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Terrorism have no religion "List of people killed in 2008 Mumbai attack, who were Muslims.

Casualties of the 2008 Mumbai attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Names of the Muslims killed in the attack
Sohel Abdul Sheikh(5) Siddhiq Firoz Sheikh(39) Heena Sheikh (16), Shabira Majid Sheikh (40), Hasina Sheikh (20), Manora Begam (60), M ukhtar Sheikh (45), Abdul Razak (22), Frook Nasiruddin Khaliluddin (53), Asif Mohammed (26), Firoz Khan (44), Ramzan Sharif Kadar (23), Abdul Salam Qureshi(50), Fakir Mohammed (38), Unknown (40), Abdul Rashid (45), Mohammed Siddique (29), Nafisa Sadaf Qureshi (46), Unknown (60), Imran Bagwan Babu (33), Sabbir Abdul Dalal (52), Miraj Alam (24), Mumtaz Khan (28), Rehmant Ali Sheikh (17), Mohammed Ayub Abdul Ansari(25), Habibul Rahman Khan (30), Afroz Abbas Ansari (30), Mohammed Parvez Ansari (27), Ibrahim Abdul Rehman (45), Asif Babubhai Menan, Manvara Ali Sheikh (60), Hawa Begam Abdul Sheikh (25), Sahabaj Zakir Khan (29), Raziyabegum Ayub Qureshi (35)

It would be clear that Terrorism has no religion and Innocent lives have nothing to do with their barbaric acts. Need Views of members How Muslim Nations or world and Muslim community help to protect world against the terrorist. (the author of thread has nothing to do with religion or any allegation on any one, plz ignore trolls and give your valuable ideas in increasing the defence of people of the countries and world) .


Bull shit. Had terrosit knew that they are Muslims, they would not have killed them. This is a pseudo secular arguement. They plant Bombs in Hindu area. If a muslim Passing by is killed, pseudo secular argue that it terrorism has no religon etc. Bomb kill hindu as well as Muslim. If the arguement is true than why do not they plant a bomb in Mosque or in Muslim area?
 
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False flag attack.

India's list of accused consisted of village farmers who were either dead or so poor they couldn't even leave their village.

This is not language of a Pakistani.


I think Indians need to take a long hard look at their government as they are the real terrorists. They terrorize their own people and their neighbors.

Hindu extremist organisations have been accused of involvement in terrorist attacks like 2006 Malegaon blasts, Mecca Masjid bombing (Hyderabad), Samjhauta Express bombings and the Ajmer sharif dargah blast.

Please tell me OP how will Hindus help protect the world from terrorists?

First of all I condemn voilence,terrorism whether small or big,size or shape doesn't matter

it is true Hindu extremist have been accused of nvolvement in terrorist attacks like 2006 Malegaon blasts, Mecca Masjid bombing (Hyderabad), Samjhauta Express bombings and the Ajmer sharif dargah blast but so far it has not been proved. U need evidence to prove in the court of law. What about the bombing by Indian extremist Muslim orgazanization,in short no cherry picking. In case of Ajmal Kasab,he has been caught live on CCTV cameras firing at innocent ppl.
 
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False flag attack.

India's list of accused consisted of village farmers who were either dead or so poor they couldn't even leave their village.

This is not language of a Pakistani.


I think Indians need to take a long hard look at their government as they are the real terrorists. They terrorize their own people and their neighbors.

Hindu extremist organisations have been accused of involvement in terrorist attacks like 2006 Malegaon blasts, Mecca Masjid bombing (Hyderabad), Samjhauta Express bombings and the Ajmer sharif dargah blast.

Please tell me OP how will Hindus help protect the world from terrorists?

