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whoever was behind this mass slaugter of innocent children and civilian is a psychopath and needs to be hunted down and brought to justice.

Glibness/superficial charm
Grandiose sense of self-worth
Pathological lying
Cunning/manipulative
Lack of remorse or guilt
Emotionally shallow
Callous/lack of empathy
Failure to accept responsibility for own actions

Sounds pretty much like Baitullah Mehsud to me.
 
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EDITORIAL: Pakistan’s war for survival

A car stuffed with 150kg of explosive material has been blown up with remote control in a busy bazaar of Peshawar, killing over a hundred innocent citizens and injuring over two hundred. This is the big escalation that should convince the nay-sayers in the war against terrorism in Pakistan. The enemy has clearly defined himself and cannot be interpreted as a “wronged party” whose cause must be “understood” as a part of the process of removing the “roots” of terrorism.

It is too late for that kind of diagnosis. Now it is the survival of Pakistan which is at stake and the lives of the women and children of the NWFP which have to be answered for. The NWFP government has understood what the killers are trying to do. It says, “We may all die in the process but we will not stop fighting the terrorists”. This statement comes from a mind that knows that the war against terrorism has gone beyond the point where “talks” could bring peace. This is the attitude which must prevail in Pakistan so that the country can stand united against the Taliban and their foreign killers.

The terrorists have now turned to killing common people gathered in markets and other public places. This was the second such “blind” attack in Peshawar telling us that now the war is no longer tied to any ideology but is a war to the end. The new strategy has been embraced because the post-Baitullah action from the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) has not been too effective. There are signs of failure written all over the attacks suffered by Pakistan. In these cases the TTP “success” was limited to creating fright; and in most cases the terrorists have been traced with remarkable ease.

TTP’s new leader Hakimullah has always been reputed to be less scrupulous in his thinking than his predecessor Baitullah. His approach has become more unscrupulous after the scattering of the TTP and the arrest of a large number of second-echelon Taliban leaders. He is reckless and unmindful of the unpopularity the TTP will earn among the people. The new development — as in the case of the GHQ attack — is that intelligence against the elements that assist the TTP has improved. The attacks against the FIA headquarters and the two police centres in Lahore were of weak intent and were thwarted in their objective by the response of the police.

Action by the Pakistan Army has helped in strengthening the resolve of the common man to endure the hardship of war against the Taliban. Where it has operated, local populations have formed their own private militias and begun to hunt elements that killed their women and children. Once intimidated by warlords in Khyber and Malakand, they are now willing to defend the state if the state is willing to fight back. The “normalisation” of the Swat-Malakand region, once predicted to be of long haul, has taken place rapidly because of the support of the people who were subjected to the cruelty of the utopia that people like Sufi Muhammad had promised them over the past quarter century.

The war is going well in South Waziristan but the impression it makes in the rest of the country is mixed because of the lack of unity over the war among our politicians. They are in fact divided over matters other than war and treat war against terrorism as a kind of distraction. Sitting in parliament, the political parties have given the go-ahead to the war against terrorism but continue to differ over its details. The two mainstream parties are locked in a battle for another kind of survival. The PMLN says it supports the war against terrorism but differs in detail when it pleads for a focus on the “root cause”. The truth is that it is already too late to look for the “root cause”.

The root cause of war is in fact clear and present: the terrorists are killing our women and children. They are damaging our economy by scaring away domestic and international investment. They want Pakistan to collapse into a “state of nature” to serve them as the hub of their global terror. Pakistan has to fight them and see to it that the international community is lined up behind it with every kind of support and sympathy.

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan
 
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Cyril Almeida - DAWN

As things fall apart around us, it is a struggle to make sense of any of it. Hold your head or cover your face or curl up in the fetal position, escape is impossible.It’s there in the newspapers, on news channels, the streets, homes and offices: the graphic, almost ghoulish, intersection of war and politics in this country. And nobody, not one person screeching on TV or expounding in private, is truly able to explain what is happening.

After months of a quasi-siege of the Baitullah Mehsud network’s lairs in South Waziristan, the army has finally moved in. We were told, in private and sometimes on the record, that there were around 10,000 militants there who needed to be killed or captured. But where have they gone? The ISPR’s figures don’t add up; a dozen killed here, a handful captured there, a few score killed or injured elsewhere.

