Thank You USA

[TruthSeeker]

Amriki dogs, got it, they are deadmen whosever dogs they are.

Batman, Sir,
See muse has the right ticket. What better revenge could you have over the Americans and Indians who are tormenting you then killing their Pakistani dogs? It will drive the Americans and Indians nuts! They will be sooooooooo angry that their carefully and oh-so secretly nurtured forces of evil have been found out and eliminated. In that there should be total Pakistani unity among the adherents of all conspiracy theories.

 

[BATMAN]

Yes, yes, all very interesting and the board is full of these propaganda - it's just too late for that, we are going in and we will clean house, regardless of where you say they get their money or their weapons from -- yes, yes, Talib good, sorry confused, sorry I meant Amriki dogs, got it, they are deadmen whosever dogs they are.

I thought we were done!
You see this is the problem........ we will never done until we hit the root and cut of their source of funding or hit there training grounds inside Afghanistan.

You specially are so ignorant that does not even know that any one can cross Pak Afghan borders without any id papers or check.
Thousands of people come in to Pakistan for job every day and this alone from the check points and they are not subjected to any checks either.
indians and northern alliance can send terrorists in Pakistan on daily basis and in large numbers.
We go in to terroist infested areas bordering Afghanistan but when they feel like loosing than they just crtoss back to Afghanistan! and come back with a new planning at a better time!
Our army will be tired in the process just in few years and than they will start to get victories and than media will be brought forward to potray that army is loosing because they have sympathies to TTP.

We all know that TTP cheif informed tribals that he have more money available than Pakistan govt. it self have.
Why should we forget to think about the source of his money? we need to block his money and supply lines first.

I hope you know that heavy earth moving machinery is required to build tunnels in the mountains and all such equipment is available with US and indian army in Afghanistan.
If we destroy all heavy earth moving machinery within 20 km of Pakistan border we have already eliminated the secure hide outs of wepon caches.
If we deny indians air route than theri cost of terrorism activities will go up and it will decline the terrorist attacks.
I'm sure in this process we will not loose many soldiers and will ease their war.

 

[S-2]

"...in doing so did it help the US?"

That remains to be seen. As yet, I'd submit FAR from help. We've reason to believe elements of your gov't remain engaged in ASSISTING our enemies.

Certainly, Omar et al's extended stays on your land suggest as much. Quetta Shura? That isn't FATAville but it's real enough despite A.M.'s smarmy Anne Patterson smack.

Actionable intelligence? We should TELL YOU about the threats on your lands? Right...because otherwise see no, hear no, speak no...

Correct?

My thinking is fine and the facts are clear enough. Without sanctuary, the taliban insurgency in Afghanistan possesses no traction.

Awaiting your "help". More of the same we can do without.

Thanks.

 

[muse]

You specially are so ignorant that does not even know that any one can cross Pak Afghan borders without any id papers or check

I have crossed that border more times than you have had hot meals -- Don't show your frustration - we don't say these things so you can be upset, we know what we are talking about.

hope you know that heavy earth moving machinery is required to build tunnels in the muntains and all such equipment is available with US and indian army in Afghanistan

Brother man, speak of things you actually know of first hand - examine the relationship between agents/importers of 2nd hand equipment in UAE and buyers in Pakistan -- Listen, Batman, just chill - yes, we got this one, they is deadmen!

 

[Enigma SIG]

because they were never a problem before, duhhhhhhh!


were there ever any or many suicide bomb in iraq before us invasions - NO

were there ever any or many suicide bombs in afghanistan before US invasion - NO

were there ever any or many suicide bombs in pakistan before us invasions/interference - NO

the united states has brought suicide bombers, death, destabilisation, destruction and poverty plus some more in all these countries, whats to be proud about?

Easy for you to say; but these takfiri's had been killing many since long; saddam killed thousands of shias during his brutal reign. People's legs were tied to 2 horses and were directed in different directions. the poor guy would just split in 2 and die a most gruesome death. Shaheed Baqir ul Sadr was shot dead in the mehraab by Saddam's soldiers; he is now known as Shaheed e Mehrab.

Just because the Shias were on the receiving end doesn't mean that everything was fine and dandy in Iraq Afghanistan or Pakistan.

Taliban killed so many shias in afghanistan (the hazaras) who later took refuge in quetta.

Shias were killed all over pakistan since lanti zia ul haq came to power; and more now all over the western border in Parachinar; Gilgit; Hangu; DI Khan and DG Khan. You nurtured the Sipah Sahaba; Lashkar e Jhangvi and gave them free hand to kill shias all over the place, what goes around comes around.

