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the recent display of advance maneuvering at the airshow by su 35 makes it a prime candidate. the mig 35 is still underdevelopment and could be a potential candidate in future.Why NOT Mig-35 for PAF?
Mig-35 is roughly equivalent to F-16 B-50+, also it shares same engine of JFT.
Any thoughts?
the recent display of advance maneuvering at the airshow by su 35 makes it a prime candidate. the mig 35 is still underdevelopment and could be a potential candidate in future.
Is there any Indian out their left to object on this deal?
Click on the below link it says 30m us dollar a piece.what is the price tag for mig-35, BTW?
To assess the seriousness of russian offer, keep following things in mind.
1) annual trade between india and russia
2) what is balance of trade position between india and russia
3) number of defence or other projects going on between india and russia and their net worth.
if the aforementioned issues are not in favour of russia i.e. if trade is tilted in favour of india or russian exports to india constitute a minor part of overall russian exports or to put it simply if india needs russia more than russia needs india THEN we will get Su 35s otherwise there is less chance even if russia wants to sell these birds, it may not be in a position to do so.
besides russians know chinese always make dulplicates so pakistan will eventually get the birds no matter what. inshallah so Russia thinks if thats whats going to happen better sell it first hand and make some profit
Its been stated a million times that , China won't sell any thing , walks or talks like J-11s to anyone ,so pls stop speculation about it ?In my humble opinion, the best possible deal that can come out of all this is that PAF gets J-11D with the Russian Saturn AL-117 (Su-35s) engines. Just imagine ... an AESA (1760+ TRMs) powered J-11D that will have super-cruise, TVC (not too essential) and will be armed with PL-15 LRAAM and PL-10 HOBS WVRAAM and no issues with integrating with the Pakistani AWACS ... plus all the goodies that the JF-17 can carry and more. But such a fighter would be a few years away to become a reality and be part of the PAF. But as wishful thinkings go, not a bad wish to have.
Its been stated a million times that , China won't sell any thing , walks or talks like J-11s to anyone ,so pls stop speculation about it ?
Its either , SU-35s or nothing !
So you think , Russian DFM just speculated ?Sir, as per my limited understanding everything that we are posting on this thread is nothing but speculation.
All we know is that talks may have been held on the Su-35 with the Russians. What was the scope and nature of the talks we don't know. How it will eventually end up, we don't know. We have to wait and see.
What I posted above is simply an if this could only happen. And it is not that far fetched either.
Because, way I see it, the only way this sort of deal (i.e. for Su-35) is going to succeed is through the joint game plan, approval and cooperation for the deal between Russia, Pakistan and China. And if for any reason direct sale to Pakistan is not possible, then Russia will have no qualms in clearing the way for China to step in and sell its platform (i.e. AL-117 powered J-11D) to Pakistan. That too if Russia agrees to provide its most advanced fighter engine to date. So the tacit agreement on which China holds itself true i.e. not encroaching on Russia's Flanker export market will no longer be applicable and nor be a hindrance.
But of course you are entitled to see it a different way.