Of course Why Not.
2006 Malegaon blasts

Arrests-On 30 October, Times of India reported that first arrest is made in Malegaon blast case. This is the arrest of Noor-Ul-Hooda, an activist of the Students Islamic Movement of India.[14] The DGP of Mumbai, Mr. Pasricha said that they were very close to cracking the case and the two other suspects are Shabeer Batterywala and Raees Ahmad. On 6 November the times of India reported from Anti Terrorist Squad (ATS) that the prime conspirator Shabbir Batterywala is an operative of Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) and the co-conspirator is Raees Ahmad of SIMI.

Suspicions and press releases-The Maharashtra police initially suspected Bajrang Dal, the Lashkar-e-Toiba or the Jaish-e-Mohammed of involvement in the attacks. No evidence was released against any of these groups. On May 2006, police recovered a cache of RDX explosives and automatic rifles from the region based on information they said was provided by arrested extremist Islamists.[24][25] The arrested were former members of the Students Islamic Movement of India.

However, the
Anti Terroris Squad has prima facie ruled out the involvement of Hindu Nationalist groups like the Bajrang Dal in the Malegaon blasts citing two reasons:


  1. RDX is only available to Islamist outfits.
  2. Bajrang Dal activists so far have only used crude bombs, nothing as sophisticated as the ones in Malegaon.[29]
Ajai Sahni, an intelligence analyst who tracks terrorist groups in South Asia, also said it was unlikely to be a Hindu group because they "lacked the organisation for such an attack"


Mecca Masjid bombing

However, the South Asia Terrorism Portal,[31] the Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses,[32] the National Counterterrorism Center[33] the United States,[34] and the United Nations[35] reported that Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami was actually behind the attacks based on initial investigations. Noting this, security analyst Bahukutumbi Raman has questioned "the two different versions that have emerged from Indian and American investigators."[36] The CBI have also claimed that the United States National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC) does not seem to be up to date with the latest investigation, after the NCTC director cited HuJI as the perpetrators in a 2010 document to the United States Senate.[37] The South Asia Terrorism Portal cited Vikar Ahmed as a main suspect in the blast, and also noted that on December 3, 2008 Vikar Ahmed and an accomplice, Amjad were accused of firing at police officers attempting to arrest them in Hyderabad.[38] Vikar Ahmed also stands accused of murdering one police officer and injuring three others in an attack conducted on Friday, May 14, 2010

RDX was Used which is used by terrorist group only...................

2007 Samjhauta Express bombings

Many initial reports suggested that the prime suspects in the bombing were the Islamic groups Lashkar-e-Toiba and Jaish-e-Mohammed, both of whom have been blamed for many high-profile bombings in the past.[58] On 1 July 2009, the United States Treasury and UNSC placed sanctions on Lashkar-e-Toiba, and named Arif Qasmani as having played a role in the bombing.[59] In 2009, Qasmani was hit with a travel ban and an asset freeze by the 1267 committee of the United Nations Security Council[60] Qasmani, as of 2011, was still the United States' main suspect in the Samjhauta bombings.

Ajmer Dargah attack

Nothing to say read the article.


Brother I would like the way you reply; though few things which you need to taken in to consideration;
(1) No evidence found that abinav bharat or such organisation were behind the attack and its found that, to raise hindutva amongst people they join themselves, apparantely no proof found except that, In attacks when RDX is used is not by the so called Hindu activists.
(2) There is no Support of Government to this type of organisation or people and like sadhavi pragya they are behind bar and even not get parole, even illness.
(3) There is no Motive or Possibility that Indian Government do it, Cause Indian Government is not interested any way to raise enmity with Pakistan, or use Kashmir Issue for get votes, This streatagy is not working in India and hence Government have nothing to do in making plan for raise such type sensitivity, moreover People of India never consider those issues for voting. so any allegation of Indian Government is baseless. The few Hindu Group like abhinav told to be joined it but no proof found instead its found that such things are happen due to the get Publicity. The Congress Government is inclined to raise saffron terrorism like issues which are never be their. the muslim vote banks descard this congress policy as well.
(4) Pakistan Militery and ISI are actively interested in these type activities as are found by Indian as well as foreign governments. The statement of the US that pakistan is heaven for terrorists are enought to open the eye. Pakistan militery know that they are not able to win the war with india after 1971 lesson, as 93000 pow were surrender. Militery want to show their existence as value, and war is not possible so Terrorism is become the way, and moreover to Mislead Muslims religion part is involved. "The fight between India and Pakistan is for the Land of Kashmir, and its political issue, Islam and Hinduism has nothing to do with it. India is never to do with Islam, Quran, Muslims or anything else, so Pakistan need not to colour the War for Land as war for Religion, and India will never accept the wish of the Pakistan by consider Islam as issue. The Issue of War is only Land and not religion or spiritual beliefs."
(5) Even though their are no big organisations found with active status as terrorist organisation of Hindur, and moreover, if some exeptional acts found which are never support by people of India, Your Blames are Base less.
Exceptions are Not Rule, and Hence dont try to blame others, it would be show the your carelessness towards the serious issue.

