Syrian Civil War (Graphic Photos/Vid Not Allowed)

[Saif al-Arab]

ISIS would not exist in Iraq had it not been for the idiotic US administration that criminalized all Iraqi public workers (almost) which was a idiotic move. Overnight 2 million or so people lost their jobs and livelihood. Later the fools incorporated the most radical ones in Camp Bucca in open prisons. ISIS was created there and later former Saddam Hussein officers joined ISIS. As I wrote ISIS is just the most extreme Sunni Arab organization post 2003. What did the incompetent Al-Maliki regime (a disgrace to the Bani Malik tribe) do the day after US left Iraq in December 2011? They freed all the prisoners.

After that Al-Maliki started a crusade against the Sunni Arab community, their politicians, murdered peaceful protestors, jailed Sunnis in the thousands, tortured them to death, violated the honor of women etc. The regime was asking for it.

The Iraqi regime was still paying public workers based in Mosul not long ago and ISIS use extortion on all business in Northern Iraq so the Iraqi regime was paying ISIS directly.

The leadership are not religious as numerous documents and persons that know the leaders have testified.

I wrote about this in this post.

IMO ISIS is simply the most extreme "Sunni" Arab opposition group against the changes in Iraq that have taken place since 2003.
The leaders of the ISIS are all hardly religious if you read about their life's from people who knew them/know them and they cleverly have understood that a religious cause is the most powerful propaganda tool in the ME and this way they have been able to attract 1000's of people from across the world of all ethnicities, colors, social backgrounds etc. to fight for their cause.

If they had kept their Ba'athism ideology they would only have been able to attract a few Arab nationalists and they all had to share the exact ideology of Ba'athism which is a quite unique ideology. Adhere to socialism too which is not a big thing in the Arab world anymore post the Soviet collapse.

In reality that small influential/leading minority of ISIS leaders (all former Ba'athist's almost) are just interested in regaining power in Iraq. Not only there but in nearby Syria (especially Eastern Syria as Iraqi Arab nationalist have always claimed it to belong to Iraq) and now elsewhere too.
Why stop in Western, Central and Northern Iraq? It was the same under Saddam who dreamt of becoming another Omar ibn Al-Khattab (ra) and rule the ME.

It all makes perfect sense. The common goal is power. Like with most things here in life.

Foreigners joining them do not even get a salary by ISIS, lol. Only food and accommodation while local Iraqis and Syrians are paid.

The foreign ISIS members are used as cannon fodder but the fools can't see it.

Those Ba'athi ISIS founding members/leaders are by no means stupid. It's actually hilarious what a few former Camp Bucca prisoners have created.

Alright, but they should be allowed to flee Lebanon. And if Hezbollah still does something stupid then rebels go into Lebanon. I think Shia's will end their adventure after fall of Assad regime. They would lose lots of morale. Problem is Iran will still have interest in igniting Saudi Arabia/Bahrain. If Shia's are still talking shit about how there will be 'revolution' in Saudi Arabia even after Assad regime fall then I'm afraid it will be time to start scaring them. And Arabs know well how to do that. Shia's need to get their priorities straight and stop believing in their delusional fantasies of Iranian hegemony over KSA. If their clerics don't stop with this sectarian bullshit I'm not sure what else we can do.

They cry victim but on daily basis are preaching that Saudi Arabia will fall under 'Ahl Al Bayt'(Iranian) control and that Sunni's are misguided, weak, servants of US/Israel. Their ambition of power is getting out of control.

The guilty ones should not be allowed scot free if you ask me but I have lost all patience. Only a harsh hand works in today's ME. I cannot ever trust our nominal enemies. But I am not a Syrian so I will let them decide what to do with the regime that has mass-murdered them, destroyed Syria etc. My prediction is that it won't be pretty for the males.

Bahrain is no problem. It's fully in control of the Bahraini government and there is also a US military base. KSA is next door. Nothing will happen there. Nor in KSA's Eastern Province.

The main "threats" are the Houthi's, Hezbollah, Shia militias in Iraq and the Al-Assad regime outside of the Mullah's of Iran of course.

Ordinary Shia Arabs = brothers.

Shia Arab Wilayat al-Faqih slaves = traitors.

No more explanation needed IMO.

 

[Saho]

What is the reason for the regime forces staying and been encircled in Qamashio or near Hasakah? It shows no importance for them there?

