Talks for Su-35, Mi-35 sales to Pakistan are underway: Russian Deputy FM

[Bossman]

Pakistan have traditionally bought planes and announcement were made..

However here it is very much unlike Pakistan and more like India debating about Su 35 ..

It is sign it's just politics and if the deal is actually place, it's going take a long time.

There are has been no comments on SU 35 from official Pakistani sources. Only comments from Russians and discussions on forums.

 

[dadeechi]

The Russians have already clarified that no such sale is happening, time to lock this thread ?

I have not seen any such clarification

Bcz more than the Modern Aircraft we actually want a split between India & Russia

Very good strategy indeed

 

[dadeechi]

New Delhi: Russia on Thursday said that it will never take any step detrimental to the security and safety of its special strategic partner India.

Russian Embassy here issued a statement in the backdrop of a report that said Russia and Pakistan were in talks on the delivery of Russian multirole Mi-35M attack helicopters and the latest Su-35 fighter jets.

"Time and again, the Russian leaders have stated at the highest level that Russia will never take any steps detrimental to the security and safety of our special and privileged strategic partner ? India, or the security structure in the South Asian region, or any other region for that matter," the statement said.

"This assurance is fully valid today as it was valid yesterday. This is the guideline of our President's foreign policy concept," it said.

"As regards the newspaper report from Nizhni Tagil, it is a sheer case of overstatement by the agency, on the one hand, and of overreaction by a section of the Indian media, - on the other," it added.

PTI

The question is who will determine which step is detrimental to the security and safety of India. Also, the statement did not mention that there would not be any sale of SU-35 to Pakistan.

 

[Knight Rider]

NIZHYNY TAGIL: Pakistan and Russia are in talks about the delivery of Sukhoi Su-35 fighter jets and previously agreed upon delivery of Mi-35M helicopters, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister (FM) Sergei Ryabkov said, Sputnik reported.

Earlier this year, a draft contract for the delivery of four Mi-35M 'Hind E' combat helicopters was sent to Pakistan from Russia, a source in the Russian military and technical cooperation was quoted by the Russian news agency TASS.

Increasing military cooperation between Islamabad and Moscow would not negatively impact Russia's ties with India, Ryabkov said, adding that Pak-Russia ties were improving in other sectors as well ─ including energy.

The Russian Deputy FM Ryabkov referred to Pakistan as Russia's closest partner and said, "I do not think that the contacts under discussion will cause jealousy on the part of any of the two sides."

Pakistan and Russia had signed a bilateral defence cooperation agreement aimed at strengthening military-to-military relations in November last year. The deal had to be followed by another ‘technical cooperation agreement’ to pave the way for sale of defence equipment to Pakistan.

Pak-Russia talks on delivery of Su-35, Mi-35s underway: Russian Deputy FM - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

EDIT AFTER INDIANS TROLLING THIS THREAD:

SU-35s + Pakistani Pilots = Nightmare For India

 

[Khanivore]

Anyway, enough of the chitter-chatter whether Pakistan will get it or not, let's enjoy an Su-35 show (forgive me mods if videos not allowed):

 

[elitepilot09]

I just realized that if PAF opts for the SU-35, Pakistan will be the only country in the world to use the SU-35 in tandem with the F-16 blk52/MLU.

What a glorious sight that would be.

 

[somebozo]

I seriously doubt that Russia would give us Su-35. They don't want to jeopardize relations with India.
Our relationship hasn't reached that level of trust yet

They have a bigger project with india called PAK-FA which is a pure fifth generation fighter..SU35 is obsolete for both..Russia and India...

I just realized that if PAF opts for the SU-35, Pakistan will be the only country in the world to use the SU-35 in tandem with the F-16 blk52/MLU.

What a glorious sight that would be.

SU35 is an international export failure..because nobody wants a 4++ generation fighter at a time when many are planing to arm with 5th generation fighter...Russia is simply trying to dump its junk when they have a bigger 5th generation program with India called PAK-FA

 

[batmannow]

They have a bigger project with india called PAK-FA which is a pure fifth generation fighter..SU35 is obsolete for both..Russia and India...



SU35 is an international export failure..because nobody wants a 4++ generation fighter at a time when many are planing to arm with 5th generation fighter...Russia is simply trying to dump its junk when they have a bigger 5th generation program with India called PAK-FA

PAK FA is become a joke in Russia these days ,cause Indians can't satisfy themselves over the period of 14 years ,with every visit they do to the project ,they demand new things to be included , & they are not paying any more money ?
That pi$$$es off Russia long time ?
PAK FA is still in thinking process while ,SU 35 is on the skies , that's huge difference & will be a huge difference ?
What does it means 4++ fighter jet ?
Oh it means it has the capability to be upgraded as 5 th generation jet ?right
If its has that capability then it won't be much hard to up grade it to 5th generation level even after 10 years or so ?
Russia didn't allowed the export of SU -35 up until they were convinced that SU-37 will be there work horse & they won't let any one get that ?
Also by opening the deal to Pakistan , Russia has technically has slapped India of its double play with Russia ?
Not long you will see , India,s reaction ordering more SU 35 from Russia ?lol
& then you will rethink how obselte its is for them ?

hello, they're not.


yup, I think the US will okay and sanction more f-16s (a platform PAF are already very comfortable with).. could be a mix of second hand jets and some new ones, probably not to block 60 standard though.

the US are not going to let Pakistan go to the Russian camp just as much as the Russians are poking India with this SU 35 news.

Hill-loo they are ? Stop crying ?lolzz

 

[gau8av]

I have not seen any such clarification

Russia says, will not take any step detrimental to India's security | Business Standard News

 

[PakShaheen79]

Can you please explain how?

 

[batmannow]

Russia says, will not take any step detrimental to India's security | Business Standard News

Sure but Russia will sell SU 35 TO PAKISTAN CAUSE IT WONT DETRIMENTAL TO INDIA ,s security ?
If its , then place a order with hard cash of SU 35 at least 500 planes ?
Another Indian new paper trying to come down Indian public ?lolzz

 

[gau8av]

Sure but Russia will sell SU 35 TO PAKISTAN CAUSE IT WONT DETRIMENTAL TO INDIA ,s security ?
If its , then place a order with hard cash of SU 35 at least 500 planes ?
Another Indian new paper trying to come down Indian public ?lolzz

pakistan is not getting any sukhois, keep posting smileys, even I can

 

[I M Sikander]

pakistan is not getting any sukhois, keep posting smileys, even I can

This is same what the indians said about thunder engines and even about mi 35 helos.
So indians keep your wet dreams alive.

 

[gau8av]

This is same what the indians said about thunder engines and even about mi 35 helos.
So indians keep your wet dreams alive.

and we get arty guns, chinooks, apache, were offered f-16IN, strategic transport, emals for new carrier and etc from the US, a traditional weapons supplier to Pak

but you're not getting any sukhois from Russia, no chance

 

[Kakaspai]

and we get arty guns, chinooks, apache, were offered f-16IN, strategic transport, emals for new carrier and etc from the US, a traditional weapons supplier to Pak

but you're not getting any sukhois from Russia, no chance

Ok.ok.you dont have to tell us again and again and again and again.only time can tell if we will get them or not