Hope You got the answer, Terrorism is Coward act in which innocent lives are taken who were never related with directly involvement of WAR. and Bravo solves problem on Battle Field.

This is only to answer You for Baseless arguments, and yes This Thread is yet to ask positive actions for make right path for Muslim Youths who join ISIS like group and harm to people and Islam, and Muslims too. For the Attack of the 2008 Mumbai, Innocent Muslims were also killed and the reasponsible behind that has to take responsibility of their acts.......................or to say least concern of lives of innocent.
 
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I think the Taliban massacre of the poor school kids was orchestrated and planned by PA and ISI to gain sympathy from the world and also for the creation of military courts. Or else why would taliban kill kids, they obviously know they wont have public support in Pakistan if they do that. All those kids blood is in the hands of rougue PA and ISI. Taliban and India are being simply blamed to cover up their false flag attack. PA and ISI will pay for their henious crimes against the innocent and moderate citizens of Pakistan.
 
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Islam vs Rest of the World has been ongoing ever since Islam's inception. Its obvious that these two can't coexist :D
I wish you could see "Aaj Tak" & "Indian Today" these indian channel making all the tine propaganda against Islam & Muslim. Even thing happenes anywhere else around the worls, but these channels showing their sympathi.
 
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Bull shit. Had terrosit knew that they are Muslims, they would not have killed them. This is a pseudo secular arguement. They plant Bombs in Hindu area. If a muslim Passing by is killed, pseudo secular argue that it terrorism has no religon etc. Bomb kill hindu as well as Muslim. If the arguement is true than why do not they plant a bomb in Mosque or in Muslim area?

you are welcomed to derail the thread, now start accusation again :(
 
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Ajmal Qassab was an Neapli national. He even cannot read good enough Urdu. Lots of his words was into hindi language. Coward India always making propaganda against Pakistan. They have nothing to do something else than thinking about Pakistan all the time. Mar gya Pakistan, Mar gya Pakistan, Mar gya Pakistan.
 
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You guys lied about Samjhauta. I was in my hometown Lucknow when it happened and it was then reported Hindutvadis were responsible for the attack. It leaves a major, crippling dent on the credibility of the Indian narrative. Also as tankman pointed out there have been attacks conducted by Hindutvas in the country and hindutvas were the ones who killed Gandhi.

And how was Karkare killed. Wasn't he the one investigating the Samjhauta express case, and getting death threats too?

In Pakistan organizations of the right wing are banned like LEJ, Taliban and jundullah. But on the other hand RSS, shiv sena, VHP, Bajrang dal ranvir sena are free to do as they please. India does not even attempt to mess with these organizations. We are failing badly because of several reasons but at least we are fighting them.

Qoute me one place where I said Pakistan has done nothing wrong. Even antulay spoke up saying you guys were lying.

What about Pakistan's,don't they blame India for all the ills happening in their country.For eg TTP is created & supported by India. Just yesterday one of the PDF members from across the wagah border tell me that MQM terrorists r funded by RAW.
 
