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Tejas fighter finally achieves production target

Then what India needs?Both are same class fighters.
Knew you are worthless mostly relevant with irrelevant comments.Empty skull with big hole upside.

Rafale can destroy JF-17 easily...

IAF must not assume their enemy aircraft is JF-17 but the J-20
 
It is much better than Mig 21 and slightly better than JF 17
Only if it could deploy ... Are you comparing a completely operational plane with plane not yet achieved FOC? As of now Tejas is not even given FOC for BVR missiles so techinically Tejas cannot even fire BVR missiles? So if you are comparing to be the future plan then kindly compare it with thunder blk 3 ... not with blk 1 (a decade old) or blk 2 (deployed in 2013) and is expected to complete the production in next year ...
 
Only if it could deploy ... Are you comparing a completely operational plane with plane not yet achieved FOC? As of now Tejas is not even given FOC for BVR missiles so techinically Tejas cannot even fire BVR missiles? So if you are comparing to be the future plan then kindly compare it with thunder blk 3 ... not with blk 1 (a decade old) or blk 2 (deployed in 2013) and is expected to complete the production in next year ...

The whole programme is moving forward ; though slowly

We are NOT stuck ; progress is happening

Since we have other fighters coming in ; the delays are not affecting our strength
 
The whole programme is moving forward ; though slowly

We are NOT stuck ; progress is happening

Since we have other fighters coming in ; the delays are not affecting our strength
exactly but thunder is also progressing, much faster than tejas ,,, why considering the progress of tejas while ignoring of thunder? is it fair? although I am against this competition as it always erodes the quality discussion but if you insist then either compare configurations of currently deployed model or alternatively consider future configurations expected in the same time frame ...
 
exactly but thunder is also progressing, much faster than tejas ,,, why considering the progress of tejas while ignoring of thunder? is it fair? although I am against this competition as it always erodes the quality discussion but if you insist then either compare configurations of currently deployed model or alternatively consider future configurations expected in the same time frame ...
Let's sprinkle some hard facts. it is the ONLY new fighter coming in. That's not the case here.

We are taking our time going from point defence to front line fighter design. That's because we can. There is no desperation to serve half baked cake on the table.
 
Let's sprinkle some hard facts. it is the ONLY new fighter coming in. That's not the case here.

We are taking our time going from point defence to front line fighter design. That's because we can. There is no desperation to serve half baked cake on the table.
I have no intentions to derail this thread ... otherwise there are number of analysis by your own analyst against this flawed policy ...

So the bottom line is Thunder is flying, already achieved its first kill ... improving its capabilities at a rapid pace and the pilots are learning in and outs and making war strategies ... Thunder is now active and has role in Pakistan air defense,,, in some cases it is front line defense and offense as well ... so you can analyze the status of Tejas as well ... I am not here to demean your aircraft ...
 
we dont compare with rejected Chinese FC-1. :D
I know right..

Navy rejects Tejas, says 'overweight' fighter does not meet its requirements
TNN | Updated: Dec 2, 2016, 10.37 PM IST
Highlights
  1. The Navy has rejected the naval version of the indigenous Tejas light combat aircraft
  2. Navy has said that the "overweight" fighter cannot optimally operate from aircraft carriers
55757362.jpg
Home-grown Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas became part of the Indian Air Force (IAF) family in January 2016. (TOI file photo)
NEW DELHI: The Navy has rejected the naval version of the indigenous Tejas light combat aircraft , holding that the "overweight" fighter cannot optimally operate from aircraft carriers, and is now looking to induct an alternative fighter from abroad in the next five to six years.

"We will continue to support Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), Hindustan Aeronautics (HAL) and Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) but the naval LCA in its present form unfortunately does not meet our qualitative requirements for carrier capability," said Admiral Sunil Lanba on Friday.

