Syrian Civil War (Graphic Photos/Vid Not Allowed)

[Superboy]

So? Syrian army is 200,000. Insurgents is only 30,000. WE are the majority. YOU are the minority. The majority always wins tee hee hee ta haa haa

 

[Al-Kurdi]

You are talking to Superboy brother. If he went to Syria right now and tried to speak with Syrians of all backgrounds he would quickly realize that Syrian Ba'athism is practically more or less dead.



Historical facts don't turn into "shit" just because they happen to be painful if one is a Kurd or someone else. I am a fast writer, you should try this instead of spending 1 hour writing complete and utter nonsense like you just did.

Syria is an Arab country, I am an Arab, this section of PDF mostly deals with Arab affairs. You got a problem?

Yes, we are Arabs and I don't care what he likes or not. We have cordial ties besides I am of mixed ancestry.

Arabs actually number 450 million people if the diaspora is included.

I was not comparing Arabs with Kurds but Arabians. You started talking shit because I wrote the truth and it hurt you. There were no insults involved either before you began.

You are an idiot and have inferiority complexes and no clue about Arab or Semitic history or that of the region but that is expected of stateless people with little culture or heritage.

Go open a thread about your 1.5 million Kurds in Syria. Nobody gives a shit outside of you. Also stop using a Jordanian flag and pretending to be a friend of Arabs when you are clearly anti-Arab.

No I am anti-bullshit. Recent days I have seen to much bullshit coming from Arabs, even from my friends in Jordan. Historical facts? more like bullshit and unliek you I don't have time to go through this bullshit point by point. Just cause Hafez claimed it to be an Arab country doesn't make it one. Typing shit is nothing difficult, really. I can do the same. No I'm not hurt, I'm just tired of seeing you type so much shit. Actually many do give a shit about us, go to Al-Jazeera, CNN or BBC and see for yourself. It's you with inferiority complex thinking you're speaking for the others.

 

[jamahir]

We are telling you that it is not strange that Sunni Arabs form a large percentage of pro-Assad Syrians when they form at least 75% of the total population.

and that cancels out thrax's bombastic statements.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

1.7 million stateless Kurds in Syria or 4 million stateless Kurds in Iraq do not interest me as long as they are not hostile towards Arabs and as long as we don't have Kurdish users here (you) speaking with two tongues. The Arab users here already know the ground realities and the agenda of the Kurdish leadership and that's the main thing here. Nor will they ever succeed with their plans in regards to what I mentioned early of stealing Arab land or land that is not theirs or inhabited by them. End of story. Not going to bother more.

@Dr.Thrax that Superboy is a special case. It seems that logic is a foreign word for him.

and that cancels out thrax's bombastic statements.

It would had the same Sunni Arabs not been the main driving force behind the bigger opposition. Look at the percentages, that's the important thing.

Take India. What does it matter that there are almost 200 million Muslims in India when they form less than 15% of the population?

Besides pro-Assad Alawis are probably bigger in sheer numbers than Sunni Arabs despite there being 6 times fewer Alawis than Sunni Arabs.

Also saying that Ba'athism (nothing to do with Arabism) is mostly a dead ideology in Syria is neither wrong. Even most pro-Assad Syrians are not Ba'athists. Your friend Syrian Lion for instance abandoned that ideology and he is an Christian Arab.

Why don't you learn Arabic and visit Syrian forums and see for yourself? Besides over 50% of the Al-Assad army are not even Syrians anymore. Ever wondered where all those Iraqis, Lebanese, Yemenis, Farsis, Afghans etc. came from?

The Syrian opposition excluding ISIS on the other hand is almost entirely Syrian.