 

[Falcon29]

What is the reason for the regime forces staying in Qamashio or near Hasakah? It shows no importance for them there?

The map looks like bogus, it is showing too much desert land as 'presence'. When it's rather their presence in some cities. Wikipedia template shows real situation.

 

[Al-Kurdi]

What is the reason for the regime forces staying and been encircled in Qamashio or near Hasakah? It shows no importance for them there?

Because Assad still belives he can recapture Syria. It's the only reason I can think of. If he had a brain, he would withdraw them(they control the airport) and strengthen their positions where they are under threat from rebels or ISIS. When YPG captured Til Barak and Til Hamis, it gave assadists the opportunity to attack IS from their bases south of Qamishlo probably hoping to connect with their forces in Hasakah but YPG did not allow them to by quickly taking over the remaining IS held villages. But other than that, many of the Arab "locals" were given alot of land by Assad and his father during the arabization of Kurdish areas. They would rather be under Assad control than ISIS or Kurdish control simply put. The oil is also in Kurdish control, I used to read that they bought alot of wheat from the Kurdish farmers but I have no idea how they would transport that to their own held areas.

The map looks like bogus, it is showing too much desert land as 'presence'. When it's rather their presence in some cities. Wikipedia template shows real situation.

the date is from 20th may so it does not show that dawla took the last Assad held border with Iraq.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

What "Arabization" of Northern Syria? Dozens of famous Arab scientist, poets, jurists etc. were born in what is today Southern Turkey and Northern Syria. As early as 1250 years ago.

1.5 million Arabs live in Southern Turkey and have done that BEFORE the Turkic migrations to Anatolia in the 11th century.

Arabs in Turkey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Simply put Arabs lived there before the word "Kurd" was even invented and before that various fellow Semitic peoples. Same story in Northern Iraq. Even all the city names (ancient cities) are Semitic.

For God's sake even the most populous Kurdish city in Turkey is named after an Arab tribe (Diyarbakir). Many Kurds have Arab ancestry.

Most of the oil is in Eastern Syria and is controlled by ISIS. Plenty of farmlands in Northern (Arab Syria) and Western Syria (Arab Alawi) too and most importantly the entire coast of Syria which connects it to the remaining world.

Regions of Southern Syria around Daraa are also fertile as well as all cities and lands along the Euphrates river.

I don't accept such rewriting of history my Kurdish friend.

@Dr.Thrax

 

[SALMAN F]

What "Arabization" of Northern Syria? Dozens of famous Arab scientist, poets, jurists etc. were born in what is today Southern Turkey and Northern Syria. As early as 1250 years ago.

1.5 million Arabs live in Southern Turkey and have done that BEFORE the Turkic migrations to Anatolia in the 11th century.

Arabs in Turkey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Simply put Arabs lived there before the word "Kurd" was even invented and before that various fellow Semitic peoples. Same story in Northern Iraq. Even all the city names (ancient cities) are Semitic.

For God's sake even the most populous Kurdish city in Turkey is named after an Arab tribe (Diyarbakir). Many Kurds have Arab ancestry.

Most of the oil is in Eastern Syria and is controlled by ISIS. Plenty of farmlands in Northern (Arab Syria) and Western Syria (Arab Alawi) too and most importantly the entire coast of Syria which connects it to the remaining world.

Regions of Southern Syria around Daraa are also fertile as well as all cities and lands along the Euphrates river.

@Dr.Thrax

Because they twisted and fabricate history

They claim that these lands are kurdish and they were arabzied which is false claim

Its the other way around these lands mentioned in the books in yaqot al hamawi and in masoud and al tabari,inb kathir,and inb al athir

Their lies is the same lies of the so called arabs in iran

And the arabs in the gulf

They claim that the gulf is arab and iran changed it into persian while its the other way around
The same lie of iran persinize the gulf is the same lie of arabziation of northern Syria which is kurdification
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu%27jam_al-[url="http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahnameh"]Shahnameh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/URL]

Before they massacred the Assyrians and stole their lands when you tell them this Assyrian land they tell you where are the Assyrians after they massacred them

Today they do the same to the Syriacs so when you tell them this is Syriac lands they will tell you where are the Syriacs if that is their lands of course after force them to leave and steal their land

 

[Al-Kurdi]

What "Arabization" of Northern Syria? Dozens of famous Arab scientist, poets, jurists etc. were born in what is today Southern Turkey and Northern Syria. As early as 1250 years ago.