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you are welcomed to derail the thread, now start accusation again :(


I think that this is also a form of secularism like some secularist had written long articles like "when bomb blast, it doesn't see the community of person it kill etc etc"

However, they never said that in case of Sadhvi Pragna or swami asimanand (Against whom not a a trace of evidence could be found and their names have to be dropped from charge sheet.)
 
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As opposed to Pakistan, which is known as the citadel of religious harmony and tolerance?
That is not a response, it is a classic logical fallacy: responding to criticism with criticism.
Right, it's not like they could imitate an accent. That would be so difficult. Besides, he even said "Bhagvaan". What more proof does one require?
Would he have gone out of his way to imitate an accent in the condition he was in? He was giving up everything else, but he still had the conscience to imitate an accent?
Of course, they "could have been". Anybody "could have been", except Pakistanis and lashkars. I mean, lashkars would never hurt a fly, would they? The very word "Lashkar" means charity workers.
Are you denying that the incident happened or that it was significant enough to cause a problem?
Three or four gunmen attacking one spot in Paris, were killed only a day later. But in a much more congested and thickly populated and thinly policed city like Mumbai, terrorists attacking five different spots and being mobile and having hostages, are expected to be shot down faster, right? Because as we know, Mumbai police is better trained and armed that the gendarmaries, and Mumbai is so much more easier to navigate than Paris.
When incidents like these happen in Pakistan, everyone jumps with theories about how the fully country and the military was involved because they didn't kill the terrorists in five seconds like Indian forces would'e done. Sure, there's no doubt it was difficult, but the point questions the ability and narrative of the forces, not their intent.
And what was the result of those elections? BJP did even worse than the previous one, and a victorious congress party swept into office. What an idiotic miscalculation by the BJP. They orchestrated such a huge drama and fooled the entire world, but failed to fool the smart Indian electorate who saw right through their tricks, and refused to vote them in. Damn, if only Indian voters were as dumb as the rest of the world (minus Pakistanis, of course), the trick would have worked.
The political benefit remained, regardless of who won in the elections. And BJP won now, so you can chalk it up to the long term effects of the gradual change of political mindset in India.
Right. Lashkar-e-toiba doesn't even exist - Mr Hafiz Saeed himself said so. Only the charity wing exists. Names like "lashkar-e-toiba" were invented by conniving Indian baniyas to defame the angels of mercy like Hafiz Saeed and Lakhvi and David Coleman Headley.
If a Lashkar e Tayiba exists, it's not Hafeez Saeed that leads it. That's what he meant to say.
Yes, Pakistan said so. So it has to be true. Pakistanis never lie
Since when did the Times of India become Pakistani?
Dead, jailed terrorists still CBI's most wanted - The Times of India
I won't ask for a source or quote, because since the Sultan has said it, it must be true. Once again, he has his "several" people to rely upon.
The sources were true enough for your media and several politicians to pay heed.
RSS & 26/11: Digvijaya flags it off again, this time in Mumbai - Indian Express
Exactly. The would have come in full islamic regalia, with beards, skullcaps, shalwars, and a zulfiqar sword on their waist. That's how the 9/11 hijackers dressed, that's how any muslim trying to unobtrusively sneak in would be attired.
Most 'Islamic' attackers do try to present themselves in that way : look at the Paris shooters and Sydney hostage taker. But the point is that 'extremist Muslims' wouldn't go drink alcohol in a bar, even if they wanted to 'unobtrusively sneak in'.
Right again. The Indian Coast Guard was world renowned for being an impenetrable nautical shield, whom no smuggler or small boat could ever evade. The US coast guard was begging the ICG to train them to detect every single narco boat that plies between US and Latin America every day.
It seems to be pretty effective at blowing up random boats it doesn't like the look of. Same point about ability and narrative of the forces, as before. You people keep parroting criticisms of our forces, why so defensive when we criticise yours?
Yep. Crystal clarity is expected in such chaotic situations. Otherwise, it's a false flag drama.
''Chaotic situation'' doesn't mean ignore every discrepancy in the story.
Except that they didn't have Pakistani passports on them. There are no immigration officials posted on the coastline to check visas and passports. Oh wait - if they didn't have Pakistani passports, then they were not Pakistanis, they were Indians! Another point for your checklist!
The point is about VoIP and identification, not visas and passports.
Of course, nobody can ever accuse ISI of incompetence. Pakistan is a citadel of peace because of their competence.
ISI is a super evil and super competent demonic organization whose agents never sleep and spend their time mind controlling pigeons when the idea fits India's narrative, but then suddenly they're so incompetent (when it fits the narrative of course).

