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As posted on the Chinese defense ministry website, the Chinese PLAN is floating the idea of an overseas naval base to support its anti-pirate mission in the Gulf of Aden. The lack of an overseas naval base caused hardships and supply problems during the PLAN’s first anti-pirate tour where the Chinese flotilla made no port call in over four months.

While the English report did not specify where the PLAN might setup a this base, the Chinese source mentioned Djibouti as a possible candidate as suggested by Rear Admiral Yin Zhou during a recent interview. (here) It is no coincidence that the Djibouti Minister of Foreign Affairs is visiting China today to "push forward friendly cooperation in various sectors and advance bilateral relations into a new level." (here)

Back on December 12, 2008, the PLAN first publicly acknowledged that they were "debating" a possible anti-pirate mission to the Gulf of Aden, (here) and their first flotilla was already gearing up for the tour. During that debate, Professor Jin Canrong of Renmin University told China Daily that “sending naval vessels to the waters off Somalia may raise some concerns and provide ammunition to the ‘China threat’ demagogues." One year later, the Chinese anti-pirate mission to the Gulf of Aden has generally been well-received. How the world will react to an overseas PLAN naval base in Djibouti is largely dependent on what type of base it will be. Will it be a simple supply depot or one with full faculty, armed guards and C3I?


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Experts debate China's role in Somalia mission




Chinese Vice President Xi Jinping (R) meets with Djibouti Minister of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation Mahamoud Ali Youssouf in Beijing, Dec. 29, 2009. (Xinhua/Liu Weibing)





Wednesday, December 30, 2009; 3:02 AM

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BEIJING (Reuters) - A Chinese rear admiral has urged the nation to set up navy supply bases overseas in an interview posted on the Ministry of Defense website after China paid ransom to free a ship held for nine weeks by Somali pirates.

China has operated patrols for a year now in the narrow Gulf of Aden, escorting Chinese and foreign ships through waters menaced by pirates operating off the Somali coast.

But coal and ore shipping lanes off the east coast of Africa have proved harder to defend. The De Xin Hai, captured 700 nautical miles east of Somalia in October, was ransomed for $4 million on Sunday.

Reflecting on the hardships endured by the Chinese patrol ships in the anti-piracy effort, Rear Admiral Yin Zhou floated the idea of bases abroad to support the vessels. (http://news.mod.gov.cn)

"This is entirely a matter for the country's foreign policy circles, but I feel that would be appropriate if we could have a relatively stable, fixed base for supplies and maintenance," said Yin, who is director of an advisory committee for the Chinese navy's drive to upgrade information technology.

"I think countries near any relatively long-term supply bases established by China, and other countries participating in the escort mission, could understand," he said, adding that would be more affordable than re-supplying via ship on the high seas.

Asian neighbors have been monitoring China's international deployments for signs of the country's rising global status translating into a more assertive foreign policy and presence.

China has never renounced the use of force to bring self-ruled and democratic Taiwan, which it considers sovereign territory, under its rule, and increased Chinese military activity around a series of disputed atolls and rocks in the South China Sea has worried Vietnam, Malaysia and the Philippines, which have their own territorial claims.

The Chinese navy did not call at any port during the four months of its first mission to the waters off Somalia, creating problems with straining supplies, medical care and homesickness for sailors unable to communicate with their families, the interview and other media reports have noted.

The anti-piracy mission off Somalia has been the first such long-distance projection of Chinese naval power since the Ming dynasty, 600 years ago.

Chinese ships communicated with ships operating under a multi-national anti-piracy task force in the Gulf of Aden, but did not formally cooperate with them. The deputy commander of the Combined Maritime Forces, Commodore Tim Lowe, suggested China could co-lead the grouping next year.

Yin did not suggest where the base would be. But the China Daily on Tuesday ran an interview with the Somali ambassador to China, asking for international assistance in building a coast guard.

(Reporting by Lucy Hornby; Editing by Nick Macfie)
 
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It would be a good thing for China to establish a naval base in the Middle East where so much of its energy supplies are purchased. The rest of the world, including the USA, should welcome a stronger effort on China's part to help with peace and security for commerce in that region. If China is to be a responsible "Great" power, it will need to contribute to the "police work" that is necessary because human beings are not angels.
 
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The Chinese military planners are moving slowly in this regard. The Port of Sudan is a more logistic choice for them, however, any increase in military relations with Sudan will draw an intense political backlash.
 
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The Chinese military planners are moving slowly in this regard. The Port of Sudan is a more logistic choice for them, however, any increase in military relations with Sudan will draw an intense political backlash.

It would be far better if China chose a location for its first power projection that was not a conflict zone or a failed state. China should not want its first military steps far from home to be, or to be confused as, neo-colonialist.
 
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"power projection" that is the key, isn't it?

Folks will be monitoring and see what the end goal of this "base" will be -- to serve as the stage area for the Gulf of Aden missions or something more.
 
