What's new

Syria received a new batch of 10 upgraded Su-24m2

The Syrian Arab Armed Forces are receiving 10 examples of the Sukhoi Su-24M2 'Fencer-D' attack aircraft from Russia, augmenting an unknown number of existing 'Fencers'. Jon Lake reports.


View attachment 390537

Before the on-going deliveries began, Syria had received 22 Su-24s in total.
Some 20 downgraded Su-24MK export versions were delivered from the Soviet Union in 1990, and these were augmented in the mid-1990s by single examples of the Su-24MK and the Su-24MR reconnaissance aircraft, which were donated by Libya after Syria provided support for Libya’s own ‘Fencer’ fleet.
The aircraft are operated by 819 squadron at T4 (Tyas) Airbase in Central Syria, though they have been detached to operate from other airfields, and have been seen in the south.
A contract to upgrade all 21 bomber versions to the latest Russian air forces Su-24M2 standard was signed in 2009 and work at the 514th ARZ (aircraft repair plant) at Rzhev began in 2010. The contract also covered the training of Syrian pilots and maintenance personnel on the new variant and its systems.
The upgrade will bring the aircraft up to the same standard as Russian ‘Fencers’ that have been modernised under the ‘Gefest’ and ‘Sukhoi’ programmes, which began in 1999 and 2000, and completed in 2009.
The upgrade will significantly enhance the capabilities of the Syrian Su-24s, and promises to improve availability and maintainability, as well as combat effectiveness.
Highlights of the upgrade include a new weapons control system, allowing the carriage of a greater range of weapons, including modern precision-guided missiles, a new SVP-24 navigation and weapons aiming system incorporating both GPS and global navigation satellite systems (GLONASS), and a new ILS-31 head-up display (HUD).
Though the upgrade allows a significant improvement in bombing precision and accuracy, in practice, the Syrian Su-24M2s continue to rely most heavily on unguided freefall FAB, OFAB and RBK series bombs.
It has been reported that most of the upgrades were completed in 2013 and that “more than half of the 21 upgraded Su-24s made it back to Syria”, though it has also been reported that up to 10 aircraft were not re-delivered, thanks to international embargos against Syria.
Satellite photos showed between five and eight aircraft in Syrian camouflage parked on the flightline at Rzhev, swathed in tarpaulins, late last year.
It remains unknown as to whether the ‘new’ deliveries are actually additional aircraft, or whether they are simply the balance of the aircraft upgraded under the 2009 contract.
One Su-24M2 has already been lost in action, being shot down over Daret Izzah in the Aleppo province on November 28 2012. Despite this setback, the Su-24M2 has become the most important type in the Syrian inventory, with other aircraft being increasingly ‘war weary’ and lacking in relevant capabilities.
On September 2 2013, Syrian Su-24s attempted to probe British air defences at Akrotiri on the island of Cyprus, but were turned back. They were also used to probe Turkish air defences the following month. This was hazardous work.
After the shooting down of a Turkish jet by Syrian forces in 2012, Turkey changed its rules of engagement so that any “military elements” approaching from Syria would be considered as a threat and would be dealt with accordingly. Subsequently, Turkey shot down a Syrian Mi-17 helicopter in September 2013, and destroyed a MiG-23 fighter-bomber in March 2014. About one year later, on November 24 2015, a Russian Sukhoi Su-24M2 was shot down by a Turkish Air Force F-16 fighter jet near the Syria-Turkey border.
With growing US pressure, Russia stepped down its attacks against the ‘moderate’ insurgent groups supported by the west, and the supply of more Su-24M2s to Syria could be seen as a deliberate effort to help the Assad regime to circumvent US and NATO attempts to confine its attacks to the so-called IS (Daesh) and Al-Nusra Front.
The Syrian Air Force has certainly significantly stepped up its involvement in the fighting, undertaking up to 30 sorties a day.
In August 2016, Syrian Su-24M2s, attempting to engage targets in north-eastern Syria where US special operations forces were operating alongside Kurdish forces, were intercepted by US F-22A Raptors and turned away. While the US supports the Kurds, who have been heavily involved in operations against so-called IS, the Syrian regime has been fighting against Syrian Kurdish groups.
On two occasions, the Syrian ‘Fencers’ were simply turned away, but there must be a real chance that they will be engaged and shot down, should they continue to provoke the US Air Force.