Your sarcasm and occasional strawmen show the opposite of what you're trying to show here.

Done. You are welcome.
Made for interestingly humorous discussion.

My sarcastic responses above are all you will get, we have better things to do than proving to Paksitanis that the sun rises in the east.
And we have better things to do than prove that the sun rising from the East isn't a Pakistani conspiracy.

@TankMan
what about jihad,,,its correct meaning n its contemporary usage.
lets not discuss semantics.
thats not the point.
What about it? Correct meaning is struggle. Contemporary usage among normal Muslims is still the same. It's not uncommon to hear stuff like 'this is our Jihad' in reference to normal stuff like praying in difficult conditions or charity work etc.
Only misguided non-Muslims and extremist Muslims consider Jihad to just be 'War'.

So basically you have accepted that he was Pakistani by sighting a Pakistani paper but still continue to argue that he was not.
Not. I cited* a group of Pakistani journalists (Daily Mail is not a Pakistani paper. It's British.) who claim they went to Kasab's village and identified his family.
I'm not arguing that Kasab is not Pakistani. He could've been. I'm challenging both sides' stories, just for the sake of getting a clearer picture. But obviously it shouldn't be expected when Indians and their defensive outbursts are involved.

Bull shit. Had terrosit knew that they are Muslims, they would not have killed them
So you mean to say that the terrorists don't know that the people in the mosques they bomb are Muslim? Didn't they know that the students of APS were Muslim? Don't they know that all the Syrians and Iraqis they regularly massacre are Muslim?
What a nonsensical argument.

I think the Taliban massacre of the poor school kids was orchestrated and planned by PA and ISI to gain sympathy from the world and also for the creation of military courts. Or else why would taliban kill kids, they obviously know they wont have public support in Pakistan if they do that. All those kids blood is in the hands of rougue PA and ISI. Taliban and India are being simply blamed to cover up their false flag attack. PA and ISI will pay for their henious crimes against the innocent and moderate citizens of Pakistan.
First it's Indians shouting about Pakistanis being conspiracy theorists, then we have such bull coming from the same side.

Firstly, the school was a military school. The children there were mostly the children of PA and ISI themselves. We don't need any 'sympathy from world'. PA was doing its job perfectly without any of the world's sympathy. Their 'sympathy' has done enough, they dragged us into the 'War on Terror' in the first place.

The Taliban lost their public support years ago. They couldn't care less about public support in Pakistan, they have enough recruits in the tribal areas and Afghanistan. This was, according to the Taliban themselves, a desperate revenge attack to demoralize the PA by attacking their children.

As for military courts, they could have been established without such an attack. Majority would have supported it anyways. But then we'd have people like you shouting about how ''rogue'' PA is, but we have that anyways don't we.

PA and ISI are not ''rogue''. The whole of Pakistan supports them, especially the 'moderate and innocent' citizens. So if you want to make the whole of Pakistan ''pay'', just come out and say it, no need to sugar-coat it with nonsense like that.


One thing that seems to be very unclear for most people is the simple fact that both India and Pakistan are involved in proxy warfare. That fact alone would clear up most of the confused and misguided opinions around here.
 