 

[Al-Kurdi]

Are you really that dense?
Assad's elections are as fair as Putin's, or the CCP's. I.E. not fair at all. And FYI, 89% is IMPOSSIBLE. With 100 people 89% is impossible. Now try 12 million ("the turnout" for the "vote")

Uhm, they are genetically close to us. That's the reason Syrian Arabs are Arab. Otherwise we'd just be a mix of Romans, Greeks, Turks, Kurds, and Persians.

the average Syrian is closer to the average Kurd or average Turk or even average Armenian than to a Saudi genetically. I'd guess even closer to Mizrahi Jews.

in general all West Asians are genetically close to eachother but geographically Syrians are closer to others than to Saudis and people who live closer mix naturally.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

popular ??

you forget that the present indian government is led by the hindu reactionary party, bjp, and if you visit the south asian threads, you will see me ( a socialist ) constantly bombarded by so many indian members who tend to be ultra-nationalist and aligned with bjp and rss ( the background movement of bjp ).

the indian youth of the last 20 years has been of the reactionary type, putting religious/pseudo-religious doctrines before general welfare of society... and "commies" are a much maligned lot.

this is different from the earlier decades, especially the 60's, when students actually joined armed socialist movements against the establishment and yet others agitated in the cities through other means.

and i am among a few muslim socialists in present india, and i am not so old... different from earlier decades since 1921 ( establishment of indian communist party ) when muslims were greatly participant.



the "arab world" again ?? yeah, most of the "arab league" ranged against arab syria.



gaddafi wasn't a president or prime minister... indeed, there was entirely a unique system in libyan jamahiriya... a direct-democracy.

but what you ask, i must compile from earlier posts and you must give me a few days... besides, i am sleepy.



he is a fine leader.



ba'athism should proceed along its socialist journey and adopt the green book.

but more of this another time please.

Thanks for the explanation but that's not my impression but you for sure must know better than me unless you are biased here.

Yes, again. Unless Syria and Libya became Indian countries or Ugandan ones.

Not all. A few are still pro/neutral such as Iraq and Algeria. Most are understandably anti-Al-Assad just like 95% became anti-Saddam when he started committing war crimes.

The same thing will happen with any other leader that repeats those grave mistakes. Not sure why you are surprised?

No, he just happened to rule for 40+ years and was one of the longest ruling head of states when he lived. So much for republicanism buddy. Direct democracy? OK. Never heard that one before.

Ba'athism is a dead ideology and a mixture of nazism, socialism, nationalism, communism etc. The one we saw in practice at least. As you know communism also sounded like a sweet innocent ideology when first created/drafted by Karl Max. In practice it was a different ball game.

the average Syrian is closer to the average Kurd or average Turk or even average Armenian than to a Saudi genetically. I'd guess even closer to Mizrahi Jews.

in general all West Asians are genetically close to eachother but geographically Syrians are closer to others than to Saudis and people who live closer mix naturally.

LOL, at the Kurdish butthurt. Saudi Arabia borders the Levant region directly and mutual population movements from both regions have occurred for millenniums. All the ancestors of Sham and nearby regions lived on the Arabian Peninsula for millenniums before they made the journey northwards. Both Semitic regions too. DNA tests confirm the closeness on all fronts let alone in terms of religion, language, culture, cuisine, history etc. Same tribes and clans, similar dialects. You name it.

Next thing will be that Jordanians and Saudi Arabians are a world apart.

That's because Kurds are not homogenous and a fairly new ethnicity. In reality you are mixed with Arabs, various Semites and other peoples.

Mizrahi Jews are Arab Jews from across the Arab world (Yemen, Egypt, Syria, Iraq etc.) so no shit sherlock.

Turks too are mixed with Arabs and Semites and other ME people. Hardly strange given their geographic proximity.

@Dr.Thrax

 

[Superboy]

the average Syrian is closer to the average Kurd or average Turk or even average Armenian than to a Saudi genetically. I'd guess even closer to Mizrahi Jews.

in general all West Asians are genetically close to eachother but geographically Syrians are closer to others than to Saudis and people who live closer mix naturally.

True that. I noticed Syrians typically have lighter skin tones than Saudis.

It would had the same Sunni Arabs not been the main driving force behind the bigger opposition. Look at the percentages, that's the important thing.

Take India. What does it matter that there are almost 200 million Muslims in India when they form less than 15% of the population?

Besides pro-Assad Alawis are probably bigger in sheer numbers than Sunni Arabs despite there being 6 times fewer Alawis than Sunni Arabs.

Also saying that Ba'athism (nothing to do with Arabism) is mostly a dead ideology in Syria is neither wrong. Even most pro-Assad Syrians are not Ba'athists. Your friend Syrian Lion for instance abandoned that ideology and he is an Christian Arab.

