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[Penguin]

The S-300 system was first deployed by the Soviet Union in 1979 and is regarded as one of the most potent anti-aircraft missile systems currently fielded, at least according to: International Assessment and Strategy Center > Research > Almaz S-300 – China's “Offensive” Air Defense .

The S-300 is a series of Russian long range surface-to-air missile systems produced by NPO Almaz, all based on the initial S-300P version. The S-300 system was developed to defend against aircraft and cruise missiles for the Soviet Air Defence Forces. Subsequent variations were developed to intercept ballistic missiles.
Numerous versions have since emerged with different missiles, improved radars, better resistance to countermeasures, longer range and better capability against short-range ballistic missiles or targets flying at very low altitude. There are currently three main variations: S-300V, S-300P and S-300F. An evolved version of the S-300 system is the S-400 (NATO reporting name SA-21), entering service in 2004.

S-300 uses a range of missiles developed by MKB "Fakel" design bureau (a separate government corporation, aka "OKB-2").

5V55K - 47 km
5V55KD - 75km
5V55R - 90 km
5V55RM - 90km
5V55U - 150km
48N6E - 150km
48N6E2 - 195 km
9M82 - 40km
9M83 - 100km
9M83ME - 200km
9M96E1 - 40km
9m96E2 - 120km
40N6 - 400km

IMHO that makes it rather difficult to agree to a blanket statement that S-300 is obsolete > which system with which missile(s)?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300_(missile)

 

[Arsalan]

The S-300 system was first deployed by the Soviet Union in 1979 and is regarded as one of the most potent anti-aircraft missile systems currently fielded, at least according to: International Assessment and Strategy Center > Research > Almaz S-300 – China's “Offensive” Air Defense .

The S-300 is a series of Russian long range surface-to-air missile systems produced by NPO Almaz, all based on the initial S-300P version. The S-300 system was developed to defend against aircraft and cruise missiles for the Soviet Air Defence Forces. Subsequent variations were developed to intercept ballistic missiles.
Numerous versions have since emerged with different missiles, improved radars, better resistance to countermeasures, longer range and better capability against short-range ballistic missiles or targets flying at very low altitude. There are currently three main variations: S-300V, S-300P and S-300F. An evolved version of the S-300 system is the S-400 (NATO reporting name SA-21), entering service in 2004.

S-300 uses a range of missiles developed by MKB "Fakel" design bureau (a separate government corporation, aka "OKB-2").

5V55K - 47 km
5V55KD - 75km
5V55R - 90 km
5V55RM - 90km
5V55U - 150km
48N6E - 150km
48N6E2 - 195 km
9M82 - 40km
9M83 - 100km
9M83ME - 200km
9M96E1 - 40km
9m96E2 - 120km
40N6 - 400km

IMHO that makes it rather difficult to agree to a blanket statement that S-300 is obsolete > which system with which missile(s)?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300_(missile)

thats the point!
moreover the system was being claimed obsolete based ona rumore thatthe IAF had no difficulties evading them in Syria, as a matter of fact, Syrai did not had the S-300 batteries deployed so the whole discussion goes down!

concluding, the S-300 or it rumored chines copy the HQ-9 are the perfect choice of PA to gt there hands onto. perhaps FT-2000 that is reported to be based on HQ-9 is even better and that it the reason we have been hearing about it since 2003!

regards!

 

[CAPTAIN AMERICA]

thats the point!
moreover the system was being claimed obsolete based ona rumore thatthe IAF had no difficulties evading them in Syria, as a matter of fact, Syrai did not had the S-300 batteries deployed so the whole discussion goes down!

concluding, the S-300 or it rumored chines copy the HQ-9 are the perfect choice of PA to gt there hands onto. perhaps FT-2000 that is reported to be based on HQ-9 is even better and that it the reason we have been hearing about it since 2003!

regards!

Best I can tell a number of sources including Turkey are saying Greece has given Isreal the S300s or at least the details. Israel has very advanced electronic ability, and when you add what happen in Syria, I would guess the S300s are compromised.

 

[Penguin]

Best I can tell a number of sources including Turkey are saying Greece has given Isreal the S300s or at least the details. Israel has very advanced electronic ability, and when you add what happen in Syria, I would guess the S300s are compromised.

If, given we here know this, you suppose the russians wouldn't be aware of this and wouldn't take counter steps? The game isn't that simple.

 

[Arsalan]

Best I can tell a number of sources including Turkey are saying Greece has given Isreal the S300s or at least the details. Israel has very advanced electronic ability, and when you add what happen in Syria, I would guess the S300s are compromised.

therer are no S-300 with Syria sir!

