, the afghans named their mountains hindukush meaning the border where hindustan ended.

sindh and punjab both lie on the east of indus

if you are the same as afghans that means you guys were genetically altered so you are basically insulting yourself here.

i have seen african americans complaining after doing DNA test that they have some caucasian blood in them meaning, their ancestors were raped

you guys entire genetic makeup altered and being proud is a first for me.

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Even more stupidity



Comparing some Marathi Models with Punjabis and using that as evidence to prove "Punjabis are Indians". I have seen both Punjabis and Marathis in real life and not through cherry-picked google images; there is absolutely nothing in common between Punjabis and Marathis.

By the way, look up the genetic differences between Pakistanis and South Indians like Marathis.

why dont you post punjabi and marathi and your aryan master wedding pictures and see where Punjabis belong, indian culture or your aryan master culture.

i let you discriminate how Punjabi culture is different than indian culture?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

there is absolutely nothing in common between Punjabis and Marathis.

Sorry Talwar. There is much in common from my considered perspective. Both have two legs, two arms, two eyes. Both breath air. Both drink water. Both can inbreed.

You should see the differance in Europe between English, Irish, Germans, Russians. The first have two legs, Irish three legs, Germans four legs and Russians have no legs but slide on the ground like worms. That is real differance.

And I won't even go into the cultural or religious differances between all of Europe, They are so different that they are all Christian. Can you believe that?

 

[MultaniGuy]

Sorry Talwar. There is much in common from my considered perspective. Both have two legs, two arms, two eyes. Both breath air. Both drink water. Both can inbreed.

You should see the differance in Europe between English, Irish, Germans, Russians. The first have two legs, Irish three legs, Germans four legs and Russians have no legs but slide on the ground like worms. That is real differance,

Well now there is nothing in common between Pakistani Punjabis and Indian Marathis.

We have nothing in common with the "Hindu culture."

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

where do you think the name hindustan came from? its a persian name not related to native india name which is bharat

for persians which conquered Punjab everything east of indus was hindustan which derives from the name indus, the afghans named their mountains hindukush meaning the border where hindustan ended.

Both the name Hindustan and (latin) India comes from the Persian word Hindhu which comes from the word Sindhu, the name of the Indus River. People living on the Indus River were thus called Hindus by the Persians while they were called Sindhus by the Indians in their vedic texts (Sindhus are referred to as a foreign people).

Neither the Persians nor the Greeks had substantial knowledge of what was East to the Indus River.

For example; if you look at the most accurate map of that time; map of Herodotus - Modern-day India is not even a part of the map.

Due to a lack of information, the land East of the Indus was also referred to as Indika (by the Greeks) and Hindhu (by the Persians), they thought that if they kept going East of the Indus, they would shortly reach the Caspian Sea, Central Asia or even the end of the world.

As knowledge of the area grew, the name had already stuck.

(Notice the tribes labelled on the Indus River are all Iranic/Central Asian)

why dont you post punjabi and marathi and your aryan master wedding pictures and see where Punjabis belong, indian culture or your aryan master culture.

Aryans don't exist, even if they did - Punjabis will be Punjabis, Indians will be Indians and "Aryans" will be Aryans.

i let you discriminate how Punjabi culture is different than indian culture?

Okay,

1. Different historical religions
2. Different cultures (both historically and present day)
3. Different languages
4. Different physical features
5. Different histories
6. Different values
7. Different traditions
8. misc includes accents and many other things I cannot name

 

[Pyara9]

where do you think the name hindustan came from? its a persian name not related to native india name which is bharat

for persians which conquered Punjab everything east of indus was hindustan which derives from the name indus, the afghans named their mountains hindukush meaning the border where hindustan ended.

sindh and punjab both lie on the east of indus

if you are the same as afghans that means you guys were genetically altered so you are basically insulting yourself here.

i have seen african americans complaining after doing DNA test that they have some caucasian blood in them meaning, their ancestors were raped

you guys entire genetic makeup altered and being proud is a first for me.

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why dont you post punjabi and marathi and your aryan master wedding pictures and see where Punjabis belong, indian culture or your aryan master culture.

i let you discriminate how Punjabi culture is different than indian culture?

Your logic and few posters above me is like this..

Just because Planet earth from my point of view looks flat it must be flat, Regardless of overwhelming scientific evidence.

If you want to ignore modern science and believe in your own theory go ahead. Just keep it to your self. Most people will disagree.

 

[U-571]

Both the name Hindustan and (latin) India comes from the Persian word Hindhu which comes from the word Sindhu, the name of the Indus River. People living on the Indus River were thus called Hindus by the Persians while they were called Sindhus by the Indians in their vedic texts (Sindhus are referred to as a foreign people).

Neither the Persians nor the Greeks had substantial knowledge of what was East to the Indus River.

For example; if you look at the most accurate map of that time; map of Herodotus - Modern-day India is not even a part of the map.