Why don't you learn Arabic and visit Syrian forums and see for yourself? Besides over 50% of the Al-Assad army are not even Syrians anymore. Ever wondered where all those Iraqis, Lebanese, Yemenis, Farsis, Afghans etc. came from?

The Syrian opposition excluding ISIS on the other hand is almost entirely Syrian.

All Muslism are by default Sunnis. Some Muslisms are special. They call themselves Salafis. Some Muslims are special. They call themselves Shia. Some Muslims are special. They call themselves Ibadi. Sunnis are never compared with any of them. There is no Sunni community.

 

[jamahir]

Take India. What does it matter that there are almost 200 million Muslims in India when they form less than 15% of the population?

i don't understand the co-relation at all... syria is a country that is now in the fourth year of a nato regime-change invasion war, and most syrians stand with bashar al-assad and the syrian army, even if they are not ba'athist ( like you mentioned syrian lion ).

Besides over 50% of the Al-Assad army are not even Syrians anymore.

now where did you get that kind of figure ??

It would had the same Sunni Arabs not been the main driving force behind the bigger opposition. Look at the percentages, that's the important thing.

the "opposition" is mainly foreign... from brunei to belgium... from indonesia to india... from dagestan to denmark... and most having no syrian heritage at all.

this cannot be explained a hundred more times... this is 2015, man !!

Why don't you learn Arabic and visit Syrian forums and see for yourself?

no need... i didn't need to learn arabic to learn of a paltalk chat of libyans from 2012 when they spoke to a lady who had endured and seen horrendous torture at the hands of the same nato-created terrorists who in syria are called fsa and nusra... speaking of which, many terrorists who gained experience in the libya war went to syria.

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@waz @Irfan Baloch

please consider locking this thread... all i see is racist illogic and reactionary posts... and other things.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

True that. I noticed Syrians typically have lighter skin tones than Saudis.

Depends on the region of KSA which is the size of Western Europe. People of Hijaz and Northern KSA are almost identical to people of Levant, the South is close to Yemenis and Eastern Arabia has affinity with Iraq and Iran. In between you have the Afro-Arabs who form approximately 10% of the population and all the many minorities who are now Saudi Arabians which settled in what is now KSA (Arabia) due to Hajj, Umrah, trade etc. In particularly South Asians, South East Asians, Turks, Central Asians etc. Then there are the Bedouins who tend to be darker skinned due to exposure of the sun in KSA (mostly Najd) which you can fine in Syria too (Eastern and Southern Syria).

Your brethren (Chinese) are present too. For instance an army general of the Saudi Arabian army is of Chinese descent (Hui).

In general ethnic Arab/Arabian Saudi Arabians and ethnic Syrian Arabs from Homs, Damascus (same latitude as many areas of KSA) are almost impossible to pick apart.

Let's not forget that many local Saudi Arabians are originally from the Levant, Egypt, Yemen, Iraq etc. to begin with or have ancestral ties to those regions and certainly vice versa too. The borders were once not as defined as they are today.

But yes, in general Saudi Arabians tend to be more tanned but that's normal due to living on a more southernly located latitude but the differences are small overall vis-á-vis Arabs.

Still it's all the MENA and people look fairly similar. They have more affinity with each other than any other group in the world.

For instance I challenge you to pick a Hijazi and Egyptian/Jordanian/Shami Arab apart, an Northern Najdi from an Iraqi, an Eastern Arabian from an Iraqi/Southern Iranian and Eastern Arabian populations and a Southwestern Jazani/Najrani from an Northern Yemeni. Hint, in general you won't be able to do that unless they open their mouths. To begin with the dialects are similar in those immediate regions. For instance Hijazi and Egyptian Arabic are almost identical. Same with Shami etc.

Arabs will tell you.

@Dr.Thrax @Antaréss

True that. I noticed Syrians typically have lighter skin tones than Saudis.




All Muslism are by default Sunnis. Some Muslisms are special. They call themselves Salafis. Some Muslims are special. They call themselves Shia. Some Muslims are special. They call themselves Ibadi. Sunnis are never compared with any of them. There is no Sunni community.

