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Regimes have their own agendas that is mostly centered on staying in power and trying to gain as much goodwill among the powers of the world but the opposition groups/organizations have their faults too. We have to realize that while there are millions anti-Arab regime supporters or just people like me who want to see changes peacefully and not necessarily calling for any armed conflicts agains them (I am not as it will just become worse) there are millions of people who support them 100% and that's just how it is.

Now what I have been calling for, for years are new visions and expanding the Arab League and transforming it into a truly meaningful organization that can help the people in the Arab world and not the closed coffee club that it is. I have never seen a single Arab from any country having even the opportunity to speak about the region, their visions, dreams or speaking directly to the leaders. I don't understand, especially in globalized times like that, why Arabs cannot sit down and work on such basics.

Look at Europeans. 100's of different ethic group, languages, totally different cultures, people who have been killing each other for longer and more brutally than any other people in history and who just 70 years ago killed almost 100 MILLION of each other (250.000 just 20 years ago in the Balkans (center of Europe) can cooperate such closely on ALL fields yet the Arab regimes that have 1000 times more in common with each other cannot. Even in the GCC there are silly idiotic rivalries. Just look at the KSA and Qatar relations.

I am lost for words. Even here on PDF when I try to discuss such topics among the Arab users it seems that most don't care even so much as to try to take part in such discussions. Not sure if they are content with the status quo, are afraid of speaking or whatever it is. Normally we tend to be very vocal about politics and everyone has a solution and is very good at speaking out and telling everything what should be done but the number of people who are actually doing anything on the ground is minimal…..

We the diaspora have a special role here and we have failed too.

Now let's discuss Shia-Sunni nonsense, Hamas, House of Saud etc. while the region is a gigantic mess.

I personally won't waste time or effort discussing numerous challenges in Arab world. All I expect from other Arabs is to acknowledge the wrongdoings occurring and not to support them.
 
They were barking of some unified Arab joint force months ago? Where is that join force? How hard can it be to create? The region is on fire but still nothing. I wonder if anyone is preventing this but the reality is that if they really bothered not even the US could prevent us from doing that. It's beyond hopeless.

It will take some time to create a joint force. Especially when you consider all parties involved have to agree on its make up, command, and its objectives. That's all without going into things such as interoperability, logistics, and training.

The protocols for the creation of joint Arab Force that will hopefully be signed this August (they were meant for this month but it was delayed after a request from the Egyptian COS so further talks can happen).

مشاورات عربية لعقد اجتماع وزراء الخارجية والدفاع لاقرار"القوة المشتركة" |اليوم السابع

بن حلي: اجتماع عربي نهاية أغسطس لإقرار إنشاء القوة العربية المشتركة - الإمارات اليوم
 
Farsi, the Arab intervention in Yemen has been approved by the UN, the Yemeni president and the Arab League. It's intended to remove a murderous terror cult (Houthi's) from large areas of Yemen which they have been occupying since September 2014 after their illegal coup d'état which was condemned by the UN and world community.

Secondly in such air campaigns and wars in general it's impossible to avoid civilian casualties but nothing that KSA or others that take part have done can be described as systematic war crimes like the 1000 times bigger and 1000 times longer and more systematic crimes of your favorite Al-Assad. So your comparison is moronic.

The Houthi's are deliberately hiding among civilians too which has been confirmed again and again by independent sources.

Besides the Houthi's are shelling large areas of Yemen and have killed as many if not more civilians since the conflict began. You might ask the people of Aden and other areas of Southern Yemen. They did not take power in Yemen while handling out roses before the intervention occurred either.

Every sane person can see that Syria has been abandoned and that the Syrian people have been lied to by the Kenyan clown Obama.

And no, KSA or the coalition are not innocent in Yemen nor is the Syrian opposition that in Syria but that's always the case in WARS. That's why they are called wars.

