Syrian Army releases official statement declaring Manbij under state control

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SAA is in Arima since 2017 .. PKK/YPG terrorists called helping from ASSAD against Turkish Army

SAA can not enter Manbij
Turkish Army and FSA blocked Manbij , and weak SAA can not save PKK/YPG terrorists from the Turkish Armed Forces


We are coming

 

[Stryker1982]

just attack and kick them out, why is the turkish army wasting time?

Cause the turks don't want to attack the Syrian Army......

 

[Zhukov]

Kurds saw what happened in Afrin. Handing the Lands over to Damascus is their only option to safety else Turkey will crush them.
This is what happens when you put all your marbles in wrong baskets. Kurds have made themselves enemies to all Regional stake holders Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran while sucking up to USA, France and Israel for salvation.
Damascus should be very careful to trust them after what they did in Arab Dominated areas of Eastern Euphrates Taking advantage of Syrian Army operations against ISIS in DeirAlzur City and Occupying all Syrian Oilfield in the region with the Help of USA a few years back.
Syria is moving to right direction. Normalizing its Relations with Arab Countries like Jordan and GCC, Already in Alliance with Russia Iraq and Iran. They have to work out something with Turkey. If Syrian and Turkey are aligned then this war will end eventually

SAA is in Arima since 2017 .. PKK/YPG terrorists called helping from ASSAD against Turkish Army

SAA can not enter Manbij
Turkish Army and FSA blocked Manbij , and weak SAA can not save PKK/YPG terrorists from the Turkish Armed Forces

Why would Syrian Army want to save YPD/PKK when they are claiming Syrian lands for themselves on behest of your NATO ALLY USA grabbing Sovereign Syrian Territory for their own. All Damascus wants is to unify Syrian Territory under its rule.
By they Way Turkey never claims any right on any Syrian Territory. That's what your President says at least. Syrian Army would be a fool to side with Kurds against Turkey as they did in the era of Soviet Union and Cold war. Turkey and Damascus have Common enemy in the Form of PKK/PYD/YPG and USA supports this common enemy.For Turkey Force YOUR NATO ALLIES to stop supporting PKK instead of provoking Weak and Wartorn Syrian Army who are desperately fighting to hold their country together, they are no match for you neither is it fair. And for Syrian Army don't try Land Grabbing Traitors YPG

 

[Tokhme khar]

Russia, China and Iran have warned Turkey to not take a foolish step. Let the Syrian army disarm and sort out these U.S. backed kurdish terrorists. Let Syrians rule Syrians.

 

[padamchen]

The way I see it, the YPG has just had it's de facto control officially blessed and ratified.

The Turks I'm happy to note have been wedged out.

Essentially we are going to now have a KRG in Syria.

Eventually with soft borders.

At the very least.

Ushta te.

Cheers, Doc

 

[vizier]

It should be kept in mind that sdf can be planned by usa to initiate a conflict between our countries unless disarmement and giving full control to Syrian govt without a dual control in those regions also maybe expelling those directly connected to pkk. If the aims are accomplished without risking any soldiers lives then it will be a major accomplishment for Turkey as well.

yes putin might be making agreements with usa behind the scenes and his moves may seem to have an inclination towards cutting back Iran's influence in Syria and towards installing a more friendly government with israel there at the end but for example sdf saying to Syria that Usa has betrayed us and Russia betrays you and lets come and rule together without disarming and giving full control should not give sdf any credibility or trustability for Syria. It seems more to be part of usa plan of initiating conflict as until the recent u turn of trump sdf position was well known against Syria. Russia is not only Putin and Russian initiative as a whole should not be disregarded and its mediation can be used objectively. Its decisions can be rejected by Syrian govt by giving objective reasons but total disregard closing doors would be used by israel-Usa again to isolate Syria more.

 

[Tokhme khar]

Lets hope erdogan doesn't fall in this trap. It would be a ridiculous situation where the Kurds launch another 100 year guerilla war using hit and run, with the US, Israeli's and the EU backing them, while the Iranians, Turks and the Arab's pick up the pieces and the dead bodies. He's been fooled once by Obama, I'd be damned if he gets fooled again.