Strongholds of the militants have fallen and been retaken by the army, but it sure doesn’t seem like there is an army of 10,000 militants waiting to fight to the death.

Have the militants done the equivalent of circling the wagons in a small area? Or have they laid elaborate defences to trip up the army and escaped elsewhere?

I can’t help but recall a short, telling exchange at a briefing in Islamabad on the eve of Operation Rah-i-Nijat. The army official was confident that the militants couldn’t flee to Afghanistan because there is a strip of land between the Mehsud strongholds and the Pak-Afghan border where troops were lying in wait to snare the militants.

Yes, but could they not escape via North Waziristan, asked one of the country’s better-informed militancy analysts. If there was an answer, I didn’t hear it and the briefing moved on.

A central problem of the military operations undertaken in the last year and a half is now becoming apparent: the TTP militants have fanned out in so many parts of Fata and northwest Pakistan that the army may be trapped in a dangerous game of whack-a-mole.

Swat, Malakand division, Bajaur, Mohmand, Khyber and now South Waziristan — that’s already a long list of areas in which operations have been undertaken. But, from a security point of view, the alarming thing is that after each area the army enters, new threats begin to be pointed out elsewhere.

Even as the operation in South Waziristan continues, fears have been raised about a ‘second base’ of the militants in Kurram and Orakzai agencies. We have seen this before; during Operation Rah-i-Rast in Malakand division, South Waziristan was pointed out as the ‘centre of gravity’ of militancy. Before that, during the operations in Bajaur and Mohmand, other areas were similarly pointed out.

It is too soon to say, but the army must be aware of the possibility of being dragged into a quagmire, a situation in which it is forced to fan out across Fata and NWFP to deny the militants a ‘base’ but unable to do anything about the militants’ preferred tactic of striking at the soft underbelly of the state inside the country’s cities and towns.

Of course, a counter-insurgency was always going to be a drawn-out, messy affair and these are early days yet, but given the sub-optimal nature of the state it’s not clear if a sequential approach to counter-insurgency can win this war. By sequential I don’t just mean a series of military operations in various parts of the country, but the other crucial element of a successful counter-insurgency: counter-terrorism measures, especially in the cities and towns.

At the moment, the intelligence and law-enforcement agencies seem simply overwhelmed by the wave of violence in Pakistan’s cities and they are playing a desperate game of catch-up. The government of the day will always get the blame for these failures, and to an extent that is correct, but the fact is the issue goes deeper than that: the state itself is not geared towards effective, let alone adequate, counter-terrorism measures.

The militants will know that if they can sustain a wave of terrorist violence across the country, pressure will build on the army and the government in the weeks and months ahead for ‘peace talks’ and ‘deals’ that will once again give the militants’ breathing space in their tribal strongholds. But strengthening the intelligence, surveillance and law-enforcement planks to stop, or at least slow down, the wave of violence is not just a matter of throwing more resources at the problem.

More resources are needed, absolutely, but time and time again knowledgeable analysts point to something else: the lack of will in the army to call a spade a spade and to discard its prioritisation approach, wherein it only regards those groups which are directly, repeatedly and ferociously attacking the state as a threat that needs to be tackled immediately.

If evidence for this was needed, it came during that same briefing on the eve of Operation Rah-i-Nijat. The Laskhar-i-Taiba, we were told, was being deliberately conflated with Al Qaeda as part of an Indian plan to get the state here to do something about a problem that bothered the Indians the most.

There was an acceptance that south Punjab did pose some problem and the correct approach of using civilian agencies rather than the army to fight it was admitted, but you can’t help but wonder: how genuinely can we be fighting all elements of the toxic brew of militancy in the country today when the army is still trotting out the Indian propaganda line?

And the obvious corollary: how can we expect to win this war if we aren’t fighting all the pieces in the militancy jigsaw? Have a look at the names and domiciles of the militants blamed for the current wave of violence in the country. At least half, if not a majority, of them are Punjabi, not tribal.