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That is not a response, it is a classic logical fallacy: responding to criticism with criticism.

Would he have gone out of his way to imitate an accent in the condition he was in? He was giving up everything else, but he still had the conscience to imitate an accent?

Are you denying that the incident happened or that it was significant enough to cause a problem?

When incidents like these happen in Pakistan, everyone jumps with theories about how the fully country and the military was involved because they didn't kill the terrorists in five seconds like Indian forces would'e done. Sure, there's no doubt it was difficult, but the point questions the ability and narrative of the forces, not their intent.

The political benefit remained, regardless of who won in the elections. And BJP won now, so you can chalk it up to the long term effects of the gradual change of political mindset in India.

If a Lashkar e Tayiba exists, it's not Hafeez Saeed that leads it. That's what he meant to say.

Since when did the Times of India become Pakistani?
Dead, jailed terrorists still CBI's most wanted - The Times of India

The sources were true enough for your media and several politicians to pay heed.
RSS & 26/11: Digvijaya flags it off again, this time in Mumbai - Indian Express

Most 'Islamic' attackers do try to present themselves in that way : look at the Paris shooters and Sydney hostage taker. But the point is that 'extremist Muslims' wouldn't go drink alcohol in a bar, even if they wanted to 'unobtrusively sneak in'.

It seems to be pretty effective at blowing up random boats it doesn't like the look of. Same point about ability and narrative of the forces, as before. You people keep parroting criticisms of our forces, why so defensive when we criticise yours?

''Chaotic situation'' doesn't mean ignore every discrepancy in the story.

The point is about VoIP and identification, not visas and passports.

ISI is a super evil and super competent demonic organization whose agents never sleep and spend their time mind controlling pigeons when the idea fits India's narrative, but then suddenly they're so incompetent (when it fits the narrative of course).

Your sarcasm and occasional strawmen show the opposite of what you're trying to show here.


Made for interestingly humorous discussion.


And we have better things to do than prove that the sun rising from the East isn't a Pakistani conspiracy.


What about it? Correct meaning is struggle. Contemporary usage among normal Muslims is still the same. It's not uncommon to hear stuff like 'this is our Jihad' in reference to normal stuff like praying in difficult conditions or charity work etc.
Only misguided non-Muslims and extremist Muslims consider Jihad to just be 'War'.


Not. I cited* a group of Pakistani journalists (Daily Mail is not a Pakistani paper. It's British.) who claim they went to Kasab's village and identified his family.
I'm not arguing that Kasab is not Pakistani. He could've been. I'm challenging both sides' stories, just for the sake of getting a clearer picture. But obviously it shouldn't be expected when Indians and their defensive outbursts are involved.


So you mean to say that the terrorists don't know that the people in the mosques they bomb are Muslim? Didn't they know that the students of APS were Muslim? Don't they know that all the Syrians and Iraqis they regularly massacre are Muslim?
What a nonsensical argument.


First it's Indians shouting about Pakistanis being conspiracy theorists, then we have such bull coming from the same side.

Firstly, the school was a military school. The children there were mostly the children of PA and ISI themselves. We don't need any 'sympathy from world'. PA was doing its job perfectly without any of the world's sympathy. Their 'sympathy' has done enough, they dragged us into the 'War on Terror' in the first place.

The Taliban lost their public support years ago. They couldn't care less about public support in Pakistan, they have enough recruits in the tribal areas and Afghanistan. This was, according to the Taliban themselves, a desperate revenge attack to demoralize the PA by attacking their children.

As for military courts, they could have been established without such an attack. Majority would have supported it anyways. But then we'd have people like you shouting about how ''rogue'' PA is, but we have that anyways don't we.

PA and ISI are not ''rogue''. The whole of Pakistan supports them, especially the 'moderate and innocent' citizens. So if you want to make the whole of Pakistan ''pay'', just come out and say it, no need to sugar-coat it with nonsense like that.