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I think Karachi would also be a great port for PLAN to settle its indian ocean task force. It would also be great for the security of pakistan, because then the IN would think twice before launching an attack on southern Pakistan.:china::pakistan:
 
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China mulling naval base in Gulf of Aden

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A top Chinese naval official has proposed setting up a permanent base to support ships on an anti-piracy mission in the Gulf of Aden, raising the idea that China could build foreign bases elsewhere.

In an interview posted on the defense ministry's website, Yin Zhuo – an admiral and senior researcher at the navy's Equipment Research Center – said such a base would bolster China's long-term participation in the operation.

"We are saying to fulfill our international commitments, we need to strengthen our supply capacity."

Yin's proposal, posted on Tuesday, came after a Chinese cargo ship and its crew of 25 were rescued from Somali pirates on Monday, following the payment of a 3.5-million-dollar ransom to their kidnappers.

China has sent four flotillas to the region since the end of last year, with the first escort fleet spending 124 days at sea without docking, Yin said – a length of time that added to the challenges of the operation.

Since then, Chinese vessels have been allowed to dock and resupply at a French naval base. The United States, the European Union and Japan all have supply bases in the region.

"If China establishes a similar long-term supply base, I believe that the nations in the region and the other countries involved with the escorts would understand," he said.

"I think a permanent, stable base would be good for our operations."

Any decision to establish such a base would have to be decided by the Communist Party of China and its Central Military Commission, Yin said.

As the world's largest importer of crude oil, China is reportedly interested in establishing naval bases in Bangladesh, Cambodia, Myanmar, Pakistan, Thailand and the South China Sea to protect its sea transportation lines.
 
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China rules out overseas naval base now

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China will stick to its current supply regime to support anti-piracy operations in the Gulf of Aden, the Defense Ministry said on Thursday, responding to an admiral's suggestion that Beijing set up a permanent base in the region.

Experts said an overseas supply base might be an option in the future, but is not an urgent issue now.

"Some countries have set up overseas supply bases (but) the Chinese fleet is currently supplied at sea and through regular docking (in the Gulf of Aden region)," said a ministry statement faxed.

The statement was in response to an outspoken retired admiral, Yin Zhuo, who said setting up a base would bolster China's long-term participation in the operations.

"We are not saying we need our navy everywhere in order to fulfill our international commitments," Yin, now a senior researcher at the navy's Equipment Research Centre, said in an interview published on Tuesday. "We are saying to fulfill our international commitments, we need to strengthen our supply capacity."

Yin's proposal came after a Chinese cargo ship and its crew of 25 were rescued from Somali pirates on Monday.

China has sent four flotillas to the region since the end of last year, with the first escort fleet spending 124 days at sea without docking, Yin said - a length of time that added to the challenges of the operation.

Since then, Chinese vessels have docked at a French naval base for supplies. The United States, the European Union and Japan have supply bases in the region, Yin pointed out.

"If China establishes a similar long-term supply base, I believe that the nations in the region and the other countries involved with the (anti-pirate) escorts would understand," he said.

Still, his suggestion has evoked wide international concern.

The BBC said "other countries have been closely monitoring China's international deployments for signs of increasing assertiveness in its foreign defense policy."

The report said the Chinese navy "has not been in this part of the world (the Gulf of Aden)" since the Ming Dynasty (1368-1644).

During the 15th Century, Chinese vessels reached the East African coast, visiting Mogadishu and Malindi in Somalia and Kenya, even taking back a giraffe and a zebra as souvenirs.

Yin's proposal raises "the idea that China could build foreign bases elsewhere", AFP said in a report.

But Jin Canrong, an international relations expert at Renmin University of China, said Beijing has yet to seriously consider setting up a permanent overseas supply base. He said it's unnecessary to "play up the personal view of Yin, a retired admiral".

Jin, however, said the possibility of setting up such a base should not be ruled out.

"China's national interests have extended beyond its border, so it's necessary to have strong ability to protect them," he added.

Li Jie, a senior colonel and researcher with the Chinese Navy's Military Academy, also said Beijing should consider setting up an overseas supply base "in the long run".

"For many other countries, it's a common way of ensuring naval supplies," Li said. Such a base, "not a military one", would not only ease supply but also provide a venue for naval personnel to take a break.

But an overseas base could only be set up "within the UN framework and concurrence of surrounding countries", he added.
 
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in all seriousness, if Djibouti allows China to build a Navy base, there is nothing the world can do about it.
 
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oh - smack that doc,

these girls are only poster girl, truth is ugly and bitter. most chances say - you will have ugly duckling or you will be amoung 100 guys without a trace of girl in middle of sea. so chances are you will turn gay or get sexually inactive for rest of life. loss of appetite.
 
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guys be serious

Pakistani nationalist want to say some thing about

yes sir now pls
 
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