1.5 million Arabs live in Southern Turkey and have done that BEFORE the Turkic migrations to Anatolia in the 11th century.

Arabs in Turkey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Simply put Arabs lived there before the word "Kurd" was even invented and before that various fellow Semitic peoples. Same story in Northern Iraq. Even all the city names (ancient cities) are Semitic.

For God's sake even the most populous Kurdish city in Turkey is named after an Arab tribe (Diyarbakir). Many Kurds have Arab ancestry.

Most of the oil is in Eastern Syria and is controlled by ISIS. Plenty of farmlands in Northern (Arab Syria) and Western Syria (Arab Alawi) too and most importantly the entire coast of Syria which connects it to the remaining world.

Regions of Southern Syria around Daraa are also fertile as well as all cities and lands along the Euphrates river.

@Dr.Thrax

"On 23 August 1962, the government conducted a special population census only for the province of Jazira, which was predominantly Kurdish. As a result, around 120,000 Kurds in Jazira (20% of Syrian Kurds) were stripped of their Syrian citizenship. In fact, the inhabitants had Syrian identity cards and were told to hand them over to the administration for renewal. However, many of those Kurds who submitted their cards received nothing in return. Many were arbitrarily categorized as ajanib ('aliens'), while others who did not participate in the census were categorised as maktumin ('unregistered'), an even lower status than the ajanib; for all intents and purposes, these unregistered Kurds did not exist in the eyes of the state. They could not get jobs, become educated, own property, participate in politics, or even get married. In some cases, classifications varied even within Kurdish families: parents had citizenship but not their children, a child could be a citizen but nor his or her brothers and sisters. Those Kurds who lost their citizenship were often dispossessed of their lands, which were given by the state to Arab settlers.[33] A media campaign was launched against the Kurds with slogans such as Save Arabism in Jazira! and Fight the Kurdish Menace!.[34]

These policies in the Jazira region coincided with the beginning of Barzani's uprising in Iraqi Kurdistan and discovery of oilfields in the Kurdish inhabited areas of Syria. In June 1963, Syria took part in the Iraqi military campaign against the Kurds by providing aircraft, armoured vehicles and a force of 6,000 soldiers. Syrian troops crossed the Iraqi border and moved into Kurdish town of Zakho in pursuit of Barzani's fighters[35]"

"Arab cordon[edit]
In 1965, the Syrian government decided to create an Arab cordon (Hizam Arabi) in the Jazira region along the Turkish border. The cordon was 300 kilometers long and 10-15 kilometers wide, stretched from the Iraqi border in the east to Ras Al-Ain in the west. The implementation of the Arab cordon plan began in 1973 and Bedouin Arabs were brought in and resettled in Kurdish areas. The toponymy of the area such as village names were Arabized. According to the original plan, some 140,000 Kurds had to be deported to the southern desert near Al-Raad. Although Kurdish farmers were dispossessed of their lands, they refused to move and give up their houses. Among these Kurdish villagers, those who were designated as alien are not allowed to own property, to repair a crumbling house or to build a new one.[36]"


Having an Arab name does not make you Arab. Al-jazira was an ethnic Kurd not Arab to set an example.

Mount Judi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The relation of the names Qardu and Judi is unclear. The origin of Judi is less clear. It is usually interpreted as a corrupted version of the same name, via al-gurdi (Reynolds 2004). The proposal that the two names are ultimately the same was first advanced by the English Orientalist George Sale in his translation of the Qur'an published in 1734. Sale's footnote reads:
This mountain [al-Judi] is one of those that divide Armenia on the south, from Mesopotamia, and that part of Assyria which is inhabited by the Curds, from whom the mountains took the name Cardu, or Gardu, by the Greeks turned into Gordyae, and other names. ... Mount Al-Judi (which seems to be a corruption, though it be constantly so written by the Arabs, for Jordi, or Giordi) is also called Thamanin ..., probably from a town at the foot of it.

The Syrians of the east Tigris had a legend of the ark resting on the Djûdi mountain in the land of Corduene (Kard, Korchayk, Carduchoi). This legend may in origin have been independent of the Genesis account of Noah's flood, rooted in the more general Near Eastern flood legends, but following Christianization of the Syrians, from about the 2nd century AD, it became associated with the Mountains of Ararat where Noah landed according to Genesis, and from Syria also this legend also spread to the Armenians. The Armenians did not traditionally associate Noah's landing site with Mount Ararat, known natively as Masis, but until the 11th century continued to associate Noah's ark with Mount Judi.[2]

Corduene - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The name Kurd predates the arrival of Iranic tribes such as the Medes.