One thing that seems to be very unclear for most people is the simple fact that both India and Pakistan are involved in proxy warfare. That fact alone would clear up most of the confused and misguided opinions around here.


First of all I dint bother to read your reply other than the first 5-6 lines. I know your reply will be on what actually happened on that fateful day. But I can go about talking crappy conspiracy points to justify my claim just to irk some Pakistani members here. That is the same thing what you Pakistanis are doing about 26/11 and mocking the victims and the security forces who gave their lives. When most of the international community agree that the attack was indeed planned and staged from Pakistan with possibility of help from rogue elements within the ISI. Why is it so hard for many Pakistanis to accept this? I mean muslim Pakistanis kill muslim Pakistanis in the name of religion etc everyday so how hard or impossible will it be for those stupid ideology clowns to attack India and kill its Kafir citizens?
So since according to Pakistanis RSS thugs can orchestrate an attack like 26/11 just to assassinate one police officer, then according to Indians the Taliban school massacre is just a farce false flag staged by ISI.
Okay?
 
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The Indian Muslim community showed their true class and refused to accept the bodies of such scum for burial in a Muslim cemetery.

compare that reaction of Indian Muslims to the scumbags in Pakistani courts who offered prayers for that goat fcker Osama during the court times inside the premises of the courts.

what really irks people like myself is that the criticism of Pakistan is restricted to its army and these judges and lawyers escape even half as much of the criticism although they have openly shown their support for terrorism and actually actively worked to free the mass murderers
 
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First of all I dint bother to read your reply other than the first 5-6 lines.
I answered many posts in one post. Read the part that is meant for you.
I know your reply will be on what actually happened on that fateful day.
What is this supposed to mean?
That is the same thing what you Pakistanis are doing about 26/11 and mocking the victims and the security forces who gave their lives
What's mocking about 'Pakistan wasn't responsible'? We unequivocally condemn the attack itself and I apologize if it insults the victims.
When most of the international community agree that the attack was indeed planned and staged from Pakistan with possibility of help from rogue elements within the ISI.
Firstly, no country said that in any official forum or manner.
Secondly, the same ''international community'' also agreed that Iraq had WMDs and that funding rogue Syrian rebels (most of which are now ISIS) was a good idea. They believe what they want to believe
Why is it so hard for many Pakistanis to accept this?
Why is it so hard for Indians to accept that the likes of RSS are causing an equal amount of problems and are detrimental for the region's stability?
so how hard or impossible will it be for those stupid ideology clowns to attack India and kill its Kafir citizens?
This Kafir nonsense again? India's citizens are not Kafir.
The clowns can easily do whatever they want but not the Pakistani state or ISI itself. They have been fighting terrorists for a long time now. Proxy warfare is another thing that is done by both sides but they don't support things like the Mumbai attacks.

What benefit did those alleged 'rogue' elements get? Nothing, they gained nothing.

what really irks people like myself is that the criticism of Pakistan is restricted to its army and these judges and lawyers escape even half as much of the criticism although they have openly shown their support for terrorism and actually actively worked to free the mass murderers
The civilians are always angels because otherwise it wouldn't fit with the whole ''evil military oppressing poor civilians'' narrative that India worships.
 
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compare that reaction of Indian Muslims to the scumbags in Pakistani courts who offered prayers for that goat fcker Osama during the court times inside the premises of the courts.

what really irks people like myself is that the criticism of Pakistan is restricted to its army and these judges and lawyers escape even half as much of the criticism although they have openly shown their support for terrorism and actually actively worked to free the mass murderers
In my book Badal I stated another point. The lawyers, judges and even the witnesses are easy to be threatened by the Taliban militants. Suddenly entire decisions are changed. That is why military courts might come in very handy. Personally I am very critical of each and every institution that is to have had any role in the war on terror.