Not so effective stuff as it can not take PGMs like western counterparts also if Russia is serious then they should have provided latest Su-30 version to them at least.
 
.
.
off topic but when syrian air force can maintain twin engined russian jets then why can't pakistan air force do it?
 
.
LOL look who we got here. The American fanboy.

Buddy, we don't care what your opinion is. You are obviously on the US side which is fine. That is as long as you don't try to shut others who have a different opinion.

All I'm saying is to let Trump strike Syria again. We want see how bold and strong he is now. It is easy to attack when the opposition isn't ready or unprepared for a mass missile strike. This time will be different and even you know it.
I am not a fanboy of any state, my friend. I see positive and negative in every state. I don't glorify US for the sake of it.

I am telling you that - chawatiyian lagaana - doesn't bodes well for your credibility and message.

1. American intervention is not necessary in every conflict out there.

2. Should US intervene in a regional conflict, it is not necessary that US would go as far as to topple that regime. US might contribute as much as to make matters worse for the regime in question.

Chawatiyian are following:

1. Hey look! US is afraid to act.
2. Syria is not Iraq
3. US failed in Syria
4. Russia has warned US and the latter is backing out

Understand now?

Such perceptions are misinformed boasts about matters you have not properly understood or gauged selectively.

Reality is that Russia waited 3 straight years to gauge American response in Syria when the war began there; it started in 2011. Russian leadership feared that Syrian regime would meet its end just like Libyan regime in 2011. However, Obama administration decided not to topple Syrian regime and keep its intervention in Syria to a bear minimum (funding FSA).

Before Russia decided to intervene in Syria, it sought assurances from Obama administration that it would not counter-act and make matters really difficult for it in Syria (behind-the-scenes diplomacy). Russian economy is suffering (thanks in part to sanctions imposed on it by the US) and it cannot afford a quagmire scenario in Syria due to it. Obama administration obliged and Russian forces moved in 2015 in order to reverse the advances of rebels since 2011 and prevent collapse of Syrian regime.

When Trump administration came into power, Russian leadership felt assured that it would honor the understanding Russia had reached with Obama administration earlier and continue with the policy of non-intervention. Russia supported Donald Trump in elections because it feared that Hillary Clinton might seek 'regime change' in Syria.

Then one fine day, Trump administration gave a go-ahead for a strike on assets of Syrian regime and Russians are literally STUNNED.

Russia is now stuck in Syria and fears that its gains in Syria will be in vain. Tilierson has conveyed to Russia that Assad has to go (sooner or later). Russians are showing flexibility (behind-the-scenes) but putting pressure on the Trump administration to understand its position and delay the inevitable (for indefinite period) so that Russian forces would have a graceful exit from the country when the ongoing campaign comes to an end. All that act of toughness in front of media - is a mere pressure tactic and illusion for the gullible.

Russians fear a U-Turn from the US and another Afghanistan for it in Syria or worse.

Unfortunately, fanboys tend to be really selective in their judgement and offer a portrayal of events that are not like that in reality.

Please keep in mind that US is not a paper-tiger. You have to take it into confidence in the matters where its intervention is feared. Otherwise, you will fail - spectacularly at that, because US has the resources and might to make your life miserable there.

Analogy:

Pakistan has sought American permission to act inside Afghanistan in the aftermath of recent terrorist activities across the country.

You tend to see macho-ness in matters where it doesn't exist. Textbook example of a keyboard warrior, attempting to mislead others with falsehood.
 