The way I see it, the YPG has just had it's de facto control officially blessed and ratified.

The Turks I'm happy to note have been wedged out.

Essentially we are going to now have a KRG in Syria.

Eventually with soft borders.

At the very least.

Ushta te.

Cheers, Doc

 

[padamchen]

Lets hope erdogan doesn't fall in this trap. It would be a ridiculous situation where the Kurds launch another 100 year guerilla war using hit and run, with the US, Israeli's and the EU backing them, while the Iranians, Turks and the Arab's pick up the pieces and the dead bodies. He's been fooled once by Obama, I'd be damned if he gets fooled again.

@Cthulhu and @Persian Gulf 1906 have educated me a lot.

BUT

I still do not understand why would you as a Irani support Erdogan over Assad backed autonomous Kurdish region in Syria.

Are you not closer racially to the Kurds.

And even as Shias to the Alewites?

Are you afraid you won't be able to control the increasingly independent Kurds?

Cheers, Doc

 

[Tokhme khar]

Assad does not back these kurds. The US and EU do. Let's at least clear that up.

An independent Kurdistan was quashed by Iran last year when we took Kirkuk from Erbil, and handed it over to the Iraqi gubment. In case you didn't know.

@Cthulhu and @Persian Gulf 1906 have educated me a lot.

BUT

I still do not understand why would you as a Irani support Erdogan over Assad backed autonomous Kurdish region in Syria.

Are you not closer racially to the Kurds.

And even as Shias to the Alewites?

Are you afraid you won't be able to control the increasingly independent Kurds?

Cheers, Doc

 

[padamchen]

Assad does not back these kurds. The US and EU do. Let's at least clear that up.

An independent Kurdistan was quashed by Iran last year when we took Kirkuk from Erbil, and handed it over to the Iraqi gubment. In case you didn't know.

Could you give this a quick read and tell me where I'm going wrong then?

Cheers, Doc

 

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Russia, China and Iran have warned Turkey to not take a foolish step. Let the Syrian army disarm and sort out these U.S. backed kurdish terrorists. Let Syrians rule Syrians.

Turkey doesnt give any shit to Russia, China and Iran
Turkey also doesnt give any shit to the US,The UK,France,Israel,S.Arabia,Uae

Turkish Armed Forces never will allow Pkk/Ypg terror coridor in N.Syria against Turkey
Its time to clean N.Syria from Pkk/Ypg terrorists and over 3,5 million of Syrian refugees in Turkey will return to their lands and will select the government in a real election

3,5 million of Syrian refugees in Turkey and over 5 million Syrians in Carablus,Al Bab , Afrin , Idlib and all N.Syria support Turkey for peace and justice in Syria


Russia, China and Iran also the US,The UK,France,Israel,S.Arabia,Uae ( who killed over 600.000 innocent Syrians ) have no right over Syria

Why would Syrian Army want to save YPD/PKK when they are claiming Syrian lands for themselves on behest of your NATO ALLY USA grabbing Sovereign Syrian Territory for their own. All Damascus wants is to unify Syrian Territory under its rule

ASSAD is puppet .... there is a risk that Russia and the US agreed to create autonomous of Pkk/Ypg region in N.Syria similar to autonomous region officially called the Kurdistan Region of Iraq by the Iraqi constitution

and Russia ,S.Arabia,Uae,Israel support this plan .... Iran is bitch country never trust in Iran , Iran control and support Pkk against Turkey ( Iran rules top 5 Pkk leaders in Iraq )

and puppet Assad Regime and Intelligence always supported Pkk terrorists against Turkey since 1990s
even the founder of Pkk terror organization OCALAN lived in Damascus until 1999 and 1/3 of Pkk terrorists are Syrians


the US and terrorist Kurds are not stupid to give Pkk/Ypg held territory to Assad ,Iran and Russia without any guarantee for autonomous of Pkk/Ypg region in N.Syria ( cowardly Assad,Iran and Russia never can fight the US ,,,, but Turkey can do it and Turkey forced the US to leave Syria because of the Turkish Armed forces are coming to burn all Pkk/Ypg terrorists )

Turkey never will allow the US,The UK,France,Israel,S.Arabia,Uaae,Assad Regime,Iran to start a war in Turkish soil over Pkk/Ypg terrorists ,,,,,,, so We will destroy the threat in Syria soil and nobody can stop us

 

[Tokhme khar]

Iran control the PKK against Turkey?

Lol

OK buddy, you can believe that. And let me ask you this, what in the hell would Iran gain by doing that? Alienate Iraq? Alienate Turkey? Alienate Syria? And fukk up its own kordistan too? Do the sawdi and US's bidding in the region?

Now why the hell would we do something like this?

 

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Iran control the PKK against Turkey?

Lol

OK buddy you can believe that. And let me ask you this, what in the hell would Iran gain by doing that? Alienate Iraq? Alienate Turkey? Alienate Syria? And fukk up its own kordistan too? Do the sawdi and US's bidding in the region?

Now why the hell would we do something like this?

Yes Iran control and support Pkk also Assad Regime always supported Pkk terrorrism to destabilize Turkey
even Iran and Assad regime allowed YPG to invade 30% of Syrian territory ... Assad Regime and YPG agreed not to fight each others since 2013 ..... also Russia wants to rule YPG
but YPG prefered the US instead of Iran and Assad regime and Russia

now PKK/YPG Terrorists called helping from Assad Regime against Turkish Army
even Iran always tried to block Turkish military operations in Al Bab , Afrin and Idlib

Russia ,Iran and Assad regime never attacked PKK/YPG Terrorists .. even in Afrin why ?

because of Russia and the US agreed to create autonomous of Pkk/Ypg region in N.Syria similar to autonomous region officially called the Kurdistan Region of Iraq by the Iraqi constitution

and Iran , Assad regime very well knows about it Russia never will fight the US,the UK,France,Israel to protect Syria's territorial integrity and without Russia , puppet Assad and Iran are nothing

also S.Arabia and Uae forced Assad Regime to accept autonomous of Pkk/Ypg region in N.Syria
and Arab league will support ASSAD ( who is enemy to Turkey ) to rule Syria and to join to Arab league again


TURKS very well knows about whats going on Syria and never trust in Iran Assad Regime , Russia and the US

 

[Zhukov]

Turkey doesnt give any shit to Russia, China and Iran
Turkey also doesnt give any shit to the US,The UK,France,Israel,S.Arabia,Uae

Turkish Armed Forces never will allow Pkk/Ypg terror coridor in N.Syria against Turkey
Its time to clean N.Syria from Pkk/Ypg terrorists and over 3,5 million of Syrian refugees in Turkey will return to their lands and will select the government in a real election

3,5 million of Syrian refugees in Turkey and over 5 million Syrians in Carablus,Al Bab , Afrin , Idlib and all N.Syria support Turkey for peace and justice in Syria


Russia, China and Iran also the US,The UK,France,Israel,S.Arabia,Uae ( who killed over 600.000 innocent Syrians ) have no right over Syria






ASSAD is puppet .... there is a risk that Russia and the US agreed to create autonomous of Pkk/Ypg region in N.Syria similar to autonomous region officially called the Kurdistan Region of Iraq by the Iraqi constitution

and Russia ,S.Arabia,Uae,Israel support this plan .... Iran is bitch country never trust in Iran , Iran control and support Pkk against Turkey ( Iran rules top 5 Pkk leaders in Iraq )

and puppet Assad Regime and Intelligence always supported Pkk terrorists against Turkey since 1990s
even the founder of Pkk terror organization OCALAN lived in Damascus until 1999 and 1/3 of Pkk terrorists are Syrians


the US and terrorist Kurds are not stupid to give Pkk/Ypg held territory to Assad ,Iran and Russia without any guarantee for autonomous of Pkk/Ypg region in N.Syria ( cowardly Assad,Iran and Russia never can fight the US ,,,, but Turkey can do it and Turkey forced the US to leave Syria because of the Turkish Armed forces are coming to burn all Pkk/Ypg terrorists )

Turkey never will allow the US,The UK,France,Israel,S.Arabia,Uaae,Assad Regime,Iran to start a war in Turkish soil over Pkk/Ypg terrorists ,,,,,,, so We will destroy the threat in Syria soil and nobody can stop us

Your Love for Your homeland Turkey is commendable my Friend and I Respect that. But Don't paint everything into Black and white to carve out a simple one liner narrative of "Every one against Turkey and we will Triumph" Sort.