Arabs did not live there before the name "Kurd" came into existence. Ethnic Arabs were living in the Arabian peninsula.

As do many Arabs have Kurdish ancestry, Al-Barazi, Al-Kurdi and several other family names. Just look at the Druze leader Jumblatt.

Kurds do not call Diyarbakir for Diyarbakir but for Amed.

"Following the Arab conquests in the seventh century, the Arab Bakr tribe occupied this region,[4] which became known as the Diyar Bakr ("landholdings of the Bakr tribe", in Arabic: ديار بكر Diyar Bakr).[5][6] In 1937, Atatürk visited Diyarbekir and, after expressing uncertainty on the exact etymology of the city, ordered that it be renamed "Diyarbakır", which means "land of copper" in Turkish after the abundant resources of copper around the city.[7]"

Just how Arabs settled in Kurdistan(Diyarbakir), Kurds settled in Arab land(Hisn Al Akrad), Jabal Kurd etc

Dude, why did an discussion about Assad become an ethnic Kurd-Arab problem, about who got oil and who has fertile land, jeez. You have some issues.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Because they twisted and fabricate history

They claim that these lands are kurdish and they were arabzied which is false claim

Its the other way around these lands mentioned in the books in yaqot al hamawi and in masoud and al tabari,inb kathir,and inb al athir

Their lies is the same lies of the so called arabs in iran

And the arabs in the gulf

They claim that the gulf is arab and iran changed it into persian while its the other way around
The same lie of iran persinize the gulf is the same lie of arabziation of northern Syria which is kurdification
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu%27jam_al-Shahnameh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Before they massacred the Assyrians and stole their lands when you tell them this Assyrian land they tell you where are the Assyrians after they massacred them

Today they do the same to the Syriacs so when you tell them this is Syriac lands they will tell you where are the Syriacs if that is their lands of course after force them to leave and steal their land

I agree regarding the Kurds.

Regarding the Iranian Arabs then they were indeed not natives but neither were the Persians. The Persians claim to descend from the steppes of Central Asia (Andronovo). The natives of that region of Iran were Elamite people (nothing to do with Iranian peoples) and they were neighbors of Semitic people and heavily influenced by them. They undoubtedly had more to do with neighboring Semites than Iranian tribes (nomads back then) that had not even settled in the ME yet. Most Iranians of Southern Iran and Western Iran are mixtures of Elamites, Semites and Iranian tribes. Genetics proof that.

Regarding this idiotic name of the Gulf (could care less as Arabs have dozens of waters, even whole seas, rivers, straits etc. named after them from Morocco to Oman) then Arabs have indeed lived longer along the Gulf than Persians. Also most of the Gulf is inhabited by Arabs. Even many people along the Gulf in Iran are Arabs.

Anyway in reality that Gulf should be called the Gulf of Sumer or Gulf of Dilmun. The first known civilizations along the Gulf until date.

It's Really the Sumerian Gulf - NYTimes.com

Dilmun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sumer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Assyrians and Syriacs hate the Kurds more than anybody else. With good reason. Anyway I have personally nothing against the Kurds as long as they do not try to rewrite history or steal ancient Arab/Semitic lands in Syria and Iraq.

@SALMAN AL-FARSI

 

[Al-Kurdi]

I agree regarding the Kurds.

Regarding the Iranian Arabs then they were indeed not natives but neither were the Persians. The Persians claim to descend from the steppes of Central Asia (Andronovo). The natives of that region of Iran were Elamite people (nothing to do with Iranian peoples) and they were neighbors of Semitic people and heavily influenced by them. They undoubtedly had more to do with neighboring Semites than Iranian tribes (nomads back then) that had not even settled in the ME yet. Most Iranians of Southern Iran and Western Iran are mixtures of Elamites, Semites and Iranian tribes. Genetics proof that.

Regarding this idiotic name of the Gulf (could care less as Arabs have dozens of waters, even whole seas, rivers, straits etc. named after them from Morocco to Oman) then Arabs have indeed lived longer along the Gulf than Persians. Also most of the Gulf is inhabited by Arabs. Even many people along the Gulf in Iran are Arabs.