Yet it should be plain obvious for every sane person that the Al-Assad regime's crimes are not crimes that you can make excuses for in any way nor are they comparable to anything seen in the region.
The arabs don't need green light from UN or EU to intervene in other arab muslim country like Yemen specially these so called borders were recent 100 years ago were no borders and the people in the Arabian peninsula speak the same languege and have the same religion and culture
 
I personally won't waste time or effort discussing numerous challenges in Arab world. All I expect from other Arabs is to acknowledge the wrongdoings occurring and not to support them.

Truth be told there are in fact many vibrant communities in the Arab world who are trying to change the status quo for the better but sadly they don't have the required room/freedom to do significant changes. It really is a very sad situation considering the enormous potential, what hardships the people in the Arab world have gone through and are going through and our ancient and proud history. But no doubt that we are to blame for it before anyone else but outsiders are hardly helping either.

Tariq Ramadan was right.



The real martyrs in our world are the civilians who have been killed for no real reason and those people who gave their life's for their countries and region in order to improve it for EVERYONE and not certain sects/political ideologies.

Our clergy is to blame too. Each day they should be speaking out against what is going on but many of them (on both sides) are fueling the flames and creating robots.

No wonder that the region has given rise to groups like Daesh. All those frustrations, problems, misery, lack of freedom, hopelessness and with no visions to try to change that truly from the regimes.
 
First of all you have reading comprehension problems. I clearly said that I dont want US to be involved at all.

But since US is HEAVILY involved in Syria & Iraq in name of saving Kurds and poor Shia militias, dropping thousands of bombs every month, I find it suck that they do absolutely NOTHING to protect Syrians and Iraqis under barrel bombs and IRAM rockets.

As for Yemen or Gaza, no illegal barrel bombs are used there and number of casualties are 100 times less than in Syria, no millions of refugees etc etc (nearly half of Syria population are refugees!).


So 5 minutes ago u said Syria is not US problem, now u are saying that thousands bombs they drop are not enough.

You want US to bomb ISIS like crazy and in same time do nothing against Assad who is much bigger criminal. So you are hypocrite.

In contrast to u, I dont have any double standards. My position is that US should not involve, but if they come, they should protect civilians from both sides.
Exactly, if you believe western media there are only Kurds and ISIS in Syria while there are also Turkmen/Arab groups who are larger and stronger than YPG. Kurds are tiny % of Syrian consensus.
 
First of all you have reading comprehension problems. I clearly said that I dont want US to be involved at all.

But since US is HEAVILY involved in Syria & Iraq in name of saving Kurds and poor Shia militias, dropping thousands of bombs every month, I find it suck that they do absolutely NOTHING to protect Syrians and Iraqis under barrel bombs and IRAM rockets.

As for Yemen or Gaza, no illegal barrel bombs are used there and number of casualties are 100 times less than in Syria, no millions of refugees etc etc (nearly half of Syria population are refugees!).


So 5 minutes ago u said Syria is not US problem, now u are saying that thousands bombs they drop are not enough.

You want US to bomb ISIS like crazy and in same time do nothing against Assad who is much bigger criminal. So you are hypocrite.

In contrast to u, I dont have any double standards. My position is that US should not involve, but if they come, they should protect civilians from both sides.

If you don't want US involved, why are you crying incessantly about nfz?

Obama has armed FSA with rifles, anti tank and anti aircraft weapons (against popular opinion mind you) so he has not done nothing. You're just pissed that he's not doing everything you want,

Who cares if they are barrel bombs or chocolate bombs, the end result is the same.

If it was up to me we wouldn't be bombing anyone including IS. What part of 'total withdrawal of US involvement in the ME' don't you understand? My comment about how much Obama is bombing IS was to highlighting the illogic of US foreign policy. I'm glad you don't want US involved. Maybe now you'll stop squealing about Obama.
 
