T-80 and T-84 Main Battle Tanks Information pool

[Zarvan]

November 19, 2016 it was announced that the name of the State Enterprise Plant VA Malyshev gave the Armed Forces of Ukraine 6 T-84 Oplot (product 478DU9) passed the factory for repair of their technical condition.
In June 2016 the Ministry of Defence signed a contract with the Kharkov enterprise "Malyshev Plant" in the restoration and partial modernization of the first generation of tanks "Oplot" Series T-84 received the Armed Forces of Ukraine back in 2001 year.

Pakistan tested OPLOT M a year ago. Overall Tank was great but new 1500 HP engine had issue. Ukraine promised that engine issue would be resolved by them soon and they would send OPLOT M back to be tested again so any idea when will OPLOT M return to Pakistan for testing ?

 

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[salman darkknight]

very good

 

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Pakistan tested OPLOT M a year ago. Overall Tank was great but new 1500 HP engine had issue. Ukraine promised that engine issue would be resolved by them soon and they would send OPLOT M back to be tested again so any idea when will OPLOT M return to Pakistan for testing ?

Tests of Pakistan appointed in 2017. By this time KMDB should make all voiced wishes for tank construction T-84 BM Oplot-P.

 

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Tank T-84 BM Oplot during the comparative military trials in Pakistan in 2016.

 

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Around 70% of the tank is made inhouse while rest is imported.

Who can say what Pakistan need a T-84 MBT-3000 or if he produces Pakistan Al-Khalid tank?

 

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Ukrainian T-84 BM Oplot

 

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Thai view VT-4 more superior than Ukraine OPLOT M and go for it, same as Iraq army.

Military-technical potential of tanks
the military-technical potential of Ukrainian T-84 BM Oplot-Т exceeds obsolete Russian demonstrator prototype tank T-90MS Tagil and Chinese export tank VT-4 (MBT-3000).

 

[Dazzler]

Military-technical potential of tanks
the military-technical potential of Ukrainian T-84 BM Oplot-Т exceeds obsolete Russian demonstrator prototype tank T-90MS Tagil and Chinese export tank VT-4 (MBT-3000).

I see no point in developing a weapon system and promoting it to the market when you cannot supply it in required numbers.

For the same reason, Thailand canceled a pretty decent order.

 

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I see no point in developing a weapon system and promoting it to the market when you cannot supply it in required numbers.

Now comes the process of inclusion of T-84 tanks BM Oplot for the production of the state defense order for the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 2017. Production capacity of the T-84 tanks Oplot-T production will only grow. On this of commitments Ukraine has not swerve. How would it be desirable to anyone.

For the same reason, Thailand canceled a pretty decent order.

Understand correctly. Economically profitable to open and reopen node production line to the tank, if the order does not exceed 50 tanks on the contract. In this there is also the Thai wine. Personally, in my opinion, I think if you order from Thailand would be 150 tanks. All tanks were used for a long time Ukraine shipped.

 

[Dazzler]

Understand correctly. Economically profitable to open and reopen node production line to the tank, if the order does not exceed 50 tanks on the contract. In this there is also the Thai wine. Personally, in my opinion, I think if you order from Thailand would be 150 tanks. All tanks were used for a long time Ukraine shipped.

For 49 tanks at 200 million, you got yourself a good deal at just over $4 million per mbt. Thailand is also not happy with the battery and had some other minor complains about the weapon system. The major issue is that you lost a customer that had planned to buy the mbt in big numbers.

Thais were eventually looking for 200-300 pieces. It's a shame you lost a lucrative contract.

 

[Glavcom]

For 49 tanks at 200 million, you got yourself a good deal at just over $4 million per mbt. Thailand is also not happy with the battery and had some other minor complains about the weapon system. The major issue is that you lost a customer that had planned to buy the mbt in big numbers.

Thais were eventually looking for 200-300 pieces. It's a shame you lost a lucrative contract.

Dazzler, you're right. But the people who make these tanks are ready to perform the contract. And they do everything possible to make this a party to perform the contract of Thailand.
Plus, now there is a preparation of production for the manufacture of tanks T-84 BM Oplot for the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 2017 state defense order.
How can you not understand that there is no sense for Pakistan to move from a series of tanks "T-80UD" on Chinese tanks. Yes Chinese tanks are beautiful, do not argue. The quality of what? You're not going to fight beauty.
The second point. Rejecting Pakistan again from Ukraine. More return will be gone. This, too, you have to understand. So who will benefit from this then, if Pakistan will make a bet on the Chinese tank? Pakistan will win? No. Ukraine will lose? Of course not!
Ukrainian proverb says. "Old friend, is always better than two new friends."

 

[monitor]

Dazzler, you're right. But the people who make these tanks are ready to perform the contract. And they do everything possible to make this a party to perform the contract of Thailand.
Plus, now there is a preparation of production for the manufacture of tanks T-84 BM Oplot for the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 2017 state defense order.
How can you not understand that there is no sense for Pakistan to move from a series of tanks "T-80UD" on Chinese tanks. Yes Chinese tanks are beautiful, do not argue. The quality of what? You're not going to fight beauty.
The second point. Rejecting Pakistan again from Ukraine. More return will be gone. This, too, you have to understand. So who will benefit from this then, if Pakistan will make a bet on the Chinese tank? Pakistan will win? No. Ukraine will lose? Of course not!
Ukrainian proverb says. "Old friend, is always better than two new friends."

Can T-80UD turn into New oplot BM

 

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Can T-80UD turn into New oplot BM

Tank T-84 BM Oplot traces its history from the T-80UD "Birch", but this is two different machines. Two different machines both the tower and the hull.
But at the same time, T-80UD "Birch" can easily be easily upgraded to the level of the T-84 BM Oplot. Thus Pakistan could increase military-technical level of the T-80UD and Al-Khalid to military-technical level of T-84 tanks BM Oplot. By upgrading.