You are special Superboy.

 

[jamahir]

@Horus

my request to you too ( along with irfan baloch and waz )... please consider locking this thread... all i see is racist illogic nonsense and reactionary posts... and other things.

i see no utility in this thread... i have even see vids here of fsa terrorists killing syrian soldier, either by shooting or through "hell cannon" bombardment.

if mods know of utility of this thread, it is fair that you tell that to me.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

i don't understand the co-relation at all... syria is a country that is now in the fourth year of a nato regime-change invasion war, and most syrians stand with bashar al-assad and the syrian army, even if they are not ba'athist ( like you mentioned syrian lion ).



now where did you get that kind of figure ??



the "opposition" is mainly foreign... from brunei to belgium... from indonesia to india... from dagestan to denmark... and most having no syrian heritage at all.

this cannot be explained a hundred more times... this is 2015, man !!



no need... i didn't need to learn arabic to learn of a paltalk chat of libyans from 2012 when they spoke to a lady who had endured and seen horrendous torture at the hands of the same nato-created terrorists who in syria are called fsa and nusra... speaking of which, many terrorists who gained experience in the libya war went to syria.

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@waz @Irfan Baloch

please consider locking this thread... all i see is racist illogic and reactionary posts... and other things.

No, they don't in such a case Al-Assad would be fully in control of Syria and 80% of all Syria would not have rebelled at one point or another.

You must be truly delusional to believe that the vast majority support Al-Assad as in him being the only option for them. That's bogus that I don't even believe that you believe in.

Yes, Nato hates Al-Assad so much that they have not attacked him and look silently at him carpet bombing his people.

You can take a look at videos from Syria. Each day dead Afghans, Iraqis, Lebanese, Yemenis, Iranians etc. fighting for the Al-Assad regime are shown.

While you hardly see any foreigners among FSA, Islamic Front or even Al-Nusra. The only foreigners present in Syria are humanitarian workers (doctors, many are Arabs or Syrians from abroad, I know one such lady) or those who join ISIS.

We Arabs when we watch videos from Syria can judge people's origin by their faces/look and dialect often. IT does not take a genius to see who is who Jamahir often.

I see FSA/Islamic Front etc. videos each week and all I see are Syrians speaking Arabic dialects of Syria.

@Dr.Thrax

Just like I can recognize people in KSA depending on the region just like you can do that with Indians.

Yes, Gaddafi was an innocent lamb himself. Anyway make that thread about Gaddafi on this section and I promise to contact some Libyans and persuade them to join PDF.

@Horus

my request to you too ( along with irfan baloch and waz )... please consider locking this thread... all i see is racist illogic and reactionary posts... and other things.

i see no utility in this thread... i have even vids here of fsa terrorists killing syrian soldier, either by shooting or through "hell cannon" bombardment.

if mods know of utility of this thread, it is fair that you tell that to me.

What are you talking about? We are discussing the conflict nor should this thread be locked just because you are anti-opposition. I am no fan of Houthi's but that does not mean that the Yemen threads should be closed.

Man up.

 

[jamahir]

Anyway make that thread about Gaddafi on this section and I promise to contact some Libyans and persuade them to join PDF.

there is one libyan already on pdf... he joined a few months ago... but you are welcome to invite the others now... they have 5500+ posts of mine to look through, many of which speak of libya.

over and out.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

there is one libyan already on pdf... he joined a few months ago... but you are welcome to invite the others now... they have 5500+ posts of mine to look through, many of which speak of libya.

over and out.

Really? That's impressive that he found his way to PDF. Not many Arab users left let alone from Libya of all places which have/had minimal ties to Pakistan historically and currently. What's his username? I would be very happy to meet him and introduce him to the gang here and ask a few questions in regards to Libya other than what I can read on the internet and see in Libyan newspapers.

Visit the Arab section of the forum if you want to learn more about Libya. I think we have a thread about their army but it has not been active for a very, very long time. I covered Libya in this thread too.

The Arabian Peninsula and Arab world in photos

Al-Assad in action. Yet pro-Assad members here dare to cry about the war crimes of ISIS while ignoring Al-Assad's numerous war crimes which is just another side of the same coin. They have no moral ground to stand on.