Don't compare a 6 year stalemate war to a 1 month bombing campaign. If you bombed Gaza for 6 years the casualties will surpass those of the Syrian conflict.
War in Syria started less than 4 years ago. Rockets from Gaza started 14 years ago (and suicide bombings much earlier).

If you don't want US involved, why are you crying incessantly about nfz?
Only one who is crying is u, I am calm like a cucumber. I explained my position 3 times already.

Obama has armed FSA with rifles, anti tank and anti aircraft weapons (against popular opinion mind you) so he has not done nothing. You're just pissed that he's not doing everything you want,
LOL, all Obama did is training "moderate rebel" force of 60 men :lol: Can u show any Stinger in rebel hands in 4 years?

Who cares if they are barrel bombs or chocolate bombs, the end result is the same.
According to international law dumb bombs in populated areas are a war crime and u result is not same at all: more than 100 times difference.

If it was up to me we wouldn't be bombing anyone including IS.
5 minutes ago u said that US is bombing not enough.:rolleyes: U are too much confused.
 
Farsi, the Arab intervention in Yemen has been approved by the UN, the Yemeni president and the Arab League. It's intended to remove a murderous terror cult (Houthi's) from large areas of Yemen which they have been occupying since September 2014 after their illegal coup d'état which was condemned by the UN and world community.

Secondly in such air campaigns and wars in general it's impossible to avoid civilian casualties but nothing that KSA or others that take part have done can be described as systematic war crimes like the 1000 times bigger and 1000 times longer and more systematic crimes of your favorite Al-Assad. So your comparison is moronic.

The Houthi's are deliberately hiding among civilians too which has been confirmed again and again by independent sources.

Besides the Houthi's are shelling large areas of Yemen and have killed as many if not more civilians since the conflict began. You might ask the people of Aden and other areas of Southern Yemen. They did not take power in Yemen while handling out roses before the intervention occurred either.

Every sane person can see that Syria has been abandoned and that the Syrian people have been lied to by the Kenyan clown Obama.

And no, KSA or the coalition are not innocent in Yemen nor is the Syrian opposition that in Syria but that's always the case in WARS. That's why they are called wars.

Yet it should be plain obvious for every sane person that the Al-Assad regime's crimes are not crimes that you can make excuses for in any way nor are they comparable to anything seen in the region.

Actually the UN has been imploring you to stop bombing Yemen. When did they endorse it?

What KSA does is none of my business, I've said it before. I was highlighting the rampant hypocrisy. Speaking of presidents in exile, why does KSA support Hadi as legitimate Yemen president, but in Egypt they removed Morsi who was voted in fair and square? So coups are OK in Egypt but not OK in Yemen? See the hypocrisy I'm talking about?

Assad has been fighting a civil war for 4 years now. He is the legitimate head of the Syrian government. He is allowed as the president to do whatever it takes to defend his country. Abraham Lincoln's war against the south killed 600000 people and he's considered a hero. If you decide to take up arms against the government, you cannot complain when the government responds in kind. You either win or lose, but don't complain that the government is too violent.

KSA war in Yemen is an unprovoked invasion of another sovereign country. No way to spin this. You CHOSE to bomb them. You will have to live with the civilian casualties.

The world has seen that Assad, a pluralist and secularist is the only decent man to rule Syria. We don't want medieval meatheads like AQ or IS. If they want to remove him, they should do it themselves and stop complaining. The only people who want Assad removed are Islamists and Zionists.
 
It will take some time to create a joint force. Especially when you consider all parties involved have to agree on its make up, command, and its objectives. That's all without going into things such as interoperability, logistics, and training.

The protocols for the creation of joint Arab Force that will hopefully be signed this August (they were meant for this month but it was delayed after a request from the Egyptian COS so further talks can happen).

