Syrian Airdefences shot down Turkish plane

[TheCommander]

There is confirmed that numerous CIA members in Turkey to decide which support opposite parties against Syria governmen and protesterst. Turkey dislike Bashar Assad due to the fact that they support PKK and Kurdish rebels.

It is natural allies between Turkey and Israel long times until they killed Turkish citizens via Flotilla incident. It is confident both these countries will be back normal again.

There is no doubt in my mind now that you know nothing about Turkiye. Let me give you some lessons kid.

Lesson 1: You are saying Turkiye dislikes Bashar al Assad because he supports the terrorist PKK. This is just showing your zero knowledge about Turkiye. Tukiye has joined opposition against Syrian regime because of her violence, cruelty to her citizens (He killed thousand innocent people including children, women). Before the uprising in Syria, the relations between Syria and Turkiye was almost perfect. Bashar Al Assad had expelled the PKK and did not allow them to use Syria to attack Turkiye. After Turkiye joined the opposition, Syria restarted supporting PKK in return the Turkiye support to oppositions in Syria.

Lesson 2: The relationship between Turkiye and Israel had started deteriorating before the flotilla incident. When Israel bombed Gaza after the meeting of Ehud Olmert and Tayyip Edogan, Erdogan stormed at Israel that he felt he was back-stubbed by Israel. After that one minute happened in Davos. The flotilla incident made it worse.

We were allied with Israel, that is correct but we used our influence on Israel to make piece with Palestine. PM Mesut Yilmaz had met with Yassar Arafat and one of the journalists asked that what he thinks about the relationship between Israel and Turkiye. Do you know what he said? He said that it is so important for us so that this relation may help us to make piece with Israel.

Before you blame us first study your lesson and then look at the efforts of other muslim countries and ours then compare them who is working hard to solve the problem regarding Palestine and who is helping Palestinian more, period.

 

[TurAr]

over 20,000 tanks russia has and if Turkey provoke, Russia will put 2000 on Turkey's border, with start bombing on their different cities, which will finally mean by rolling tanks to Istanbul, and hopefully Turkey will then fall in control of Iran. rest, even one missile will hit a prime target of rest of Gulf, these Arabs will have pi$$ed in their pants just after that. losing one aircraft isn't as bad humiliation as compare to being rolled by tanks, the tanks which may then walks till Saudi Arabia also. therefore, they would better forget the things as a bad dream and stop sending terrorists to Syria from now onward

Okay Ivan, calm down now

 

[TurAr]

I am disappointed Turkey didn't act during Flotilla case to protect citizens, I expect the same Turkey will NOT act against Syria.

Do not mix IHH with Turkish Armed Forces. That plane was representing whole of Turkey while IHH not.
So keep your expectancy, until...

Btw, no one is giving a damn about your disappointments while you're a disappointment for your country.

 

[explorer9]

Turkish politicians carry very mature head on their shoulders and certainly they will not take any decision in haste but I am sure of one thing that the repercussion of this incident will haunt the own future of Al-Assad and his inner coterie.

 

[Juice]

guys this looks too fishy to me.. I wonder if its really Syria or someone else who would love to see a fight between Turkey and Syria?

I mean come on

on one hand we have a "devious and evil" Asad killing his own people etc but barely able to contain the rebels who are being aided by the Arab and Americans to the hilt and then his regime is willing to risk an international retaliation?

I just ask myself who would benefit from this incident?

Rebels? yes
Americans? yes
anyone else that wants Asad removed? yes


Syria knows where it stands vs Turkish military might. and if its really doing the most obvious then its regime is only speeding up its demise

if the Turkish plane was really in the international airspace then I must say that Syria has some impressive long range SAMs and stupidity to ask for trouble
but if the Turkish and Syrian counts differ where the plane was really flying then I dont know how the things will proceed
the best way to minimize damage is safe return of the pilots to Turkey.

You used to have intelligent post, please tell me the "Zionist magicians did it" crowd haven't completely turned you. Did they brain wash Turkey into claiming a jew jet was theirs? Or did they hypnotise the Syrians into claiming a jew SAM was theirs? Get a grip.

 

[explorer9]

You used to have intelligent post, please tell me the "Zionist magicians did it" crowd haven't completely turned you. Did they brain wash Turkey into claiming a jew jet was theirs? Or did they hypnotise the Syrians into claiming a jew SAM was theirs? Get a grip.

Or may be a fellow Nuseyri of Al-Assad holding the trigger of SAM

 

[ovarel]

mate, Israel and Syria have been long enemies than Turkey allies with Israel during military cooperations.

Thats what im talking about. Why dont you let Israelis know these things? Most radical zionists are hailing Syria over this action.

Israel is currently occupying Syrian territory and there is no war between them which wouldnt be the case if Israel was invading Turkish territories. So yes,Syria is not a cowardly Arab country.

Do not mix IHH with Turkish Armed Forces. That plane was representing whole of Turkey while IHH not.