In other news;

ISIS destroys mausoleums in Syria’s Palmyra

The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) destroyed two ancient Muslim mausoleums in the historic Syrian city of Palmyra. (File photo: AFP)​

By Staff writer | Al Arabiya News
Tuesday, 23 June 2015

The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) destroyed two ancient Muslim mausoleums in the historic Syrian city of Palmyra, the country's antiquities director said Tuesday, according to Agence France-Presse.

Maamoun Abdulkarim said ISIS militants blew up the tombs of Mohammed bin Ali, a descendant of the Prophet Mohammed's cousin, and Nizar Abu Bahaaeddine, a religious figure from Palmyra, three days ago.

Bin Ali's burial place is located in a mountainous region four kilometers (almost three miles) north of Palmyra, in central Syria.

Abu Bahaaeddine's tomb, nestled in a leafy oasis about 500 metres (yards) from Palmyra's ancient ruins, is said to be more than five centuries old.

“They consider these Islamic mausoleums to be against their beliefs, and they ban all visits to these sites,” Abulkarim said.

Ten days ago, fighters from the extremist group also destroyed a number of tombstones at a cemetery for Palmyra residents, Abulkarim told AFP.

“All tombs with marble designs were destroyed. For them, graves should not be visible,” he said.

ISIS has destroyed at least 50 mausoleums dating between 100-200 years old in the regions under its control in north and east Syria, the antiquities director said.

Meanwhile photos published by ISIS depicted two armed men carrying canisters, apparently filled with explosives, walking up the rocky hill to the site.

The extremist group captured Palmyra, a renowned UNESCO World Heritage site, from pro-government forces on May 21.

At the weekend, ISIS fighters mined the city's ancient site, renewing fears that they would demolish the famed ruins as they have other historic sites in Iraq.

Syria's army has advanced in recent days west of the city, near key oil and gas fields.

[With AFP]

Last Update: Tuesday, 23 June 2015 KSA 17:36 - GMT 14:36

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/Ne...s-Islamic-mausoleums-in-Syria-s-Palmyra-.html

Pure parasites.

There is a solution though.

See here:

Ancient structures rebuilt using 3D-printed bricks - tech - 14 February 2014 - New Scientist

 

[Dr.Thrax]

So? Syrian army is 200,000. Insurgents is only 30,000. WE are the majority. YOU are the minority. The majority always wins tee hee hee ta haa haa

First of all, those figures are way off. SAA is 150,000, a lot of whom are now draftees. Rebels are also ~150,000, and 10,000 Nusra on top of that. Second of all, if you want it your way, 30,000 self-trained insurgents are beating glorious 200,000 SAA. Have it your way
And yes, the majority does always win. That's why Sunnis will win against Assad.

The total number of Alawites in Syria pre-revolution was <2 million, or 8.7% of Syria's population (not 12%). Sunnis made up around 70%-80%. Around 80,000 Alawites died. That means 4% of all Alawites are now 6-feet under (assuming there were 2 million, which is a generous estimate.)

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Another daily occurrence that the people of Syria have to live through.

Indiscriminate barrel bombings of civilian areas. This time in the city of Talbiseh.

Thousands upon thousands of such videos have been captured by civilian Syrians and the Syrian opposition across all of Syria showing indiscriminate barrel bombardments.

This definitely amount to war crimes.

Add the chemical attacks on Syrians, torture, mass-murderer, mass-executions and you got a "nice cocktail". The Al-Assad regime have nothing to envy ISIS or vice versa.

Yet we have people here who pretend to be morally correct that only ever cry about the war crimes of ISIS but ignore the even greater war crimes (in terms of casually) of the Al-Assad regime and its supporters.

It's clear that we (the supporters of the Syrian opposition (minus ISIS and Al-Nusra obviously which itself are anti-Syrian opposition (vast, vast majority of it at least), Syria and the Syrian people are on the right side and history will confirm this if there is any justice left in this world.

Al-Assad is the cousin of Saddam. Same Ba'ath trash. ISIS is an ancestor of the Ba'ath ideology. Even in Ramadan they cannot stop killing each other and killing people. What a sick mentality.