مشاورات عربية لعقد اجتماع وزراء الخارجية والدفاع لاقرار"القوة المشتركة" |اليوم السابع

بن حلي: اجتماع عربي نهاية أغسطس لإقرار إنشاء القوة العربية المشتركة - الإمارات اليوم

Let us see brother. Allow me to remain skeptical until I see real concrete steps. Even if it will be created one day I am very curious about its effectiveness if deployed in regions of the Arab world that are unstable/suffering from turmoil/wars.

Look at Daesh. A menace that EVERY Arab regime should be fighting against as they are destroying the region and keeping us from progressing on all fronts. Arab regimes, which are potential targets of Daesh and groups alike and in many cases have suffered from them tremendously from Algeria to Iraq) should all exchange their hands and look past their silly rivalries to help. For instance in Iraq. KSA and the GCC offered Abadi to bomb Daesh but where denied that honor. It's because there is a lack of trust and for what exactly? What are the people gaining from it? Shall we kill brother and sister just because of a slightly different sec in the same religion (Sunni vs Shia) or political differences (monarchy - republic) etc.?

Less than 100 years ago people of Southern Iraq and Najd (just to make an example) were traveling and settling, marrying each other, doing business etc. There were no formal borders. People did not look at each other as enemies or foreigners. Sure, there was the Ikhwan etc. but I am talking about the common man and woman. Even Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab al-Tamimi lived in Baghdad and Basra and married there as did the descendants of many famous Iraqi Shia Arab clerical families today.

Now both sides due to sectarianism are wishing each other death while their great-grandfathers lived in peace and considered themselves as brethren.

Same with people in Southern Iraq and Yemen. Today we have a conflict there and hatred flowing. For no real reason really. Just regimes doing their dirty work.

I still remember stories that my great-grandfather told about (he died when I was 10) about how people from across the Arab world when doing Hajj and Umrah came together and how different it was back then. He of course lived to see the many schism in the Arab world (Baa'thism, Arab nationalism, Islamism, monarchism) etc. Today you can somewhat feel the tensions between Sunnis and Shias in a place that they consider the most holy. It should not be like that.

I would have loved to see KSA and neighboring Arab states of Iraq (for instance) fight side by side with Iraqis to remove Daesh. Or Iraqis fighting side by side elsewhere to fight injustice, tyranny and terror. Or in Egypt. Or if the richer Arab states did more for the poor ones. Tried to lead by an example to help the region overall. Like how the EU decided to help integrate Eastern European countries for the sake of European unity.

Well, long story short, we need serious changes and we should work towards that no matter how hopeless it might look. We don't have to hold hands 24/7 but we can surely do much better. Maybe I have lost my mind I don't know.

The arabs don't need green light from UN or EU to intervene in other arab muslim country like Yemen specially these so called borders were recent 100 years ago were no borders and the people in the Arabian peninsula speak the same languege and have the same religion and culture

That's not how it works as we live in an era of nation states. 100 years ago an Yemeni did not consider Abha, Jazan or Salalah as foreign (of course it was not his homeland but you get my point here) nor did a person from Basra consider Kuwait or nearby KSA as foreign territory. Or a person in Amman, Tabuk for instance. It was all land inhabited by Arabs, albeit different ancient regions.

It's more difficult for a person living in Hafar al-Batin to enter nearby Samawa than traveling to Sri Lanka for God's sake nowadays. The regimes and circumstances in the region have created barriers that are unnatural. Now people in the region believe that the difference between an Yemeni and Egyptian is bigger than the difference between an Egyptian and Pole, lol. Sometimes it appears like that.

This is the same almost everywhere else in the Arab world.

Actually the UN has been imploring you to stop bombing Yemen. When did they endorse it?

What KSA does is none of my business, I've said it before. I was highlighting the rampant hypocrisy. Speaking of presidents in exile, why does KSA support Hadi as legitimate Yemen president, but in Egypt they removed Morsi who was voted in fair and square? So coups are OK in Egypt but not OK in Yemen? See the hypocrisy I'm talking about?