Thats not correct. They were citizens of Turkey. Actually what Israel did was more hostile than what the regime in Syria did. Baath regime hit a military plane,they are wrong to that though.

Btw, no one is giving a damn about your disappointments.

Thats right.

 

[TrMhMt]

According to Ahmet Davutoglu, Syria had shot down our plane in the international waters.

 

[bdslph]

right now i am waiting what TURKEY WILL DO

 

[drink_milk]

the turkish fm Mr.Davutoğlu: the jet was hit down 13 miles off the syrian cost, which means it was in international waters...

- the mission of the jet was training, it had no weapon, it had an open code to international radars

- the reason of the shooting down is either hostile or incompetent....

 

[King Solomon]

US never had war when they were attacked, whether its WW2, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghan, Libya etc, it was only US who bombed on others and others had to defend itself. even during WW2, they won it because they nuclear bombed on the civilians of Japan and when Japanese troops still didnt surrendered, US again dropped nuclear bomb on the civilians of another city of Japan just after 2 days which finally forced the Japanese troops to surrender otherwise US was going to bomb all the cities of Japan by nuclear bombs. even in case of Vietnam, they invaded there and kept fighting with as many as they could kill, as, anyhow people based in US+EU were safe. in case of Iraq, Afghan, Libya also, it was only NATO who bombed and others had to defend themselves. since WW2, NATO's aircrafts never had any real A2A combat with any country.

but this time they will face a new experience. this time they will face with those pilots who are better trained and have equally good 4th gen aircrafts. superior missile defence Russia has with having missile like Brahmos who exceed performance than NATO's missiles. over 20,000 tanks russia has and if Turkey provoke, Russia will put 2000 on Turkey's border, with start bombing on their different cities, which will finally mean by rolling tanks to Istanbul, and hopefully Turkey will then fall in control of Iran. rest, even one missile will hit a prime target of rest of Gulf, these Arabs will have pi$$ed in their pants just after that. losing one aircraft isn't as bad humiliation as compare to being rolled by tanks, the tanks which may then walks till Saudi Arabia also. therefore, they would better forget the things as a bad dream and stop sending terrorists to Syria from now onward

Turkey including other Gulf nations are on the ground attack target from Iran+Russia+Syria, while NATO's troops aren't credible enough for a face to face with heavily armed high tech military like Russia, while Iran itself has more than 1mil active troops with around 1.5 mil in reserve also. can NATO put this big strength in Gulf? no

The point is, this kind of action is not taken without forethought by any professional military, including Syrian army.

Syrian army, before firing the SAM, did take any possible reaction into account in their assessment. This was a very calculated move. What if Turkey shows no reaction? What if Turkey launches a full scale invasion? All factors were taken into account.

In the same way, unlike some angry Turks here, Erdogan is sane minded. Let's not forget he was bitching about invading Syria not 6 months ago. Now, he knows that Russian tanks would probably roll over to Istanbul if he tries any sort of misadventure.

As you said, humiliation of having one plane shot down is far less than having tanks roll over to Istanbul. Unlike some angry Turks here, Erdogan knows this very well. It would be better if the hot-headed Turks realized this.

 

[500]

One of the missing pilots.

 

[drink_milk]

King Solomon,

you start to seem like persians, you immediately start to invent stories about russian tanks.. nothing is that much easy as you said.

..about russian tanks and istanbul, just check out what happened in ww1 and after ww1 in turkey; and then check again russian capability after reconsideration what çeçens(chechens) did to your great tanks; and then check the military capabilities of iran,syria and russia after the ones in nato countries; and finally ask your self if russia is that much stupid to risk the future of the country for a dictator called ''asad''.( i just leave out the fact that there are many ethnic populations in russia who wait for the right time like the ones for example azerbaijan, kazakhstan etc.)

 

[Irfan Baloch]

It was an unknown aircraft which severely violated Syrian airspace, Syria has the right to shoot it down, they have no time for prolonged warnings. Now some angry Turks who don't understand the violation the fighter jet committed now want to destabilize the one defiant Arab country in the ME. If a Syrian jet violated Turkish airspace perhaps even flying 1 mile off shore from Istanbul would Turkiye not shoot it down?

As far as I know Syria has apologized and that was mature of them. Turkiye needs to cool it.

Saudis shot down Iranian fighter as well. back in the 80s, they didnt go to war. thank goodness

if Syria is owning up to shooting the craft then they must provide their findings or suggest combined investigation and hand over the pilots if not done already.

but if Syria takes a hostile route then it will loose out badly

 

[TheCommander]

@ King Solomon;

You are overestimate Russia and underestimate Turkiye and NATO. Yeah Russia is almighty and capable of everything!!! oh my god, how are we gonna protect ourselves from almighty Russia!!!? Btw,there is no doubt you only count Russian military capability in order to measure her power. Well, what can I say? The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) once was almighty and capable. at least she though so...