T-80 and T-84 Main Battle Tanks Information pool

[Glavcom]

 

[niaz]

Understand one of the reasons of Western /NATO modern MBTs being larger and heavier than Russian or Chinese MBTs is due to the ammunition stored in a separate compartment whereas this is not so for the Russian /Chinese MBTs. Therefore lives of the crew in case of a hit/ fire inside the tank are at greater risk in these tanks.

Would appreciate knowing what is the case with Al-Khalid? Can anyone from the Armoured Corps clear this issue?

 

[Dazzler]

Understand one of the reasons of Western /NATO modern MBTs being larger and heavier than Russian or Chinese MBTs is due to the ammunition stored in a separate compartment whereas this is not so for the Russian /Chinese MBTs. Therefore lives of the crew in case of a hit/ fire inside the tank are at greater risk in these tanks.

Would appreciate knowing what is the case with Al-Khalid? Can anyone from the Armoured Corps clear this issue?

In Alkhalid, ammo is stored in the autoloader (22 rounds), while the rest are stored in armored ammo bins. Even most western mbts store ammo within the fighting compartment. The M1A1, A2 is only mbt that stores them in separate blowout panels. However, chances of an incoming ammo hitting the autoloader resulting in ammo cook off is quite minimal as they are quite well protected from the outside.

 

[TaimiKhan]

In Alkhalid, ammo is stored in the autoloader (22 rounds), while the rest are stored in armored ammo bins. Even most western mbts store ammo within the fighting compartment. The M1A1, A2 is only mbt that stores them in separate blowout panels. However, chances of an incoming ammo hitting and ammo cook off is quite minimal as they are quite well protected from the outside.

Well the devastation that has caused on the tanks including leopards & Israeli upgraded Sabra M-60 tanks in the Syrian conflict should make us think in having better armor capabilities or atleast start researching in options to better counter ATGMs.

 

[帅的一匹]

For 49 tanks at 200 million, you got yourself a good deal at just over $4 million per mbt. Thailand is also not happy with the battery and had some other minor complains about the weapon system. The major issue is that you lost a customer that had planned to buy the mbt in big numbers.

Thais were eventually looking for 200-300 pieces. It's a shame you lost a lucrative contract.

Thailand royal army had stopped inducting the Oplot M, cause they find out severe quality problem with it. They had signed a deal with China for supplying 50 units of VT4. Anyway, Ukraine is a good friend of China, good luck!

VT4 in Pakistan or Thailand?

 

[Dazzler]

REDESIGN AND CONTROL OF AUTOLOADER OF T-80UD TANK (Pakistan)

https://prezi.com/l81xzhoneulk/redesign-and-control-of-autoloader-of-t-80ud-tank/

 

[T-55]

T-80U underwater driving

 

[tbg Chengdu China]

T64 and T80，always NATO‘s nightmare during the coldwar.

 

[Arsalan]

Well the devastation that has caused on the tanks including leopards & Israeli upgraded Sabra M-60 tanks in the Syrian conflict should make us think in having better armor capabilities or atleast start researching in options to better counter ATGMs.

Active protection hard kill systems is what we may need. I am not sure how effective these can be in a full blown war with myltiple enemies engaging you and the tank coloumn being accompanied by friendlies but there seem to be other option really. Hit to kill systems will minimize that risk to accompanying friendlies but not eliminate it completely.

 

[Glavcom]

Main battle tank T-84 Oplot-P

http://glavcom.blogspot.com/2017/06/t-84-oplot-p-main-battle-tank-2.html?m=0

 

[MastanKhan]

Well the devastation that has caused on the tanks including leopards & Israeli upgraded Sabra M-60 tanks in the Syrian conflict should make us think in having better armor capabilities or atleast start researching in options to better counter ATGMs.

Hi,

can we have some information on the tank devastation in that conflict.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Hi,

can we have some information on the tank devastation in that conflict.

Plenty of videos showing T-72s,T-70s,Leopards,Abrams and Sabras and other T series tanks getting blown up by missiles like RPGs,TOWs and Baktar Shikans...

Turrets blown off,cook ups ...

 

[TaimiKhan]

Hi,

can we have some information on the tank devastation in that conflict.

Sir ji, info meaning qualitative wise or quantitative wise ?

Quantity wise, by 2013 meaning 24 months into the conflict 20-25% syrian tank force was gone and now may be more then half of them.


And for quality wise the net is full of videos showing syrian, iraqi, saudi and tutkish tanks being blown up. Only recently t-90s have shown to be taking hits but surviving them. Just in turkish ops for town of al bab i believe they lost somewhat 10 leopards.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Hi,

can we have some information on the tank devastation in that conflict.

T-90, Syria

Turkish Leopard 2

Turkish Sabra upgrade

Iraqi Abrams

 

[Beast]

Western claim their ammo blow off panel will save crew. See from the video how these M1A2 is cooked. You think the crew will be saved?

Some western bootlicker will then claim its export version with inferior armour and inferior system. Then I can say this about Iraq T-72 MBT during desert storm. The fact is how downgrade will these export version be? Thin sheet of paper? Or maybe Saudi is some idiots who accepted very sub par western equipment without asking?

Fact is ammo blow off panel will work only in small percentage of situation and hardly save lives while adding up enormous weight that eat up fuel and complicated engine issue.

Western product are most of the time overhyped and over rated. The fact western weapon looks good is just fanciful marketing and the inferiority complex of some Asian looking upon on western countries as invincible.