Assad has been fighting a civil war for 4 years now. He is the legitimate head of the Syrian government. He is allowed as the president to do whatever it takes to defend his country. Abraham Lincoln's war against the south killed 600000 people and he's considered a hero. If you decide to take up arms against the government, you cannot complain when the government responds in kind. You either win or lose, but don't complain that the government is too violent.

KSA war in Yemen is an unprovoked invasion of another sovereign country. No way to spin this. You CHOSE to bomb them. You will have to live with the civilian casualties.

The world has seen that Assad, a pluralist and secularist is the only decent man to rule Syria. We don't want medieval meatheads like AQ or IS. If they want to remove him, they should do it themselves and stop complaining. The only people who want Assad removed are Islamists and Zionists.

What don't you understand? I am not a ruler in KSA nor a member of the House of Saud nor do the average Saudi Arabian have anything to say about the foreign policy of KSA. Do you understand that?

If you finally understand that after months if not years of discussions here on PDF we might have a sensible discussion.

The US, UK, most of the Arab League and many if not most UN member states support the ongoing operation or are neutral. Few are criticizing it directly.

Besides there was an illegal coup d'état in Yemen in September 2014 done by the Houthi's which was condemned by the UN and most countries evacuated their citizens and closed their embassies. The Houthi's were killing many civilian Yemenis and opponents before they took power. Long before KSA even entered the scene. I guess that you missed that.

KSA did not remove anything in Egypt but the Egyptians did so themselves. Did you see any Saudi Arabian soldiers or people when Morsi was removed?:lol:

Let @Frogman educate you.

Besides those are not comparable episodes as Morsi was not a mass-murderer as Al-Assad. KSA had diplomatic relations with Egypt when Morsi ruled and Morsi even visited KSA and King Abdullah visited Morsi in Egypt.

LOL. KSA has not invaded Yemen. KSA and its allies are conducting airstrikes not against Yemen but the terrorist Houthi cult who ILLEGALLY took power in Yemen along with loyal pro-Saleh (a former dictator of Yemen who ruled it for over 30 years and who is one of the most corrupt pelicans on the planet - he stole 60 billion dollars while he ruled) after Hadi (the elected president) went to the Arab League to ask for aid in fighting the menace.

UN Report: Yemen’s Saleh Took Billions

Yes, the Houthi's were an immediate threat to KSA as they have attacked KSA before (2009) and as they were mobilizing a huge number of troops near the Saudi-Yemeni border including ballistic missiles etc. They were also openly speaking about invading KSA. Moreover they consider certain regions of KSA as belonging to "them".

What a bunch of nonsense. Al-Assad is an evil mass-murdering dictator. Using your logic Saddam was a saint too just because his regime was "secular" which it was not truly anyway. Neither in Iraq or Syria.

Your comparisons are beyond moronic. Sorry. Al-Assad is the most violent leader in the Arab world since Saddam. Supporting him is the equivalent of supporting genocide in Syria.

There are 0 Zionists in Syria. Nice try. Yes, only Islamists support his downfall. What a bunch of nonsense. Let us ask Syrians here. @Dr.Thrax @Antaréss . There is not even any need to ask them as your claim is an absolutely absurd and moronic claim.

Besides I already told you that KSA and its allies are not innocent in Yemen nor the Syrian opposition in Syria but they are as of now at least the lesser evils. Nor am I supporting any regimes in the region although I obviously prefer certain regimes over other regimes but none are my "ideal" regimes.
 
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LOL, all Obama did is training "moderate rebel" force of 60 men :lol: Can u show any Stinger in rebel hands in 4 years?

Roughly a billion dollars a year was being given to FSA until it was recently reduced. I'd say that's something. What else do you want him to do? Send the troops? Need I remind you that even one cent going to FSA is against popular opinion, so you should be thanking Obama for going against the grain on this.

According to international law dumb bombs in populated areas are a war crime and u result is not same at all: more than 100 times difference.





