Terrorist takes Australian cafe customers hostage:

[Special Delivery]

Oh so there is a relation. The spice, the worms, is there a connection? When an ideology preaches it is perfect and it is the sole truth, then extremist movements founded on bigotry will inevitably arise.

Which ideology doesn't preach it is perfect? Just by your derogatory tone I can tell you feel that you are superior in some way. I'm not even Muslim and I can make the distinction between Islam and it's radical terrorist offshoots quite well. You have an axe to grind pal, lighten up.

 

[Pakistani E]

I presented my argument and you didn't have a counter-argument. Your only argument is "Everyone knows" which is let's be honest here, not an argument at all. "Everyone knows we are secretly controlled by Aliens" "Everyone knows that the world is controlled by the Illuminati" See, I can do it too.

What is the one thing that is common between Al Qaeda, ISIS and the House of Sau'd?

 

[alaungphaya]

Which ideology doesn't preach it is perfect? Just by your derogatory tone I can tell you feel that you are superior in some way. I'm not even Muslim and I can make the distinction between Islam and it's radical terrorist offshoots quite well. You have an axe to grind pal, lighten up.

Don't deflect ad hominem. I'm not trying to be superior but your claim that wahhabism is unrelated to islam is just not true. Pretty much all the non-Abrahamics don't preach superiority or claim they are perfect.

 

[Gunsnroses]

You are the kind of filth that make British Pakistanis look bad. You want others to not generalize Muslims for a lone wolf, which is an absolutely fair request but at the same time you have no hesitation to use racial slurs against Hindus. Bloody stinky hypocrite.

I need not your certificate of clearance, but I know well about you and your ilk.

 

[Special Delivery]

Don't deflect ad hominem. I'm not trying to be superior but your claim that wahhabism is unrelated to islam is just not true. Pretty much all the non-Abrahamics don't preach superiority or claim they are perfect.

It is not related to Islam in the way that you are trying to correlate it, otherwise the Ottomans wouldn't have taken off so many Wahhabi heads in the Arabian desert in the 18th and 19th centuries.

 

[Mosamania]

What is the one thing that is common between Al Qaeda, ISIS and the House of Sau'd?

They are all Sunnis? Is that it? Is that your argument? So you are saying that I was right all along that you classify a Wahabi as "Sunni Muslim with a gun". Don't get me wrong here, I hate religious extremist with every ounce of my being, the sight of them makes me sick, and it sets my soul on fire. I wish nothing but death and misery upon them.

Howevver where you and I differ is that my hate is based on rational thinking and objective finding and years of relentless study, yours is merely based on hearsay, and in fact unfactual and your argument as a result is quite weak. When you are ready to really learn objectively as to the cause of terrorism instead of assigning a sect to it, and then moving on to labelling them as None muslims, or whatever, then you my friend are no different than the religious extremists at all. And I consider you both two sides of the same vile coin in mentality. If you truly wish to learn the origin of the modern Islamic extremism ask me and I will answer you. But I really do hate ignorant hearsay blabberings.

 

[jaunty]

I need not your certificate of clearance, but I know well about you and your ilk.

No, you don't need my certificate, your posts are doing a mighty fine job at it. I just pointed that out for everyone to see. Good bye!

 

[Mosamania]

The teachings of Muhammad Ibn Abdel Wahhab. Simple as that. With its birthplace being the Najd region, where your monarchists roam from as well. If one studies Islam at the Medina university one is studying an almost pure form of Wahhabism, where there is limited space for other strict Sunni teachings, but only very limited as I have already said. This ideology that has roamed out of your deserts is one of the reasons why Sufism, which had major influence in the Arab world, has taken a beaten by extremist Wahhabism.

Sadfuly while you present an argument, or at least try to, is not factual. To truly understand the origin of Islamic extremism one must understand the Saud-Faisal schism, the Cold war, The Saud movement, the Ikhwan, and Sayyed Qutb. And how they all play together and intertwine. To simply point fingers and say "It is from this land, burn it, burn it to hell" is the argument I would suspect from a shoe, or a mentality close to that of a shoe.

 

[T-Faz]

Prove it then. @T-Faz I see that you too are riding the stupid train as well. Come on I dare you as well to prove it, or maybe the correct definition of Wahhabism is "Any Muslim who refuses to suck Khameni's co*k when asked", that is the correct interpretation. Maybe you too would like to do that don't you? Would be an "honor" I am sure.

I can't be bothered anymore with all these sectarian/theological debates. I have other bigger issues which I need to resolve first. I need to find a new job, a new girlfriend etc.

But for honours sake, please see the Urban Dictionary definition below:

Wahabis : a state of extreme confusion

Wow im so wahabis'd right now!
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Source: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Wahabis&utm_source=search-action

And Khomeni or Khameni is a cock too. He revived political Islam in the Muslim world.