Last edited:
.
Not so effective stuff as it can not take PGMs like western counterparts also if Russia is serious then they should have provided latest Su-30 version to them at least.
I dont know why you would think that as the russians designed a variety of pgms [laser/eo/satellite guided] that can be carried by the syrian su24s,now as for the actual syrian stocks of these weapons who can say,I would imagine tho` that these would probably be limited and very carefully conserved for use against the most important high value targets ie: terrorist commanders and the like
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Regional-PGM.html#mozTocId832438
 
.
The Syrian Arab Armed Forces are receiving 10 examples of the Sukhoi Su-24M2 'Fencer-D' attack aircraft from Russia, augmenting an unknown number of existing 'Fencers'. Jon Lake reports.


View attachment 390537

Before the on-going deliveries began, Syria had received 22 Su-24s in total.
Some 20 downgraded Su-24MK export versions were delivered from the Soviet Union in 1990, and these were augmented in the mid-1990s by single examples of the Su-24MK and the Su-24MR reconnaissance aircraft, which were donated by Libya after Syria provided support for Libya’s own ‘Fencer’ fleet.
The aircraft are operated by 819 squadron at T4 (Tyas) Airbase in Central Syria, though they have been detached to operate from other airfields, and have been seen in the south.
A contract to upgrade all 21 bomber versions to the latest Russian air forces Su-24M2 standard was signed in 2009 and work at the 514th ARZ (aircraft repair plant) at Rzhev began in 2010. The contract also covered the training of Syrian pilots and maintenance personnel on the new variant and its systems.
The upgrade will bring the aircraft up to the same standard as Russian ‘Fencers’ that have been modernised under the ‘Gefest’ and ‘Sukhoi’ programmes, which began in 1999 and 2000, and completed in 2009.
The upgrade will significantly enhance the capabilities of the Syrian Su-24s, and promises to improve availability and maintainability, as well as combat effectiveness.
Highlights of the upgrade include a new weapons control system, allowing the carriage of a greater range of weapons, including modern precision-guided missiles, a new SVP-24 navigation and weapons aiming system incorporating both GPS and global navigation satellite systems (GLONASS), and a new ILS-31 head-up display (HUD).
Though the upgrade allows a significant improvement in bombing precision and accuracy, in practice, the Syrian Su-24M2s continue to rely most heavily on unguided freefall FAB, OFAB and RBK series bombs.
It has been reported that most of the upgrades were completed in 2013 and that “more than half of the 21 upgraded Su-24s made it back to Syria”, though it has also been reported that up to 10 aircraft were not re-delivered, thanks to international embargos against Syria.
Satellite photos showed between five and eight aircraft in Syrian camouflage parked on the flightline at Rzhev, swathed in tarpaulins, late last year.
It remains unknown as to whether the ‘new’ deliveries are actually additional aircraft, or whether they are simply the balance of the aircraft upgraded under the 2009 contract.
One Su-24M2 has already been lost in action, being shot down over Daret Izzah in the Aleppo province on November 28 2012. Despite this setback, the Su-24M2 has become the most important type in the Syrian inventory, with other aircraft being increasingly ‘war weary’ and lacking in relevant capabilities.
On September 2 2013, Syrian Su-24s attempted to probe British air defences at Akrotiri on the island of Cyprus, but were turned back. They were also used to probe Turkish air defences the following month. This was hazardous work.
After the shooting down of a Turkish jet by Syrian forces in 2012, Turkey changed its rules of engagement so that any “military elements” approaching from Syria would be considered as a threat and would be dealt with accordingly. Subsequently, Turkey shot down a Syrian Mi-17 helicopter in September 2013, and destroyed a MiG-23 fighter-bomber in March 2014. About one year later, on November 24 2015, a Russian Sukhoi Su-24M2 was shot down by a Turkish Air Force F-16 fighter jet near the Syria-Turkey border.
With growing US pressure, Russia stepped down its attacks against the ‘moderate’ insurgent groups supported by the west, and the supply of more Su-24M2s to Syria could be seen as a deliberate effort to help the Assad regime to circumvent US and NATO attempts to confine its attacks to the so-called IS (Daesh) and Al-Nusra Front.
The Syrian Air Force has certainly significantly stepped up its involvement in the fighting, undertaking up to 30 sorties a day.
In August 2016, Syrian Su-24M2s, attempting to engage targets in north-eastern Syria where US special operations forces were operating alongside Kurdish forces, were intercepted by US F-22A Raptors and turned away. While the US supports the Kurds, who have been heavily involved in operations against so-called IS, the Syrian regime has been fighting against Syrian Kurdish groups.
On two occasions, the Syrian ‘Fencers’ were simply turned away, but there must be a real chance that they will be engaged and shot down, should they continue to provoke the US Air Force.
They should try to get all of them in Russia with Upgrades.
 