The army can grimly march from one tribal agency to another for years, give its troops the best counter-insurgency training possible, get all the equipment it needs, but it will never win this war until it recognises the enemy for what it is: deadly, complex, hydra-headed and capable of growing elsewhere even as parts of it are hacked off.
 
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counter-terrorism measures, especially in the cities and towns.

this is definately required but here it is the duty of the civilian law and order forces (Police) to do their part instead of just providing security to the "elite"!!!
 
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this is definately required but here it is the duty of the civilian law and order forces (Police) to do their part instead of just providing security to the "elite"!!!

True but ...what about the support of tribal chief's, thats where your catch lies, wont you say so?
 
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Ever since we made heros of the suicide bombers and those that staged terrorist attacks on Israeli Civilians...we have been reapiing what we sowed...when we justified the first murder of civlians for poltical purpose and revenge we justfied it for every one that has a grudge agains any one...again the chickens have come home to roost,,,,can we really praise attack against civilians and condem it in another. We have raised a generation of terrorist and now we are paying the price. Allah forgive us.
 
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In modern times suicide bombings were first used by early jewish groups fighting the british ( surprisingly havent been able to find the refrence on the net but this did happen )

The doctrine of killing ones own self to destroy the enemy has its roots in the Bible.

The story of Samson is one in which he kills him self , by pulling down the pillars between which he is tied , bringing down the bulding killing himself and others ( including woemen and children ).

You can read about Samson being the first ever sucide attacker.
 
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In modern times suicide bombings were first used by early jewish groups fighting the british ( surprisingly havent been able to find the refrence on the net but this did happen )

The doctrine of killing ones own self to destroy the enemy has its roots in the Bible.

The story of Samson is one in which he kills him self , by pulling down the pillars between which he is tied , bringing down the bulding killing himself and others ( including woemen and children ).

You can read about Samson being the first ever sucide attacker.

Wow, so these so called Islamic Purist jihadis have no problems learning that from Jews.

Hights of Hipocracy
 
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In modern times suicide bombings were first used by early jewish groups fighting the british ( surprisingly havent been able to find the refrence on the net but this did happen )

The doctrine of killing ones own self to destroy the enemy has its roots in the Bible.

The story of Samson is one in which he kills him self , by pulling down the pillars between which he is tied , bringing down the bulding killing himself and others ( including woemen and children ).

You can read about Samson being the first ever sucide attacker.

Samson might have been the first ever suicide attacker, but you should not justify terrorism and suicide bombing. If you can't wake up to reality now, you never will.
 
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nobody is justifying it , I merely pointed out to Seadog that 'we' did not make 'heros' out of sucide attackers , its was done long ago in the religous bibical text.
 
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Wow, so these so called Islamic Purist jihadis have no problems learning that from Jews.

Hights of Hipocracy

Just a clarification, we are all sons of Adam and all the prophets of past are revered and respected in Islam as messengers of Allah and righteous men.

These Terrorist rascals have no real legitimate cause in Islam, however ignorance, deprivation and conflicts have given them an opportunity to misguide and brainwash the poor, desperate and bitter people into suicide bombings whereas most of the real terrorists are living off the drugs, crimes and other funding which is offered to them to carry on their destabilization campaign ...if they were doing it out of faith then it would have been mostly the leaders who would have carried out the attacks or the veterans...
Why is it that a poor 15 year old is made to carry out the suicide attack?
Because a mature person knows that it is not at all right, not worth it and certainly not allowed in Islam...it is very hard to convince a mature, sane person to kill innocents whilst committing suicide, after all they do value their hides...
 
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In modern times suicide bombings were first used by early jewish groups fighting the british ( surprisingly havent been able to find the refrence on the net but this did happen )

The doctrine of killing ones own self to destroy the enemy has its roots in the Bible.

The story of Samson is one in which he kills him self , by pulling down the pillars between which he is tied , bringing down the bulding killing himself and others ( including woemen and children ).

You can read about Samson being the first ever sucide attacker.

Why cant we just accept the fact that we have made terrorist attacks against innocents an acceptable method of attacking any one and every one that we disagree with, rather then lowering our selves to blame some one else. For Gods Sake be a man for once.
 
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