Taiping Island security not to be boosted: military - Taipei Times

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

No, our coastal based antiship missiles have a max range of 300km. but we deploy cruise missiles on Spratlys, our defence radius will increase.

for more, that will be a job for the airforce.

~550km, bro

 

[BoQ77]

Both Type 001 and Type 001A can have a combat radius of 1000km, do you have any missile reaches that far?

Meanwhile, PLAN's SSNs will usually be accompanied by a large number of advanced AIP subs.

Chinese ACs are for other regions. Not SCS. Middle of SCS still under effective ranges of coastal defense system, or missiles of submarines or aircraft's both had nearly 300 km of range.

 

[Viet]

Even Aegis system cannot repel salvos of anti-ship missiles attack. Ship-borne radar can only engage a few missiles at a time in one particular direction and due to the curvature of the earth; when a radar picks up the missiles as they break the horizon, it has very little time to engage it; that's why a salvo of missile attack from many direction will easily breach the air defence shield. Forget about Chinese air defence system.

Yes, actually just few minutes for detecting incoming enemy missiles and activating aerial defence systems.
But modern air defence can respond. Sure, You can overwhelm by firing more missiles than the system can capture.

 

[ViXuyen]

As I said, it is hopeless to catch up with China.

I think you do not understand Vietnamese's military doctrine "chiến tranh phi đối xứng" my friend. You never match ship to ship, tank to tank, jet to jet with China. You match them with missiles whether it is antiship missiles, anti-tank missiles or surface to air missiles. You match them with superior tactics and geographic advantage.

Yes, actually just few minutes for detecting incoming enemy missiles and activating aerial defence systems.
But modern air defence can respond. Sure, You can overwhelm by firing more missiles than the system can capture.

Not few minutes. More like 30 seconds when the sea skimming missiles break the horizon and the ship borne radar can pick them up. Even if you pack 1000 SAMs on your ship, your radar can only guide a few missiles to engage the incoming anti-ship missiles. Not only that, the radar also needs a few seconds of mini break before it can start guiding the next round of SAMs at the rest of the incoming AShM.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Chinese ACs are for other regions. Not SCS. Middle of SCS still under effective ranges of coastal defense system, or missiles of submarines or aircraft's both had nearly 300 km of range.

China is next door to Vietnam. Chinese airforce will be the first deployed taking down every Vietnamese long ranged missiles emplacements and planes. Then the Navy will send their ACs to finish the job.

Look, here's the truth; Vietnam have zero chance in hell of "defeating" China. Just go with your colonial master example when war between 2 countries break out:

 

[BoQ77]

Xigwin ... lucky that you are not President of China who is busy in hosting the CICA Summit which is for peace, not war

 

[ViXuyen]

China is next door to Vietnam. Chinese airforce will be the first deployed taking down every Vietnamese long ranged missiles emplacements and planes. Then the Navy will send their ACs to finish the job.

Look, here's the truth; Vietnam have zero chance in hell of "defeating" China. Just go with your colonial master example when war between 2 countries break out:

Don't equate Vietnam with Indonesia. Here is a brutal truth: Vietnam has had a history of defeating China 9 times in the past 1100 years despite being outnumberred in every category. Don't give me more of your excuses that this time will be different than the last one.

Chinese airforce will be shot down by our SAM before they even try anything funny. Believe me, shooting down over 4000 Amerian jets was a much tougher task than dealing with Chinese airforce

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

China is next door to Vietnam. Chinese airforce will be the first deployed taking down every Vietnamese long ranged missiles emplacements and planes. Then the Navy will send their ACs to finish the job.

Look, here's the truth; Vietnam have zero chance in hell of "defeating" China. Just go with your colonial master example when war between 2 countries break out:

Why we must "defeating china"? For what?
That is not our goal.
I think you are not able to understand what is our goal.

 

[Viet]

~550km, bro

do you mean the Shaddock?
the missiles are not as accurate and deadly as Yahkonts.

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

do you mean the Shaddock?
the missiles are not as accurate and deadly as Yahkonts.

Yes Saddock improved by Vietnam. But we are talking about our missile's max range.

 

[Viet]

I think you do not understand Vietnamese's military doctrine "chiến tranh phi đối xứng" my friend. You never match ship to ship, tank to tank, jet to jet with China. You match them with missiles whether it is antiship missiles, anti-tank missiles or surface to air missiles. You match them with superior tactics and geographic advantage.

agreed. no dispute. hence I want to see more subs. they are suitable for hit and run tactic.

Not few minutes. More like 30 seconds when the sea skimming missiles break the horizon and the ship borne radar can pick them up. Even if you pack 1000 SAMs on your ship, your radar can only guide a few missiles to engage the incoming anti-ship missiles. Not only that, the radar also needs a few seconds of mini break before it can start guiding the next round of SAMs at the rest of the incoming AShM.

we can assume the Chinese monitor every single move of our warships.
their major warships and carriers will be accompanied and escorted by early warning aircrafts, fighter jets and subs.

their radars will detect our surface warships and pick up any incoming missiles at early stage.

 

[ViXuyen]

agreed. no dispute. hence I want to see more subs. they are suitable for hit and run tactic.

we can assume the Chinese monitor every single move of our warships.
their major warships and carriers will be accompanied and escorted by early warning aircrafts, fighter jets and subs.

their radars will detect our surface warships and pick up any incoming missiles at early stage.

Which radar? Ship borne or Air borne? Ship borne radar's coverage is restricted by the curvature of the Earth so even if air borned radar can pick up the missiles, it can't be used to guide the SAM on the ship while ship borne radar only has tens of seconds to engage a salvo of incoming AshM. That's why having an airforce that can launch and forget a salvo of AShM at the enemy's surface ship is the best choice.

 

[BoQ77]

Yes Saddock improved by Vietnam. But we are talking about our missile's max range.

You would never know real Max range. No one said that we just bought cruise missiles with 700km of range. Several years ago I heard about missile testing for over 700km Scud like. I am belong to a family of military officials.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Don't equate Vietnam with Indonesia. Here is a brutal truth: Vietnam has had a history of defeating China 9 times in the past 1100 years despite being outnumberred in every category. Don't give me more of your excuses that this time will be different than the last one.

Chinese airforce will be shot down by our SAM before they even try anything funny. Believe me, shooting down over 4000 Amerian jets was a much tougher task than dealing with Chinese airforce

Do not equate past victory with certainty. Poland beaten Russia many times over in the past, but I do not need to tell you the hubris of such thinking. This is the 21th century the side with the most technological advancement wins. Vietnam's armed forces is even relic compared to us.

PLS all Chinese need to do is just blow up your military satellite or jam your SAM. That's the truth if you don't like it curse your "weak army" not others.

Why we must "defeating china"? For what?
That is not our goal.
I think you are not able to understand what is our goal.

That's what the quotation are for.

 

[Viet]

Which radar? Ship borne or Air borne? Ship borne radar's coverage is restricted by the curvature of the Earth so even if air borned radar can pick up the missiles, it can't be used to guide the SAM on the ship while ship borne radar only has tens of seconds to engage a salvo of incoming AshM. That's why having an airforce that can launch and forget a salvo of AShM at the enemy's surface ship is the best choice.

yes, I mean radars from early warning aircraft. they can detect missiles at early stage and give surface warships more time for reaction.