Teaching our students to fire weapons is madness itself

[I.R.A]

left 20 years ago, I saw the signs. I don't worry about someone jumping off the roof to kill himself, but being a decent human with God given ability to think its my job to ask that person what if you don't die and instead are crippled for the rest of your life

Good for you. What if these same signs start to appear where you are living right now? What would you do leave again .

 

[Zarvan]

I asked you define to define secularism. Do it, now.

Nothing else, give me a technical definition of secularism.

You keep faith aside and humans decide what to do and what not and that is kufr

 

[Zarvan]

Take your self made definition of Islam to a different thread and i'll expose evil in you.

Its not self made Mr its from Quran and Sunnah

 

[Zarvan]

Do you know what is the concept of Zakat in Shia Fiqh? Or when Zia ul Haq tried to implement Sunni Shariat on Pakistan, Shia's revolted in 80's and Zia ul haq has to exempt them from paying zakat ?

Khilafa concept is also different in Sunni, Shia. That's what sharia demands, to create khilafa right ?

Those common points implementation doesn't resolve core fundamental issues which would be a great hindrance if one sect Shariat is implemented

Seriously instead of living in delusions, have a in depth study of Iranian and Saudi mode of government so you may get through your thick head, these are two parallel Shariat systems which can't be merged together

I just said first start with common points 60 Ulemas from all sects should be told to come up with common points and other can be setteled later

 

[Salik]

I just said first start with common points 60 Ulemas from all sects should be told to come up with common points and other can be setteled later

Common points are already in place. Problem are causing the next level points. Thats why practice your faith where you're thats best.

 

[Jungibaaz]

You keep faith aside and humans decide what to do and what not and that is kufr

That's a BS definition. Either find a proper definition or take this sort of stupidity elsewhere.

 

[rockstar08]

Don't try speaking this sort of sense. Our countrymen are too dense for this. Let it never be said that people like this are hard to find in Pakistan, when members think I'm exaggerating the prevalence of this sort of thought in Pakistan. Despite PDF being more liberal, progressive, western and more educated, even we have this sort of ideology well represented here.



Oh but how am I not supposed to get mad? Buddy if you knew me personally you wouldn't be so confident in asking me to keep my concerns about Pakistan separate as some alien British man.

I don't want civil war, or blood, or general backwardness. But you are already in a civil war. Whether you will it or not. And if you are to overcome those who seek to destroy you, you must go after it's root, the root lies in your homes, your schools, your streets and markets, your dinner time conversations. Maybe it's not war that's needed there, but societal and ideological change is needed, badly, otherwise, forget it... continue counting the dead and keep telling yourself it's not already a civil war, just some skirmishes from aliens of another planet.

Bhai i am not saying that we are not in war , but the Civil war sort of Libya , Iraq and Syria , at least we are not in that position for now ... dont we ?? yeah the problem is within our homes , society, culture , but you and i are part of this Culture ,society are we not ? ?
i dont know you personally so i cant judge your patriotism , but the thing is in right now even people doesnt matter in what part of World they are living they have a responsibility towards Pakistan , going out and studying in UK or USA and than get settle there ,working there its easy , but very less people choose to come back and work on their country , they dont need , doctors ,engineers , economist and bankers , we need it ..

there is no other country that has been surrounded but its enemies , and within the country there are people who hate Pakistan from the day of its existence , but still we are surviving , and fighting to live .. we better not wish for things which we cant handle , its our duty to change our country , but it take centuries to build a nation based on a ideology ...
but again the Question is what Ideology ? and based on What ?? Sindhi Baloch , Muhajir , Punjabi , Pathan , or it should be just One Pakistani ?? or one Muslim ??

 

[A.Rafay]

Teaching students to fire weapons is idiotic, rather increase security of schools.