You are gauging violence by only mentioning suicide bombs which eventually killed our own people, until the Shias were getting killed you upheld your silence.

America does have a role to play in all the havoc that is engulfing the ME and Pakistan; but we too took a stance on one matter and turned a blind eye towards the other...

 

[S-2]

"the Fauj outCOINED US efforts..."

We don't have your army's size nor the luxury of a selective and discrete application within a tiny confined area like SWAT. Thank goodness that you rose off your rears to defend yourselves at all.

THAT was a questionable proposition five months ago.

Your gratuitous self-congratulations have hardly out-COINed Bajaur free of these devils and SWAT remains in contention if continuing arrests indicate anything.

Then there's the Islamic Emirate of Waziristan. Call me when you've tidied that up and maybe we can discuss the omnipotence of the Fauj.

 

[BATMAN]

Batman, Sir,
See muse has the right ticket. What better revenge could you have over the Americans and Indians who are tormenting you then killing their Pakistani dogs? It will drive the Americans and Indians nuts! They will be sooooooooo angry that their carefully and oh-so secretly nurtured forces of evil have been found out and eliminated. In that there should be total Pakistani unity among the adherents of all conspiracy theories.

Yes Americans have finally killed the shadowy bastard Mehsud....perhaps when he was not required same as they killed generla Zia and many other generals incl. their own ambassador!
Complicit Durrani won American passport.
It is typical to shoot the shooter when it is not required or he knows too much.

Problem with Pakistan is that it is not in good hands and they are not prading the proofs of US complicity in killing Pakistan school girls to media but this ensure the American residencship of Zardaris children.

 

[jamalahmedkhan17]

Your opinion is not based on facts. You have no proof of how many "innocent" people have been killed in drone strikes. I can say ZERO and you cannot prove me wrong.

Yes you can say this! As your hands are filled up with red color so you can't distinguish between the dead and alive. Which prove you are asking for??? Don't you look what the deadly game you are playing in the world for the sake of your grand strategic objectives, such as;

*Control of Global Fuel Assets
*Control of Global Trading Routes
*Defense and Security of Israel
*Containment and Destruction of political and militant Islam
*Encirclement of China
*Encirclement of Russia

What really is war on terror?? Is it really a war on terror??? Or its just for the fulfillment of your false objectives, One World Government or other devil's desires...

But one thing i want to make you sure.. Pakistan is fighting against the terror as state within an state can't be acceptable any more. And Our Army and think tanks are aware of your dramatic excuse of terror.

 

[BATMAN]

I have crossed that border more times than you have had hot meals -- Don't show your frustration - we don't say these things so you can be upset, we know what we are talking about.

You will never stop with your ranting or let me say provocative remarks....don't you? what can you do if you have lost argument!
You are under the wrong impression that you are more wise than others.
let me say.... that you have less hot meals in your life than the borders i have crossed in my short life.
If you know Pak Afghan border so well than please share us the logic of US complaints about terrorist crossing the borders from Pakistan into Afghanistan while they have no presence on borders.
All attacks on NATO convoys are facilitated by border guards of Afghan National Army as people have witnessed them hurrying up the vehicles shooting at NATO supplies.

Brother man, speak of things you actually know of first hand - examine the relationship between agents/importers of 2nd hand equipment in UAE and buyers in Pakistan -- Listen, Batman, just chill - yes, we got this one, they is deadmen!

I know what i'm talking....... i trust i know about civil engineering more than you and i know Dubai and import export bussines.
You give me the name of one importer who posses drilling machine to build tunnels?

 

[muse]

We don't have your army's size nor the luxury of a selective and discrete application within a tiny confined area like SWAT. Thank goodness that you rose off your rears to defend yourselves at all

.

Pot calling the kettle black?? Why don't you have the army size??? huh? What was that?? What the heck have you accomplished in your 8 years?? Where are your Afghans?? A work in progress?? 41 nations etc.,?? More As* than class??

Your gratuitous self-congratulations have hardly out-COINed Bajaur free of these devils and SWAT remains in contention if continuing arrests indicate anything

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We have a success to celebrate, do you?? Arrests in Swat suggest that surrender continues to be a option taken seriously by the Talib foot soldiers - Are you? Have you? experienced the same A'stan??
Do tell.

Then there's the Islamic Emirate of Waziristan. Call me when you've tidied that up and maybe we can discuss the omnipotence of the Fauj

When That's done, it will be time for you to be getting things together to Afghanize the effort in Afghanistan.

Why so much As* at Pakistani success?? Would you rather a record as dismal as yours in A'stan??

BTW, where are those Afghans of yours, you know the NA boys, what happened to them, how come they are not in the fight??

 

[S-2]

"...can't be acceptable any more."

