Terrorist takes Australian cafe customers hostage:

[Falcon29]

I just saw report that he was killed? Did all hostages come out of this safe? Hope so.

 

[Mosamania]

Your timeline is heavier on the Saudi side, and it makes sense considering the clout Saudi Arabia has. I also think that without Saudi Arabia, Islamic extremism would still be a major issue because of a lack of reformation in Islam.

Islam is too easy to hijack only because its adherents do not question its purpose in the time we live in.

Yes that is because my timeline is heavily condensed, otherwise in reality it would look a bit different it would be much much longer if I am to include all important events in detail. I just hope people stop pointing fingers at Saudi Arabia as the cause of this, we are as much a victim of US-Soviet cold war tactics as everyone else.

This thread has nothing to do with KSA but concerns a Farsi terrorist that was just killed in Canada. None of the people discussing here are historians nor experts on those topics and everyone has their own bias. Pointless discussion.

There was a Muslim with a gun, of course everyone would start pointing fingers at Saudi Arabia immediately. What did you think will happen?

 

[atatwolf]

He was Iranian. Two hours ago they neutralized him.

 

[Special Delivery]

looks like they shot this bastard...we already have mass demonstrations in europe against islam. This is water on the mills

I was once in the shoes of those protesting whole heartedly against Islam. After many years working with various agencies, I realized that most Muslims are not only victims of the Islamists themselves, but have many security personnel making sacrifices in fighting terrorism. No Muslim country is fighting terrorism harder than Pakistan nor can they realize the turnaround that took place from one day supporting the Taliban under Saudi orders, to carrying out waves upon waves of operations against these goat **ers.

Don't let the "Clash of Civilizations" scholars fool you. It is not East vs. West...it is civilization versus chaos, righteousness versus cancer. Those in Europe need to realize that Muslims are in the fight with them more or less. To produce blanket statements that villify the innocent majority of Muslims is doing the terrorists a favor and giving them the cover and recruiting tools they need.

 

[atatwolf]

looks like they shot this bastard...we already have mass demonstrations in europe against islam. This is water on the mills

This iranian guy who got shot looks like a total noob compared to Breivik. Europe's criminals are more succesful. Look at Hitler.

 

[MarkusS]

I was once in the shoes of those protesting whole heartedly against Islam. After many years working with various agencies, I realized that most Muslims are not only victims of the Islamists themselves, but have many security personnel making sacrifices in fighting terrorism. No Muslim country is fighting terrorism harder than Pakistan nor can they realize the turnaround that took place from one day supporting the Taliban under Saudi orders, to carrying out waves upon waves of operations against these goat **ers.

Don't let the "Clash of Civilizations" scholars fool you. It is not East vs. West...it is civilization versus chaos, righteousness versus cancer. Those in Europe need to realize that Muslims are in the fight with them more or less. To produce blanket statements that villify the innocent majority of Muslims is doing the terrorists a favor and giving them the cover and recruiting tools they need.

I realize this. But it does not change the fact. There comes the day where you decide if you want take the risk...or fight it.

This iranian guy who got shot looks like a total noob compared to Breivik. Europe's criminals are more succesful. Look at Hitler.

I wonder why security in australia waited so long. This should have been ended in its initial minutes.

 

[Special Delivery]

I realize this. But it does not change the fact. There comes the day where you decide if you want take the risk...or fight it.

I realize that as well. But Europe has been down that path. It would be better to expose and isolate the real enemy instead of pissing off a lot of people and getting nothing accomplished at the end of the day.

 

[flamer84]

Reports that 2 civilians were killed.

May they Rest In Peace.

 

[Mosamania]

I realize this. But it does not change the fact. There comes the day where you decide if you want take the risk...or fight it.




I wonder why security in australia waited so long. This should have been ended in its initial minutes.

Extremism is a quicksand, the more you fight it the more you sink in, keep that in mind. You run the risk of being extremist yourself.

 

[SSG_Commando]

I am telling you there will going to be more false flag stunts like the one just happened in Australia. Most probably in India and any NATO member countries. This has nothing to do with Islam, but NEO Cons or should I be particular NATO are up to something. ISI and Axis should be vary of the situation. ISIS propaganda isnt going well for NATO and their allies as people arent buying the Frankenstein monster completely like Al-Qeda. They want to boost ISIS rating and such occurrences will do just that. My prediction their will be a drama in India sooner than you think.

 

[flamer84]

I am telling you there will going to false flag stunt like the one in Australia in India and any NATO member countries. This has nothing to do with Islam, but they are up to something. ISI and Axis should be vary of the situation. ISIS propaganda isnt going well for NATO and their allies and people arent buying they desperately want to boost ISIS rating and this is such things will do just that.

"Bip,bip",loonatic alert.

 

[SSG_Commando]

I urge ISI to keep a close look at Mullah-for-sale idiots. Especially the ones like Lal-Masjid and the ones in Tribal belt. There is strong chance a drama will be set in India soon or there is a possibility in any of their embassies in world like Afghanistan or Middle East and these idiots will try to take responsibility to you know what . Better prepared to counter it before they can think.

 

[MarkusS]

Extremism is a quicksand, the more you fight it the more you sink in, keep that in mind. You run the risk of being extremist yourself.

Europe has a long history to deal with such things. And i guess it will become ugly. Usually it reaches a point of no return and then escalates.

 

[SSG_Commando]

"Bip,bip",loonatic alert.

Beep beep, a fool on the forum!!! This is defense forum and for those who do analysis. If you want to throw your emotions throw it somewhere else.

 

[gau8av]

ISI and Axis should be vary of the situation.

axis of evil ?