When we captured Ataullah (the prime suspect in the malala case) why release him? But this problem is not only for us. Look at US that released Abdullah Mehsud-and did not arrest Muslim Khan. Muslim Khan stayed in the United States, do you know? Btw Muslim Khan should have been one of the first men to have been hanged. He has been involved iin great brutality in Swat.
 
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I answered many posts in one post. Read the part that is meant for you
I answered many posts in one post. Read the part that is meant for you.

I was referring to what was meant for me .

What is this supposed to mean?
It means I m not a believer of conspiracy theory. I wholly believe the massacre was the responsibility of Taliban only. No one else.

What's mocking about 'Pakistan wasn't responsible'? We unequivocally condemn the attack itself and I apologize if it insults the victims.

If you guys condem the attack stop bringing up cooky stories.

Firstly, no country said that in any official forum or manner.
Secondly, the same ''international community'' also agreed that Iraq had WMDs and that funding rogue Syrian rebels (most of which are now ISIS) was a good idea. They believe what they want to believe

I can give you certain links where US your ally too agreed with us. About WMD and Syria is different. In this case the terrorist attach originated from Pakistan. This is a known fact. But the unknown fact is whether ISI was involved and the dept of their involvement.

Why is it so hard for Indians to accept that the likes of RSS are causing an equal amount of problems and are detrimental for the region's stability?

That is thaw problem here. As much as I hate RSS bagrang dal noobs calling them terrorists is stupid. They are a bunch of religious thugs and goondas. They are insignificant to international politics. But what they are capable of is riots not terrorist attack s which can de stabilize a region. The problem with Pakistanis is they view other religion nut bags like Islam religious nut bags. Please tell me one other religion causing so much blood for their own country. Hindu nut bags at the most create riots which can be handled by the government and the government will also act pro actively to prevent such incidents. History itself tells Islam is an expansionist religion, Hinduism is not. Also even if there are Hindu terrorists why will they attack India? They will probably attack you guys. Just because you guys have a problem with Islamic nut bags terrorisn does not mean we have a problem Hindu but bag terrorism but we do have a problem with Islamic terrorism also, a common enemy.

This Kafir nonsense again? India's citizens are not Kafir.
The clowns can easily do whatever they want but not the Pakistani state or ISI itself. They have been fighting terrorists for a long time now. Proxy warfare is another thing that is done by both sides but they don't support things like the Mumbai attacks.

May be you are right or may be you are wrong. May be 26/11 was staged with limited ISI knowledge or not. But the blame will still fall on Pakistan because even after the deaths of civilians Pakistani govt did not punish the people involved or try to prevent such attacks from taking place on a potential enemy country. Tell me one attach in recent times which has originated from India?

What benefit did those alleged 'rogue' elements get? Nothing, they gained nothing.

When you hate somebody seeing them suffer and die will be the most greatest gain than political or military gain.

The civilians are always angels because otherwise it wouldn't fit with the whole ''evil military oppressing poor civilians'' narrative that India worships.

What is this supposed to mean?

What's mocking about 'Pakistan wasn't responsible'? We unequivocally condemn the attack itself and I apologize if it insults the victims.

Firstly, no country said that in any official forum or manner.
Secondly, the same ''international community'' also agreed that Iraq had WMDs and that funding rogue Syrian rebels (most of which are now ISIS) was a good idea. They believe what they want to believe

Why is it so hard for Indians to accept that the likes of RSS are causing an equal amount of problems and are detrimental for the region's stability?

This Kafir nonsense again? India's citizens are not Kafir.
The clowns can easily do whatever they want but not the Pakistani state or ISI itself. They have been fighting terrorists for a long time now. Proxy warfare is another thing that is done by both sides but they don't support things like the Mumbai attacks.

What benefit did those alleged 'rogue' elements get? Nothing, they gained nothing.


The civilians are always angels because otherwise it wouldn't fit with the whole ''evil military oppressing poor civilians'' narrative that India worships.

My reply is in that box. I m on my phone I dunno how to multi quote sorry.
 
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