Due to a lack of information, the land East of the Indus was also referred to as Indika (by the Greeks) and Hindhu (by the Persians), they thought that if they kept going East of the Indus, they would shortly reach the Caspian Sea, Central Asia or even the end of the world.

As knowledge of the area grew, the name had already stuck.

(Notice the tribes labelled on the Indus River are all Iranic/Central Asian)

Aryans don't exist, even if they did - Punjabis will be Punjabis, Indians will be Indians and "Aryans" will be Aryans.


Okay,

1. Different historical religions
2. Different cultures (both historically and present day)
3. Different languages
4. Different physical features
5. Different histories
6. Different values
7. Different traditions
8. misc includes accents and many other things I cannot name

okay lets for argument agree that Punjabis are not indians, just elaborate this

1. Different historical religions
2. Different cultures (both historically and present day)
3. Different languages
4. Different physical features
5. Different histories
6. Different values
7. Different traditions
8. misc includes accents and many other things I cannot name

Your logic and few posters above me is like this..

Just because Planet earth from my point of view looks flat it must be flat, Regardless of overwhelming scientific evidence.

If you want to ignore modern science and believe in your own theory go ahead. Just keep it to your self. Most people will disagree.

please state your scientific evidences as you please.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

hindustan came from? its a persian name not related to native india name which is bharat

Also as for your "native Indian Bharat name".

Vedic texts considered modern-day Pakistan as foreign to Vedic culture and not a part of Bharat. The Kingdoms of Madra (North Punjab), Sindhu (South Punjab and West Sindh), Gandhara (KPK), Saurivas (East Sindh), Kamboja (Punjab/KPK) - (all of these Kingdoms combined make up modern-day Pakistan) were considered Bahlikas; meaning "foreign" or "outsider" and hostile to the Arya (vedic peoples).

 

[Pyara9]

okay lets for argument agree that Punjabis are not indians, just elaborate this

1. Different historical religions
2. Different cultures (both historically and present day)
3. Different languages
4. Different physical features
5. Different histories
6. Different values
7. Different traditions
8. misc includes accents and many other things I cannot name

please state your scientific evidences as you please.

Ok fun fact. Brown eyes are actually blue. Small medical procedure could bring them back to their true colo.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Also as for your "native Indian Bharat name".

Vedic texts considered modern-day Pakistan as foreign to Vedic culture and not a part of Bharat. The Kingdoms of Madra (North Punjab), Sindhu (South Punjab and West Sindh), Gandhara (KPK), Saurivas (East Sindh), Kamboja (Punjab/KPK) - (all of these Kingdoms combined make up Pakistan) were considered Bahlikas; meaning "foreign" or "outsider" and hostile to the Arya (vedic peoples).

Even all the way in Gandhara after successive invasions of Persians, Greeks, several C. Asians, it still exhibit strong Indian, or whatever you wanna call it influences even after being at the frontiers. Go look at art work from 2nd century AD see which is the bases for that culture.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Even all the way in Gandhara after successive invasions of Persians, Greeks, several C. Asians, it still exhibit strong Indian, or whatever you wanna call it influences even after being at the frontiers. Go look at art work from 2nd century AD see which is the bases for that culture.

Here is a Gandharan sculpture

and here is a Pheonician sculpture

Are Gandharans now Phoenicians? No

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Here is a Gandharan sculpture

and here is a Pheonician sculpture

Are Gandharans now Phoenicians? No

Both using Greco-Med art styles, yes.

But even in the 2nd Century after being overlorded by several groups of people, and currently being dominated by the Kushans, even simple things like they still having their idea of an aristocracy as a bearchested, dhoti wearing, turban wearing, huge earring that elongates the earlobes, is amazing.

 

[Kabira]

Both using Greco-Med art styles, yes.

But even in the 2nd Century after being overlorded by several groups of people, and currently being dominated by the Kushans, even simple things like they still having their idea of an aristocracy as a bearchested, dhoti wearing, turban wearing, huge earring that elongates the earlobes, is amazing.

Are they really Indian? I mean are they influenced by Gangistan aka real India? In that case you are right. But if its just indo-aryan vedic civlization which was born in IVC then its wrong to claim them as Indian.

 

[Hamza913]

wake up dear, get out of your british slave mentality.

the british treated you guys as slaves and didnt consider you their aryan brothers.

aryan theory has been proven false long time ago, only you stone age people seem to be stuck in this BS.

Where does the British come into this? Our skull type is our skull type, stop going off-topic with this stupid racism crap.

It's not false, it's been clearly proven true. Idiots like you just choose to bury your head in the sand.

 

[itsanufy]

An interesting read:-
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...sation-iit-kharagpur/articleshow/63776710.cms
@Joe Shearer and @Kaptaan specially for you

 

[faithfulguy]

With overwhelming evidence, India should just accept Aryan invasion and recognize the Dravidian are the natives of India. Northern Brahmins are just another invader.