 

[alaungphaya]

It is not related to Islam in the way that you are trying to correlate it, otherwise the Ottomans wouldn't have taken off so many Wahhabi heads in the Arabian desert in the 18th and 19th centuries.

I imagine it's because they were a threat to the central polity. Business is business, politics is politics. There are myriad examples of Muslim on Muslim violence. The Ottomans are no exception.

 

[Mosamania]

I can't be bothered anymore with all these sectarian/theological debates. I have other bigger issues which I need to resolve first. I need to find a new job, a new girlfriend etc.

But for honours sake, please see the Urban Dictionary definition below:

Wahabis : a state of extreme confusion

Wow im so wahabis'd right now!
​

Source: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Wahabis&utm_source=search-action

And Khomeni or Khameni is a cock too. He revived political Islam in the Muslim world.

Then you must understand that the "Wahhabi label" is actually a modern revival by Khomeni and his successor in his Anti-Arab propaganda that the entire world swallowed up like a **** star swallows hot jizz. Which is why they always make sure to add the word "Wahhabi" "Extremism" and "Saudi" almost always in the same sentence, and one of the basics of propaganda is that if you say something enough times then people will believe it.

 

[Special Delivery]

I imagine it's because they were a threat to the central polity. Business is business, politics is politics. There are myriad examples of Muslim on Muslim violence. The Ottomans are no exception.

It's more than "Muslim on Muslim" violence. The Ottomans were Muslims and they represented the height of civilization and diplomacy at the time and maintained alliances with Christian powers as well, while the people who were trying to establish an ultra orthodox Caliphate similar to ISIS had been eating locusts in the desert since their empires collapsed on them due to radicalization and isolation. Somehow they believed that based on their interpretation of one faith they were fit to rule. The right to rule over others doesn't come from spilling blood alone.

 

[Gunsnroses]

No, you don't need my certificate, your posts are doing a mighty fine job at it. I just pointed that out for everyone to see. Good bye!

Nah...in actual, MY posts exposed how baniya mind manipulates the facts and tries to find any and every opportunity to bash Muslims and spread stinky filth.

Go get some rest

Edit: not all baniyas but those who are quick to jump to include Muslims in their filth.

 

[Pakistani E]

They are all Sunnis? Is that it? Is that your argument? So you are saying that I was right all along that you classify a Wahabi as "Sunni Muslim with a gun". Don't get me wrong here, I hate religious extremist with every ounce of my being, the sight of them makes me sick, and it sets my soul on fire. I wish nothing but death and misery upon them.

Howevver where you and I differ is that my hate is based on rational thinking and objective finding and years of relentless study, yours is merely based on hearsay, and in fact unfactual and your argument as a result is quite weak. When you are ready to really learn objectively as to the cause of terrorism instead of assigning a sect to it, and then moving on to labelling them as None muslims, or whatever, then you my friend are no different than the religious extremists at all. And I consider you both two sides of the same vile coin in mentality. If you truly wish to learn the origin of the modern Islamic extremism ask me and I will answer you. But I really do hate ignorant hearsay blabberings.

What I am referring to is the ideology that is exploiting its similarity with the Salafis by recruiting impressionable young people and turning them towards following their extremist and violent political ideology. And please, Al Qaeda, ISIS etc are not Sunnis. They have killed the most Sunnis around the world. They are what I referred to as the splinter group of extremists who exploit the good name of Salafis and paint themselves as the defenders of the Ummah.

 

[rmi5]

How does it feel to know terrorist turned out to be "Akhoond" ?

How do you feel that he was another committed sunni?
For me, it means that the cancer of wahabism, becomes more important than ones race, ...
Look at the list below to find it out:

@Mosamania

Al Qaeda- Wahabi
ISIS- Wahabi
Taliban Pakistan- Deobandi/Wahabi
Taliban Afghanistan- Deobandi/Wahabi
Ansar Bayt al-Maqdis- Wahabis
al-Nusrah Front- Wahabi
Ansar al-Shari'a in Benghazi- Wahabi
Ansar al-Dine (AAD)- Wahabi
Boko Haram- Wahabi
al-Qa'ida in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP)- Wahabi
Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG)- Wahabi
al-Shabaab- Wahabi
Islamic Jihad Union (IJU)- Wahabi
Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU- Wahabi
Ahrar al-Sham- Wahabi
etc

September 11 attacks- Wahabis
Madrid Train bombings- Wahabis
London Bombings- Wahabis
Bali Bombings- Wahabis
etc

Now look at which people commit terrorist atrocities around the world. Yep you guessed it, 99% of them are linked to either these groups or are influenced by the same ideology i.e Wahabism.

Very informative post
Another proof that the cancer of wahabism needs to be stopped.

this is what he said in his FB account :

In December 2014 Haron announced that he used to be a Rafidi [shia] but he had converted to Islam [added by me : probably he means wahhabism], he announced it both on his website and his Facebook Page

What I was expecting ... He was another moron from wahabis