.
US is a loser in the long run in any case, even if North Korea doesn't nuke them to stone age.


Asad is a war criminal, and what is Trump? and G Bush ? and Tony Blair? r these saviors of the world ? SHUT UP Captain America
Here comes another....

No, they are not saviors of the world. I am a critic of American interventions in Iraq and Libya. However, reality is more complex than that.

Ask those who have suffered at the hands of Saddam Hussein and Muamer Qaddafi. They will tell you lot of horror stories.

Who adviced Saddam to order invasion of Kuwait for example? And when that happened, he was given an ultimatum of 1 straight year to back out but he didn't. His irrationality cost him his life and countless Iraqi in the end.

And battlefield success in Iraq emboldened US enough to take out another state.
 
Last edited:
.
Here comes another....

No, they are not saviors of the world. I am a critic of American interventions in Iraq and Libya. However, reality is more complex than that.

Ask those who have suffered at the hands of Saddam Hussein and Muamer Qaddafi. They will tell you lot of horror stories.
Saddam amd Gaddafi cant be as bad as the situation is now after the intervention of Lucifer America
 
.
Saddam amd Gaddafi cant be as bad as the situation is now after the intervention of Lucifer America
It is bad, but not as bad as it seems to be on media.

A large part of Iraq has returned to normal and defeat of ISIS is inevitable.

But yes! Iraq has lost its power. Hopefully, this state will learn from the mistakes of Saddam Hussein.

Another issue is that Islamic states themselves lack in unity. They literally seek foreign intervention to address their problems. Saudi Arabia motivated US to take action against Saddam Hussein for example. Saudi even funded the first Gulf War for the said purpose.
 
.
It is bad, but not as bad as it seems to be on media.

A large part of Iraq has returned to normal and defeat of ISIS is inevitable.

But yes! Iraq has lost its power. Hopefully, this state will learn from the mistakes of Saddam Hussein.

Another issue is that Islamic states themselves lack in unity. They literally seek foreign intervention to address their problems. Saudi Arabia motivated US to take action against Saddam Hussein for example. Saudi even funded the first Gulf War for the said purpose.
and now Saudi Arab is next on line
 
. .
US Air Force operating in Syrian air space under which international law?
 
.
US Air Force operating in Syrian air space under which international law?
Honestly, none. They are blatantly violating Syrian sovereignity.

More painful is the fact that Islamic states have become testing grounds for new weapon systems.
 
.
Aap ko chawatiyiaan lagaaney kaa bahaut shouq hai.

First, fanboys raved that US does not have the spine to attack Syrian regime under the shadow of Russian forces.

US delivered.

Now, you are saying that US won't attack Syrian regime again.

On the contrary, US has warned that this isn't the end. Syrian regime needs to watch its back.

My point is that their is difference between perception and reality. Underestimating US is a grave mistake for anybody.

And stop championing a war criminal like Assad. Think about the lives he has ruined.
Syria was peacefull untill evil USA started supporting terrorists n destroy country obama and trump are equall in war crime with Assad
 
.
I want to see Trump attack Syria again now. The redneck coward won't. He scored his brownie points whilst he could and that was that.

Russia and Iran are beefing up Syria's defensive capabilities leaps and bounds. They understand Yankee tactics and are taking precautionary measures.
This makes little difference. Even if the Syrians had PAK-FAs, the US could easily destroy the entire Syrian fleet, if it wants to.

Syria was peacefull untill evil USA started supporting terrorists n destroy country obama and trump are equall in war crime with Assad
They had a mass murdering dictator in power, what you call peaceful, I call oppression.
 
.

Country Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom