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Leaflets dropped over Syria's Idlib call for reconciliation

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

BEIRUT — Aug 9, 2018, 2:42 PM ET


Syrian military helicopters on Thursday dropped leaflets over parts of the rebel-held northwestern province of Idlib, calling on residents to reconcile with the government as warplanes pounded the region, opposition activists said.

The message came as a top humanitarian adviser to the U.N. warned that "war cannot be allowed to go to Idlib."

Jan Egeland said the U.N. had appealed to Turkey to open its border to refugees from Idlib should the Syrian government decide to attack the province, now the last major bastion of the armed opposition in the country, and home to over one million internally displaced Syrians.

Humanitarian organizations have shared the GPS coordinates of 235 sites, including the locations of medical facilities and schools, with the Russian, Turkish and U.S. militaries, in the hopes that warring parties would avoid targeting them in the eventuality of a battle, said Egeland.

But the strategy of President Bashar Assad's forces has been to target precisely those institutions where medical professionals work and civilians shelter, according to rights groups that have been following the seven-year-long conflict.

Egeland said a push by the government would destroy the province and aggravate an already dire humanitarian situation marked by insufficient shelter, and substandard hygiene, water and medical distribution. Some 2.9 million people are now residing in the province, said Egeland.

"We must learn from eastern Ghouta, Aleppo, Homs, Raqqa, and elsewhere: It is no way to liberate an area by leveling everything to the ground," Egeland said, citing previous offensives by Assad's forces that crushed rebels and displaced millions of Syrians in major cities in the country.

The government's leaflets promised the war "is close to an end" and called for Idlib residents to join in reconciliation "as our people did in other parts of Syria," according to photos posted by the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights conflict monitor.

The leaflets signed by the Armed Forces Command had photos of Syria before and after the war with a caption that read: "This is how Syria was before terrorism."

Ibaa news agency, the media arm of al-Qaida-linked Levant Liberation Committee, said the leaflets were dropped over the towns of Taftanaz, Kfarya and Binnish adding the activists in the area poked fun at the leaflets.

Activists said even as helicopters dropped the leaflets, warplanes pounded several rebel-held areas elsewhere in Idlib, which has become home to tens of thousands of internally displaced people.

Idlib is the last major rebel-held region in Syria and there are concerns that a government offensive would displace hundreds of thousands of people inside the province bordering Turkey.

Ibaa said the leaflets were part of a "psychological war" by the government that has not been able to capture Idlib militarily.

In southern Syria, a woman who was among dozens of women and children kidnapped by the Islamic State group in the southern province of Sweida last month died while in captivity, activists said.

Some 30 women and children have been held since the July 25 attack by IS on villages in Sweida and a nearby village that left more than 200 people dead. Since then, negotiations have been ongoing to exchange the hostages for IS fighters.

Last week, IS killed one of the hostages, a 19-year-old boy, to pressure the government and local officials in the negotiations.

The Sweida 24 activist collective posted a photograph of the woman while in detention and another after her death. It said the photo of the woman was sent by IS saying it was a natural death due to "harsh health conditions."

Syria's civil war has cost the country $388 billion in economic damage, the U.N.'s Economic and Social Commission for Western Asia agency said in a new estimate published Thursday.

Monitoring groups say at least 400,000 people have been killed in Syria's civil war. More than 11 million others — or half of Syria's pre-war population — have been displaced from their homes, according to the U.N., including more than 5 million who have been made refugees abroad, since war broke out in 2011.

https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...ped-syrias-idlib-call-reconciliation-57120354


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Far from a fan of the Al-Assad regime (although I respect the genuine Syrian patriots among them and ordinary Syrian soldiers who do not commit crimes) but Syrian integrity as an Arab state should be the priority and preventing foreign opportunists from continuing to play their games (to the detriment of the Syrian state and people by large), should be supported in Idlib. There are 2 options. A divided Syria with numerous warlords and puppet regions controlled by foreign powers or 1 entity controlled/influenced by 1 foreign power (Russia). I know what I would prefer, especially since KSA-Russia ties have evolved positively in recent years and likely will continue to do so.
Especially when Russia has entered the scene and dominate/control Al-Assad many times more in comparison with the Farsi Mullah terrorists.

Since most Syrians (vast majority) are not Shia Twelvers Iran's Wilayat al-Faqih ideology and Shia traditions of worshipping clerics and giving them 1/5 of their money (khums) won't be accepted. Therefore Iran's "project" is doomed to fail in Syria.

In fact I am 100% sure that Al-Assad or Ba'athists won't accept pro-Farsi Mullah terrorists groups operating in Syria and will clamp down on them together with Russia. Seen traces of this already. Nor will the people.

Russia on the other hand stands for the opposite ideologically wise.

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Next up should be Eastern Syria and the northernmost parts of Syria.



 
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What surprises me is the amount of Syrians in the north that accept foreign troops to take over lands. Sometimes it seems like the national identity in some Arab countries has been weakened severely. This was far less likely in the 70s, 80s.
 
What surprises me is the amount of Syrians in the north that accept foreign troops to take over lands. Sometimes it seems like the national identity in some Arab countries has been weakened severely. This was far less likely in the 70s, 80s.
When your own govt butchers people, the national identity goes into sewer.
 
When your own govt butchers people, the national identity goes into sewer.

Hardly. Assad controls more than 80% of Syria's population and they are happy. People care about food on the table, not about democracy.
 
What surprises me is the amount of Syrians in the north that accept foreign troops to take over lands. Sometimes it seems like the national identity in some Arab countries has been weakened severely. This was far less likely in the 70s, 80s.

That is what happens when patriotism/nationalism is weakened, Mullahism infiltrates societies and Al-Jazeera becomes the main source of information. MB groups (Mullahism) and unofficial MB media (Al-Jazeera). Connect the dots between the Al-Thani regime and the populistic watermelon seller.

Anyway this would never have happened had the Al-Assad regime (which is trash) acted differently (as they should have) by making internal reforms rather than helping destroy the entire country in order to stay in power longer and distancing a large portion of otherwise patriotic Syrians. Which explains why large parts of the SAA, including senior officers, deflected in the first few years of the civil war.

Unfortunately the uprising was infiltrated by radicals (facilitated by Al-Assad himself who deliberately released them from Syrian jails) and as we know war tends to radicalize people to begin with.

This civil war was perfectly avoidable. Al-Assad has the biggest blame here and is of course not a long-term solution for Syria but it is better than Syria turning into a Somalia (divided in 4-5 parts with their own governments, militias, armies, loyalties to foreign powers etc) or Afghanistan.

The day that the opposition became infiltrated and dominated by Mullahism it was a question of not if but when failure would occur.

When your own govt butchers people, the national identity goes into sewer.

That is true. It has the opposite effect. Gives rise to fragmentation and nothing else and leads a country to the path of self-destruction.

Anyway the uprising was not just about economic struggles or the agricultural sector struggling but also 40 + years of frustrations under the incompetent rule of the Al-Assad regime.
 
Hardly. Assad controls more than 80% of Syria's population and they are happy. People care about food on the table, not about democracy.

No...
And every Arab uprising wasn't about food... none of them... Actually The extreme Majority of Uprising throughout History wasn't about food...
 
Anyway the uprising was not just about economic struggles or the agricultural sector struggling but also 40 + years of frustrations under the incompetent rule of the Al-Assad regime.

If revolution succeeded, Syria would have made peace with Israel and got 100 F-16 paid for by American tax payers. History didn't turn out that way in this universe. Only in parallel universes.
 
No...
And every Arab uprising wasn't about food... none of them... Actually The extreme Majority of Uprising throughout History wasn't about food...

Food or not, looks like the Idlib opposition will get trashed. Maybe we can send a few of our radical Hezbollahis to get them out of the country whilst helping Syria.
 
If revolution succeeded, Syria would have made peace with Israel and got 100 F-16 paid for by American tax payers. History didn't turn out that way in this universe. Only in parallel universes.

Occasional trolling is fun and a forum like PDF should not be taken too seriously but there are limits. Are you now trying to derail/troll in this thread as well Superboy?

I find your entire presence here on PDF strange. You claim to be interested in conflicts but you are changing opinions and alliances as others change underwear. In other words daily.

One can say that the revolution succeeded as Syria will never be the same. If the Al-Assad regime wants to survive for a few more years reforms and change are needed.

Syria will have to reach out to all the countries that were against its regime if it wants to be rebuilt because Russia cannot and will not do it (they care about the Latakia province mostly and access to a warm-water Mediterranean port in the East of the Mediterranean), the Mullahs are going bankrupt once again (so a 100 times lesser chance of that happening) while I doubt that China is very interested to invest big time in a state where 2 clashing regime parties (pro-Russia or pro-Mullah terrorist regime) are battling for power. Syria is not of strategic importance either when China has and will have an increasing presence in Egypt, GCC etc.

As things stand now Syria is more of a burden for everyone involved than something that can be gained from.

I don't see Syrian economy or society bouncing back within the next decade and that too if it remains relatively clam when it could easily become a hotspot for monthly/weekly terrorism incidents.

Food or not, looks like the Idlib opposition will get trashed. Maybe we can send a few of our radical Hezbollahis to get them out of the country whilst helping Syria.

That would be a perfect opportunity for cretins to kill each other off. Just like AQAP and Houthi infighting. Sit back and watch. Al-Assad did that often in Syria with great success. Mullahism is simply a too weak and divided ideology to have one united front. Just look at the likes of ISIS and Al-Qaeda. They can't even live in peace and are fighting/have fought against each other about who is the "most righteous" cretin. The Taliban baboons and ISIS cretins in Afghanistan are doing the same thing while we speak.:lol:
 
One can say that the revolution succeeded as Syria will never be the same. If the Al-Assad regime wants to survive for a few more years reforms and change are needed.

It's not Assad who is in control. It's Putin who is in control. Of course, if revolution made peace with Russia, Russia would have supported the revolution because they are friendly with Israel. Revolution declared war on Russia. That was the fatal mistake. The same mistake Napoleon made. The same mistake Hitler made. Assad would have been gone years ago if revolution did not declare war on Russia.
 
That would be a perfect opportunity for cretins to kill each other off. Just like AQAP and Houthi infighting. Sit back and watch. Al-Assad did that often in Syria with great success. Mullahism is simply a too weak and divided ideology to have one united front. Just look at the likes of ISIS and Al-Qaeda. They can't even live in peace and are fighting/have fought against each other about who is the "most righteous" cretin.:lol:

Saraya al Khorasani, the most Islamist group we have that is pro-Khamenei and adhers to Qom.

They even clashed with Sadr's group a few months ago; https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/s...Khorasani-Saraya-Al-Salam-militias-in-Baghdad

Send them there and everyone benefits
 
Food or not, looks like the Idlib opposition will get trashed. Maybe we can send a few of our radical Hezbollahis to get them out of the country whilst helping Syria.

Idlib future is linked to TR agenda on its southern border.
The Faith of Idlib is on TR ability to go with or against Regional powers... and Whatever she want or not to "be" a regional power... or a following one...

Therefore, let's wait TR decision before selling the Bear skin...
 
Idlib future is linked to TR agenda on its southern border.
The Faith of Idlib is on TR ability to go with or against Regional powers... and Whatever she want or not to "be" a regional power... or a following one...

Therefore, let's wait TR decision before selling the Bear skin...

Turkey is not the same level as Russia. Russia is a global level super power. Turkey is only a regional power. Russia can deploy its own military and crush Idlib within a month with 0 losses. Turkey won't fight Russia for Idlib.
 
Turkey is not the same level as Russia. Russia is a global level super power. Turkey is only a regional power. Russia can deploy its own military and crush Idlib within a month with 0 losses. Turkey won't fight Russia for Idlib.
Neither will RU...
 
Idlib future is linked to TR agenda on its southern border.
The Faith of Idlib is on TR ability to go with or against Regional powers... and Whatever she want or not to "be" a regional power... or a following one...

Therefore, let's wait TR decision before selling the Bear skin...

The question is will the local groups (doing all the fighting) on behalf of Turkey be able to count on Turkey when shit hits the fan this (relatively) deep into Syria when Turkish involvement (troops) has been relatively minimal outside of direct border towns such as Afrin but even there most of the fighting was done by FSA and other related groups?

We all remember the "Aleppo betrayal and fiasco" so if history is our witness the answer here is no.


If so, all of SDF/US controlled Eastern Syria will have free hands. Turkey's influence will remain confined to that tiny part of Syria seen on the second map in post 0 in this thread.

Also, realistically speaking (as long as Russia is involved and going nowhere and SAA having the momentum and power) Idlib will most likely be conquered and when shit hits the fan those "pro-Turkey" groups in Syria will easily fragment and some will defect to SAA or escape/run away as seen recently in Southern Syria.

The revolution was for the taking but the opportunity (for now) was wasted years ago. In fact in the first 2-3 years where those nations that most strongly supported the opposition are to blame for as they betrayed the opposition thinking that they could do as little as possible and get as little messy hands as possible. Turkey's policy in particular massively failed on this front and their burden is the greatest for those directly involved due to sharing a large border.

Similar to KSA in Yemen. When you neighbor a country directly you take most of the "negatives" of a conflict that you are a part of yourself. Case in point the Farsi Mullah's and their involvement in Yemen. They have little to loose as they don't border Yemen and don't host a single Yemeni refugee. Easy to smuggle weapons into the Houthi terrorist cult or some advisers.

So if you involve yourself and gamble you should go all in in such situations otherwise you will suffer the consequences. If KSA had acted earlier in Yemen and stopped tolerating the Houthi terrorist cult for this long, the current situation would not have occurred.
 
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