Anyway in reality that Gulf should be called the Gulf of Sumer or Gulf of Dilmun. The first known civilizations along the Gulf until date.

It's Really the Sumerian Gulf - NYTimes.com

Dilmun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sumer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Assyrians and Syriacs hate the Kurds more than anybody else. With good reason. Anyway I have personally nothing against the Kurds as long as they do not try to rewrite history or steal ancient Arab/Semitic lands in Syria and Iraq.

@SALMAN AL-FARSI

The main difference between Kurds and Persians is that our iranic ancestors mixed with the native Hurrian groups living there meanwhile Persians with the elamites.

 

[Hindustani78]

Reuters / Thursday, May 21, 2015
A Free Syrian Army fighter fires a weapon inside a damaged building during clashes with forces loyal to Syria's President Bashar al-Assad at the frontline in Handarat area, north of Aleppo May 21, 2015. REUTERS/Hosam Katan

 

[Dr.Thrax]

Reuters / Thursday, May 21, 2015
A Free Syrian Army fighter fires a weapon inside a damaged building during clashes with forces loyal to Syria's President Bashar al-Assad at the frontline in Handarat area, north of Aleppo May 21, 2015. REUTERS/Hosam Katan

Looks like a browning .303, I would say 50 cal but the barrel doesn't look like it, and IIRC only the .303 uses a tripod that goes up that high.

Anyways, SAA did NOT break siege on hospital. SAA in hospital have evacuated completely. Most of the dead bodies around the hospital are SAA bodies, not rebels' bodies as Assadists like @Serpentine would like to claim. Look at Hadi Abdallah's videos on YouTube and you'll see what I mean. A lot of the SAA were either killed or captured in their escape. Dozens escaped, but again most died or were captured.
And Serpentine, it DOES make sense that Assad would let ISIS in the Desert. Considering they've co-operated before with oil and electricity deals, it's not surprise that they will co-operate now.

 

[500]

What is the reason for the regime forces staying and been encircled in Qamashio or near Hasakah? It shows no importance for them there?

They can put flags there on empty hills and claim victory on TV.

 

[C130]

man just got done watching this ISIS propaganda , shakes my head. total slaughter. basically a turkey shoot.

ISIS firing on retreating SAA fighters. they must of been about 50 meters to 75 meters apart from one another, ISIS just firing on them with glee...almost all of the SAA soldiers don't even bother to shot back it's like they abandoned their weapons and ammo.
but the real sad thing is ISIS bad aim literally not dropping anyone in what is shown in the video and they are firing within 100 meters with AKs and PKMs but mostly hitting empty space and ground....

more retreating SAA getting fired at. most of them are just walking like they are in another world. when you can clearly see dust poofs from rounds hitting the ground all around them . I can only imagine the terror they must be feeling.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

man just got done watching this ISIS propaganda , shakes my head. total slaughter. basically a turkey shoot.

ISIS firing on retreating SAA fighters. they must of been about 50 meters to 75 meters apart from one another, ISIS just firing on them with glee...almost all of the SAA soldiers don't even bother to shot back it's like they abandoned their weapons and ammo.
but the real sad thing is ISIS bad aim literally not dropping anyone in what is shown in the video and they are firing within 100 meters with AKs and PKMs but hitting air and ground....

more retreating SAA getting fired at. most of them are just walking like they are in another world. when you can clearly see dust poofs from rounds hitting the ground all around them . I can only imagine the terror they must be feeling.

Yes, "poor" Al-Assad soldiers. Now some of them will never mass-murderer more Syrians, drop more barrel bombs, torture more people to death etc.

In fact both the Al-Assad regime and ISIS should finish themselves off in such areas of Syria where there are no civilians instead of dropping barrel bombs/bombing Syrians.

Good riddance.

 

[JUBA]

man just got done watching this ISIS propaganda , shakes my head. total slaughter. basically a turkey shoot.

ISIS firing on retreating SAA fighters. they must of been about 50 meters to 75 meters apart from one another, ISIS just firing on them with glee...almost all of the SAA soldiers don't even bother to shot back it's like they abandoned their weapons and ammo.
but the real sad thing is ISIS bad aim literally not dropping anyone in what is shown in the video and they are firing within 100 meters with AKs and PKMs but hitting air and ground.

No way they're 100 meters away, looks like 600 to 700 meters.