 

[rockstarIN]

Modern war planes are vulnerable to SAM systems still..

US "stealth bomber" was shot down by SAM in Kosovo war.

Russian Su-27 was shot down by a Parocha SAM system in Georgian war.

Rgds,

 

[Dark Angel]

Its quite likely that Israel has allready compromised the S300 systems and I expect and any later version that Russia has produced. The only way Russia with a economy only one seventh that of the USA can produced sophisticated military equipment is to market it to other countries and you can be sure Israel will get their hands on it one way or the other. Too many countries out there where the corruption is too bad and the Mossad too good.

Israel loses Turkey, gains Greece as strategic partner
By Media Watch– July 6, 2010
Posted in: Headlines, Turkey
DEBKA


Israel loses Turkey, gains Greece as strategic partner

How do you survive in States with such gramatical errors ..........anyways a zillion people have told u that Syria dosent have S-300 hope ur not blind and deaf and need interpreter

 

[Dark Angel]

Modern war planes are vulnerable to SAM systems still..

US "stealth bomber" was shot down by SAM in Kosovo war.

Russian Su-27 was shot down by a Parocha SAM system in Georgian war.

Rgds,

S-125 Neva/Pechora......... The IAF currently operates the S-125 Pechora

 

[500]

Modern war planes are vulnerable to SAM systems still..

US "stealth bomber" was shot down by SAM in Kosovo war.

Its because they were flying by same route and time for 3 nights in row.

Russian Su-27 was shot down by a Parocha SAM system in Georgian war.

No Su-27 was shot down in that war. These are jets that were shot down:

4 Su-25
2 Su-24
1 Tu-22M

 

[CAPTAIN AMERICA]

The S-300 system was first deployed by the Soviet Union in 1979 and is regarded as one of the most potent anti-aircraft missile systems currently fielded, at least according to: International Assessment and Strategy Center > Research > Almaz S-300 – China's “Offensive” Air Defense .

The S-300 is a series of Russian long range surface-to-air missile systems produced by NPO Almaz, all based on the initial S-300P version. The S-300 system was developed to defend against aircraft and cruise missiles for the Soviet Air Defence Forces. Subsequent variations were developed to intercept ballistic missiles.
Numerous versions have since emerged with different missiles, improved radars, better resistance to countermeasures, longer range and better capability against short-range ballistic missiles or targets flying at very low altitude. There are currently three main variations: S-300V, S-300P and S-300F. An evolved version of the S-300 system is the S-400 (NATO reporting name SA-21), entering service in 2004.

S-300 uses a range of missiles developed by MKB "Fakel" design bureau (a separate government corporation, aka "OKB-2").

5V55K - 47 km
5V55KD - 75km
5V55R - 90 km
5V55RM - 90km
5V55U - 150km
48N6E - 150km
48N6E2 - 195 km
9M82 - 40km
9M83 - 100km
9M83ME - 200km
9M96E1 - 40km
9m96E2 - 120km
40N6 - 400km

IMHO that makes it rather difficult to agree to a blanket statement that S-300 is obsolete > which system with which missile(s)?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300_(missile)

If it was not obsolete why would Russia be fielding more advanced systems such as the S400.

 

[siegecrossbow]

If it was not obsolete why would Russia be fielding more advanced systems such as the S400.

By your logic the U.S. should scrap all F-15s, F-16s, and F-18s immediately and focus on F-22 and F-35 productions, starting this day.

 

[Arsalan]

By your logic the U.S. should scrap all F-15s, F-16s, and F-18s immediately and focus on F-22 and F-35 productions, starting this day.

nice point,
well captain america, wht do you suggest?

regards

 

[CAPTAIN AMERICA]

nice point,
well captain america, wht do you suggest?

regards

Hes got me there, Surface to Air Missiles have their place, in an overall defense, I just have some doubts with the advent of advanced drones they are going to of much worth.

 

[rockstarIN]

Hes got me there, Surface to Air Missiles have their place, in an overall defense, I just have some doubts with the advent of advanced drones they are going to of much worth.

As on today, drones are like 3rd generation attack air crafts..

Not even able for A2A roles..

Remember SAMs can shoot down satellites thru which drones are controlled.

---------- Post added at 05:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:45 PM ----------

S-125 Neva/Pechora......... The IAF currently operates the S-125 Pechora

Spelling mistake..

 

[Arsalan]

Spelling mistake..

moreover i also think that these had been decomissioned now