Taiping Island security not to be boosted: military - Taipei Times

[Viet]

As of today, our 228 anti-ship missiles launched from air, surface, sub surface are more than enough to sink their entire South Sea Fleet. By 2016, our 396 anti-ship missiles launched from air, surface, and sub surface are more than enough to sink their East Sea Fleet and South Sea Fleet together. Their operation in the Spratly relies heavily and mostly on surface ships; we can easily counter that with salvos of anti-ship missiles.

Do you guys realize that had we bought 50 Su-30 instead of 6 submarines, we have extra platform that can launch an extra 200 anti-ship missiles? I'm not too sure about the decision to buy the 6 submarines.

Antiship missiles can be captured by moderrn air defence systems. China destroyers have sophisticated defence systems against aerial attacks. Not all missiles will find the targets. Moreover, as China has numerical superiority, their number of missiles will overwhelm ours.

I am a fan of submarines. Subs armed with cruise missiles and torpedos are a better choice. Once locked, the torpedos have a higher chance to hit the targets. In the WW II, the Germans subs were a nightmare for the British fleets. The Navy should buy more Subs.

by the way, why don´t you select country flags?

 

[TaiShang]

What do you do with the remote island far away 4-hour flight from Taiwan, while just within haft of an hour our fighter jets will come there from Vietnam's military base Cam Ranh Bay?

What to do with that island is Taiwan's problem. It has the capability to deploy to the area if needed. But TW knows you will not dare it. Besides, not only that island, TW lays claim on all islands in SCS as per the nine-dashed line. So, having one island is better than no island. Having more island is better than one island.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Antiship missiles can be captured by moderrn air defence systems. China destroyers have sophisticated defence systems against aerial attacks. Not all of missiles will find the targets. Moreover, as China has numerical superiority, their number of missiles will overwhelm ours.

I am a fan of submarines. Subs armed with torpedos are a better choice. Once locked, the torpedos have a higher chance to hit the targets. The Navy should buy more Subs.

by the way, why don´t you select country flags?

At least you make more sense in your comment.

Let's assume that Vietnam will have 6 kilo subs by 2020, meanwhile China will have more than 20 Aegis DDGs (ranging from ABIIA to ABIII in term of capability) and more than 20 nuclear subs (ranging from the late LA class to the Seawolf/Virginia class).

Also, another extra aircraft carrier will be ready by then.

 

[ViXuyen]

Antiship missiles can be captured by moderrn air defence systems. China destroyers have sophisticated defence systems against aerial attacks. Not all of missiles will find the targets. Moreover, as China has numerical superiority, their number of missiles will overwhelm ours.

I am a fan of submarines. Subs armed with torpedos are a better choice. Once locked, the torpedos have a higher chance to hit the targets. The Navy should buy more Subs.

by the way, why don´t you select country flags?

Even Aegis system cannot repel salvos of anti-ship missiles attack. Ship-borne radar can only engage a few missiles at a time in one particular direction and due to the curvature of the earth; when a radar picks up the missiles as they break the horizon, it has very little time to engage it; that's why a salvo of missile attack from many direction will easily breach the air defence shield. Forget about Chinese air defence system.

 

[BoQ77]

At least you make more sense in your comments.

Let's assume that Vietnam will have 6 kilo subs by 2020, meanwhile China will have more than 20 Aegis DDGs (ranging from ABIIA to ABIII in term of capability) and more than 20 nuclear subs (ranging from the late LA class to the Seawolf/Virginia class).

Also, another extra aircraft carrier will be ready by then.

Why you try to use USA class for Chinese ships?
What does China do with term ABIIA, ABIII, LA class, Virginia Class ?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Why you try to use USA class for Chinese ships ?

I used for the comparison in term of capability.

PLAN has no any foreign warships except four Sovremenny class DDGs.

 

[Viet]

At least you make more sense in your comments.

Let's assume that Vietnam will have 6 kilo subs by 2020, meanwhile China will have more than 20 Aegis DDGs (ranging from ABIIA to ABIII in term of capability) and more than 20 nuclear subs (ranging from the late LA class to the Seawolf/Virginia class).

Also, another extra aircraft carrier will be ready by then.

Vietnam will have 6 Kilos ready in 2017. if the navy orders 6 more today, we will have 12 in 2020.
As I said, it is hopeless to catch up with China.

Diesel subs are good enough for the SC Sea. As Vietnam wants to have a blue water navy, we will likely seek nuclear subs.

If you deploy Aircraft carriers near our coast, they are very vulnerable for the Yahkonts.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Vietnam will have 6 Kilos ready in 2017. if the navy orders 6 more today, we will have 12 in 2020.
Diesel subs are good enough for the SC Sea. As Vietnam wants to have a blue water navy, we will likely seek nuclear subs.

If you deploy Aircraft carriers near our coast, they are very vulnerable for the Yahkonts.

Both Type 001 and Type 001A can have a combat radius of 1000km, do you have any missile reaches that far?

Meanwhile, PLAN's SSNs will usually be accompanied by a large number of advanced AIP subs.

 

[BoQ77]

I used for the comparison in term of capability.

PLAN has no any foreign warships except four Sovremenny class DDGs.

Bison class ?
Kilo class ?
Liaoning ? actually outside still call it as Varyag

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Bison class ?
Kilo class ?

Sovremenny/Bison/Kilo, that's all the foreign warships in PLAN's inventory.

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

What to do with that island is Taiwan's problem. It has the capability to deploy to the area if needed. But TW knows you will not dare it. Besides, not only that island, TW lays claim on all islands in SCS as per the nine-dashed line. So, having one island is better than no island. Having more island is better than one island.

I think your country Taiwan should give back Thai Binh (Itu Aba) island to Vietnam, then focus to keep Taiwan Island before the invasion of China.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Liaoning ?

Liaoning only has a hull, it is not totally foreign.

 

[Viet]

Both Type 001 and Type 001A can have a combat radius of 1000km, do you have any missile reaches that far?

Meanwhile, PLAN's SSNs will usually be accompanied by a large number of advanced AIP subs.

No, our coastal based antiship missiles have a max range of 300km. but we deploy cruise missiles on Spratlys, our defence radius will increase.

for more, that will be a job for the airforce.

 

[BoQ77]

Varyag AC is the basement for all others. Stoppers, Su33, ..same as your buying an old ships and renew or scrapping it. You still must do everything based on its basic design when using it.
We could call it is Assembled in China, but at the same time we could consider it as imported.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

No, our coastal based antiship missiles have a max range of 300km. but we deploy cruise missiles on Spratlys, our defence radius will increase.

for more, that will be a job for the airforce.

That's why China will remove your airports and other military bases from the first wave of attack.

The US of the 1970s can't do that doesn't mean that China can't.

The global navigation system didn't even exist back then, so keep living in the glory of the past will cost you dearly in the modern battlefield.