You mean like this? You shameless hypocrite.

5 minutes ago u said that US is bombing not enough.:rolleyes: U are too much confused.

I said it to illustrate a point. I've mad my position clear many times.

What don't you understand? I am not a ruler in KSA nor a member of the House of Saud nor do the average Saudi Arabian have anything to say about the foreign policy of KSA. Do you understand that?

If you finally understand that after months if not years of discussions here on PDF we might have a sensible discussion.

The US, UK, most of the Arab League and many if not most UN member states support the ongoing operation or are neutral. Few are criticizing it directly.

Besides there was an illegal coup d'état in Yemen in September 2014 done by the Houthi's which was condemned by the UN and most countries evacuated their citizens and closed their embassies. The Houthi's were killing many civilian Yemenis and opponents before they took power. Long before KSA even entered the scene. I guess that you missed that.

KSA did not remove anything in Egypt but the Egyptians did so themselves. Did you see any Saudi Arabian soldiers or people when Morsi was removed?:lol:

Let @Frogman educate you.

Besides those are not comparable episodes as Morsi was not a mass-murderer as Al-Assad. KSA had diplomatic relations with Egypt when Morsi ruled and Morsi even visited KSA and King Abdullah visited Morsi in Egypt.

LOL. KSA has not invaded Yemen. KSA and its allies are conducting airstrikes not against Yemen but the terrorist Houthi cult who ILLEGALLY took power in Yemen along with loyal pro-Saleh (a former dictator of Yemen who ruled it for over 30 years and who is one of the most corrupt pelicans on the planet - he stole 60 billion dollars while he ruled) after Hadi (the elected president) went to the Arab League to ask for aid in fighting the menace.

UN Report: Yemen’s Saleh Took Billions

Yes, the Houthi's were an immediate threat to KSA as they have attacked KSA before (2009) and as they were mobilizing a huge number of troops near the Saudi-Yemeni border including ballistic missiles etc. They were also openly speaking about invading KSA. Moreover they consider certain regions of KSA as belonging to "them".

What a bunch of nonsense. Al-Assad is an evil mass-murdering dictator. Using your logic Saddam was a saint too just because his regime was "secular" which it was not truly anyway. Neither in Iraq or Syria.

Your comparisons are beyond moronic. Sorry. Al-Assad is the most violent leader in the Arab world since Saddam. Supporting him is the equivalent of supporting genocide in Syria.

There are 0 Zionists in Syria. Nice try. Yes, only Islamists support his downfall. What a bunch of nonsense. Let us ask Syrians here. @Dr.Thrax @Antaréss . There is not even any need to ask them as your claim is an absolutely absurd and moronic claim.

Besides I already told you that KSA and its allies are not innocent in Yemen nor the Syrian opposition in Syria but they are as of now at least the lesser evils. Nor am I supporting any regimes in the region although I obviously prefer certain regimes over other regimes but none are my "ideal" regimes.

Houthi coup was in Yemen, not KSA. Just highlighting the double standard. A coup in Yemen gets bombed and a coup in Egypt is given $20 billion. I don't think flip flop wearing, khat chewing tribesmen are a threat to the 4th most expensive military in the world.

Sisi was/is killing and torturing people in Egypt too, and he deposed an elected president as well. I don't see Al Assad as much different from other ME leaders. He's not perfect but he is necessary. No one likes Saddam but now we appreciate him because he fought AQ. The same thing you say about Assad I could say about Mubarak, Al Sisi, Saddam, Al Khalifa etc. My prescription is to get US out of the equation and deal with these problems internally or regionally.

I've corresponded with @Dr.Thrax and he supports a democracy-sharia hybrid government. It's totally his right but obviously Islamism/Sharia is fiercely opposed my many Syrians.
 