The single-engine Tejas, which is "too heavy", does not meet the "thrust-to-weight requirement to take off with a full fuel and arms load" from an aircraft carrier's deck. At present, the Navy has inducted over 30 of the 45 MiG-29K fighters acquired from Russia for $2 billion.
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Both the MiG-29Ks and the naval Tejas were supposed to operate from the 44,400-tonne carrier INS Vikramaditya as well as the under-construction 40,000-tonne INS Vikrant, which will be ready by 2019-2020.




"In addition to MiG-29Ks, we now need an alternative aircraft to operate from these two carriers. If you look around the world, there are not too many options available and we need this carrier-capable aircraft sooner than later. So, I am looking at next five to six years," said Admiral Lanba.




While the IAF is going to get at least 120 Tejas, under the LCA project which was cleared way back in 1983, while the Navy was supposed to get around 50 of the indigenous fighters. In August this year, IAF finally inducted the first two Tejas fighters in the 45 "Flying Daggers" Squadron+ , which will be fully constituted with 20 jets only by 2018.




IAF had earlier ordered 40 Tejas jets, with the defence ministry in November giving the initial approval for procurement of another 83 Tejas Mark-1A fighters from HAL for Rs 50,025 crore. The Mark-1A version, which is the one IAF really wants, will be ready only by 2020 or so. It will have an AESA (active electronically scanned array) radar and advanced electronic warfare (EW) suite, as also be capable of mid-air refuelling and firing advanced BVR (beyond visual range) missiles.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...eet-its-requirements/articleshow/55756350.cms
 
I know right..

Navy rejects Tejas, says 'overweight' fighter does not meet its requirements
TNN | Updated: Dec 2, 2016, 10.37 PM IST
Highlights
  1. The Navy has rejected the naval version of the indigenous Tejas light combat aircraft
  2. Navy has said that the "overweight" fighter cannot optimally operate from aircraft carriers
55757362.jpg
Home-grown Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas became part of the Indian Air Force (IAF) family in January 2016. (TOI file photo)
NEW DELHI: The Navy has rejected the naval version of the indigenous Tejas light combat aircraft , holding that the "overweight" fighter cannot optimally operate from aircraft carriers, and is now looking to induct an alternative fighter from abroad in the next five to six years.

"We will continue to support Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), Hindustan Aeronautics (HAL) and Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) but the naval LCA in its present form unfortunately does not meet our qualitative requirements for carrier capability," said Admiral Sunil Lanba on Friday.

The single-engine Tejas, which is "too heavy", does not meet the "thrust-to-weight requirement to take off with a full fuel and arms load" from an aircraft carrier's deck. At present, the Navy has inducted over 30 of the 45 MiG-29K fighters acquired from Russia for $2 billion.
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Both the MiG-29Ks and the naval Tejas were supposed to operate from the 44,400-tonne carrier INS Vikramaditya as well as the under-construction 40,000-tonne INS Vikrant, which will be ready by 2019-2020.




"In addition to MiG-29Ks, we now need an alternative aircraft to operate from these two carriers. If you look around the world, there are not too many options available and we need this carrier-capable aircraft sooner than later. So, I am looking at next five to six years," said Admiral Lanba.




While the IAF is going to get at least 120 Tejas, under the LCA project which was cleared way back in 1983, while the Navy was supposed to get around 50 of the indigenous fighters. In August this year, IAF finally inducted the first two Tejas fighters in the 45 "Flying Daggers" Squadron+ , which will be fully constituted with 20 jets only by 2018.




IAF had earlier ordered 40 Tejas jets, with the defence ministry in November giving the initial approval for procurement of another 83 Tejas Mark-1A fighters from HAL for Rs 50,025 crore. The Mark-1A version, which is the one IAF really wants, will be ready only by 2020 or so. It will have an AESA (active electronically scanned array) radar and advanced electronic warfare (EW) suite, as also be capable of mid-air refuelling and firing advanced BVR (beyond visual range) missiles.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...eet-its-requirements/articleshow/55756350.cms

So I guess your navy is inducting FC-1 in large numbers for its carrier right? Leave Pakistani navy, how many aircrafts have the Chinese inducted? The country which built the plane?
 

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