How nice that "any more" is no longer acceptable! And the decades of blood on your hands before such a revelation born from your sense of survival is explained how?

"any more" says it all for the calculated campaign of duplicity and subterfuge centered around your proxy wars. That it took your attack dogs approaching within sixty miles of your capitol to achieve such an awakening is your good fortune, I suppose.

Self-preservation is a good thing.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

r3alist:

I agree with some of your points, and I agree with the gist of your criticizm of non-combatants dying when a drone targets the Taliban/AQ, but I also think your position is somewhat irrational given the circumstances.

The Taliban and AQ leadership is not out in plain sight, or else we would have drone and air strikes day in and day out killing these people. It takes a lot of effort and intelligence to get good enough information to target them, and even then one cannot be sure that the objective was achieved.

If not through drone strikes (and I agree that it is Pakistan that should be controlling them) and airstrikes, then how?

This is not Karachi or Lahore where you can put a cordon around a house and take out your target. These men live in isolated areas, remote villages often, where their men have bought or terrorized the locals into supporting them, and their men span the surrounding countryside.

Think about what the alternatives are - you would have to airlift troops into hostile terrain (choppers most likely), they would be heard coming frm miles away, you would likely come under fire as soon as you landed, and would have to wage a pretty bloody battle to get even close to any HVT's, who would have tried making their escape as soon as an attack was confirmed, while their minions fought it out.

And even if our troops managed to fight everyone off and surrounded the HVT, do you think there would be no collateral damage?

 

[muse]

And the decades of blood on your hands before such a revelation

And when US was in bed with Saddam?? And when George Bush invited and met the same talib in Houston??

I understand you want to "nail' em" - but at least be reasonable, is there anybody around without blood on their hands??

Still can't tell friend from foe!

 

[pakdefender]

"the Fauj outCOINED US efforts..."

We don't have your army's size nor the luxury of a selective and discrete application within a tiny confined area like SWAT. Thank goodness that you rose off your rears to defend yourselves at all.

THAT was a questionable proposition five months ago.

Your gratuitous self-congratulations have hardly out-COINed Bajaur free of these devils and SWAT remains in contention if continuing arrests indicate anything.

Then there's the Islamic Emirate of Waziristan. Call me when you've tidied that up and maybe we can discuss the omnipotence of the Fauj.

Currently the Taliban insurgency is the strongest in Afghansitan and NATO and ISAF have no control over the country side from where the Taliban operate. Americans need to focus there rather than fretting about Swat,Bajur and Waziristan so call us when you have things under control there

I suppose they dont teach in the US Military but even in our Cadet Colleges when a given objective is not met no excuses are entertained.

In the college I studied in after holiday we just HAD to be in by 6:00 pm the day the holidays eneded and coming up with an excuse that the traffic jam and the bus got delaysed or such no one listened to it and one either went of extra drill or got a red strp.

So dont come with excuses , it makes your military look bad.

The US military's excuse 'they have a sanctuary in Pakistan' is just that an excuse.

I mean are they THAT swift on their feet that you cant stop them getting into our country ?!?

This same excuse was used to attack Cambodia when you were taking casulaties in Vietnam. You LOST that war and you havent learnt your lesson.

Hope this tiny lesson in being a 'bloody excuser' from a Pakistani Cadet College will give the US Military professionals something to think about.

 

[S-2]

"What the heck have you accomplished in your 8 years??"

Avoided another 9/11. You? Seems you slept-walked through the abdication of your country. Nice that you've started to consider taking it back.

"Where are your Afghans??"

Right next to OUR Pakistanis. Side by side steeped in the traditions of corruption, brigandry, and communal violence.

"A work in progress??"

And your excuse after sixty years of independance is...?

"41 nations etc.,??"

You can count. Good. That's forty-one nations wondering why you pose such an impediment to their objectives and resenting it daily. Your explanation to all those nations would be...?

"We have a success to celebrate, do you??"

SWAT? If you say so.

We've no successes to speak of in Afghanistan other than to look back and know we've avoided to date more 9/11s. Please note that wouldn't be the case had Afghanistan's enemies not found succor and sanctuary on YOUR lands.

No traction otherwise, remember?

Celebrate away.

"Would you rather a record as dismal as yours in A'stan??"

Dismal? Hardly. Dismal was the legacy of mentorship you provided. Dismal is a legacy of unremitting war since 1978. Dismal is an external insurgency fostered by their neighboring state and erstwhile dominator.

Dismal is their prospect should we leave and subject them to more of Pakistan's tender ministrations.

"BTW, where are those Afghans of yours, you know the NA boys..."

Well, they aren't in Quetta, are they?