Roughly a billion dollars a year was being given to FSA until it was recently reduced. I'd say that's something. What else do you want him to do? Send the troops? Need I remind you that even one cent going to FSA is against popular opinion, so you should be thanking Obama for going against the grain on this.







You mean like this? You shameless hypocrite.



I said it to illustrate a point. I've mad my position clear many times.



Houthi coup was in Yemen, not KSA. Just highlighting the double standard. A coup in Yemen gets bombed and a coup in Egypt is given $20 billion. I don't think flip flop wearing, khat chewing tribesmen are a threat to the 4th most expensive military in the world.

Sisi was/is killing and torturing people in Egypt too, and he deposed an elected president as well. I don't see Al Assad as much different from other ME leaders. He's not perfect but he is necessary. No one likes Saddam but now we appreciate him because he fought AQ. The same thing you say about Assad I could say about Mubarak, Al Sisi, Saddam, Al Khalifa etc. My prescription is to get US out of the equation and deal with these problems internally or regionally.

I've corresponded with @Dr.Thrax and he supports a democracy-sharia hybrid government. It's totally his right but obviously Islamism/Sharia is fiercely opposed my many Syrians.
Umm, when was it fiercely opposed? A rudaw poll of KURDS (Syrian, Iraqi, Turkish, whoever else...) found that 71% of Kurds want an Islamic constitution. And Kurds are called "secular" by the west. :omghaha:
If that number of Kurds want and Islamic constitution, the number of Arabs is way higher, I assure you. I know from experience.
 
Let us see brother. Allow me to remain skeptical until I see real concrete steps. Even if it will be created one day I am very curious about its effectiveness if deployed

I depends if it will actually ever be deployed or what it is deployed for. That in itself depends on its make up and the resources pushed towards it.

IIRC the aim was to form a combined force of rapidly deployable units (air assault and possibly marines + SF) that were capable of conducting operations on short notice, in essence a reactive force. Whether this is still the goal I don't really know.

Now, if you want to conduct operations such as Yemen (NFZ Maritime blockade etc.) you'll need both air and naval assets (in addition to tactical+strategic lift aircraft and landing ships). A lot of these assets are already being used in Op RH. The question is could the forces participating in Op RH carry out multiple simultaneous operations across the ME? IDK.
 
I depends if it will actually ever be deployed or what it is deployed for. That in itself depends on its make up and the resources pushed towards it.

IIRC the aim was to form a combined force of rapidly deployable units (air assault and possibly marines + SF) that were capable of conducting operations on short notice, in essence a reactive force. Whether this is still the goal I don't really know.

Now, if you want to conduct operations such as Yemen (NFZ Maritime blockade etc.) you'll need both air and naval assets (in addition to tactical+strategic lift aircraft and landing ships). A lot of these assets are already being used in Op RH. The question is could the forces participating in Op RH carry out multiple simultaneous operations across the ME? IDK.

I don't get point of small rapid deployment force, is it intended for special operations or what? If the plan is formation of joint Arab force, it needs to be bigger than this and have small portions deployed in nations which participate. Otherwise it is rather a symbolic measure. @Saif al-Arab
 
Roughly a billion dollars a year was being given to FSA until it was recently reduced.
Yep this one billion was used to train 60 rebels :rofl:

I'd say that's something. What else do you want him to do? Send the troops? Need I remind you that even one cent going to FSA is against popular opinion, so you should be thanking Obama for going against the grain on this.
I told you twenty times:

1) Not intervene at all.
2) If they intervene dropping thousands of bombs each month to protect Kurds and Shia militias, it would be fair if they used at least 10% of that strength to protect Sunni civilians as well.






You mean like this? You shameless hypocrite.
LOL again. These are standard NATO smoke shells M825A1. Their purpose is to produce smoke and nothing else.

M825 155mm Projectile
http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/smoke.htm


Here the aftermath pic from first case u posted:

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Neither guy nor ambulance who stood in the center of that "terrible" smoke attack were not harmed at all.
 
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