First the Support of Kurds by Hafiz Ul Assad in 80s and 90s was because of Cold war. Assad was closer to Soviet Union and Kurds were Communists. Turkey was NATO member like Literally Closest to USA as one can imagine.
And whole world was locked in cold war between US and SOVIET Spheres. No point beating decade old the dead horses of Cold War. Turkey came on top as stronger and Syria became weak whats done is done.

Second. There is no EVERYONE IS UNITED thing. Russia and USA have its own interests just as Turkey. Russia is decades old ally to Syria and the only Reason Bashar is even alive and Damascus stands.

Third. Major population of Syria still lives inside Government held territories not in AFrin Jarablus and Albab

Fourth. Iran can never support YPG/PKK as they have similar Kurdish Problem as you have in the North. REcently Kurds Attacked On Irani Military March and Assasinated many Irani Soldiers

And Trust me. Never put forth CRUELTY and MORALS in front of you when you are analyzing a geopolitical situation. Wars and Specially Civil Wars are always bloody and God protect us all from Wars and Protect our Civilians and Soldiers Alike.When war breaks out, a head of state or government cannot monitor Hundreds of Thousands of Soldiers and militias engaged in massive fronts.
Don't decide the right side by whats happening on the battle field. Decide by who is fighting for what purpose.

You are a Turk, You love your homeland and of course i feel same for Pakistan and my Army and our geopolitical conflicts.
But as a neutral prospective. I believe Turkey is acting only to address Kurdish insurgency problem and stop another Kurdish state at its border and bring stability at its borders. IT acts where it can and protests where it cant (Of course every army in the world have certain limitations) But everyone against Turkey narrative is not correct as all the countries you mentioned above
Turkey is in NATO and Decades Old Ally to USA Having Deep rooted Defense Ties with USA not Russia.
Turkey have recognized Israel not Syria.
Turkey have working Relations with GCC & Saudi Arabia While Iran is in Cold war with them.

 

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First the Support of Kurds by Hafiz Ul Assad in 80s and 90s was because of Cold war. Assad was closer to Soviet Union and Kurds were Communists. Turkey was NATO member like Literally Closest to USA as one can imagine.

Turkey is in NATO and Decades Old Ally to USA Having Deep rooted Defense Ties with USA not Russia.
Turkey have recognized Israel not Syria.
Turkey have working Relations with GCC & Saudi Arabia While Iran is in Cold war with them.

stop telling tales to the TURKS , TURKS are not stupid ..... Syrian Regime and Iran always supported Pkk terrorrism even after the end of cold war to destabilize Turkey

Iran and Assad regime never attacked PKK/YPG Terrorists .. even in Afrin why ? there is no the US forces in AFRIN


the US-The UK and Israel created Kurdistan led by BARZANI in Iraq after invasion of Iraq 1991
and kicked Iran-Syria backed Pkk led by OCALAN (CIA and MOSSAD supported Turkey to catch the founder of Pkk OCALAN in 1999 --- Turkish Armed Forces threatened Syrian Regime to kick OCALAN out of Damascus )

now the US-The UK and Israel support BARZANI in Iraq and YPG in Syria and the US will kill Iran backed top 3 Pkk leaders in Iraq


-- since 1991 the US is not ally to Turkey ( only on paper )
-- The US destroyed SADDAM and OBAMA gave Iraq to Iran
-- The UK created ASSAD Regime in Syria , and the UK stopped the US and NATO when OBAMA decided to kick ASSAD regime after using chemical weapons against civilians by ASSAD forces
-- Israel is so happy with ASSAD Regime instead of Turkey backed sunni muslim government in Syria ( the UK-Israel-PENTAGON never tried to destroy ASSAD Regime ,,, they started civil war in Syria to create YPG terror coridor )
-- and now S.Arabia and Uae are one of the biggest enemies to Turkey