Sukhoi PAK-FA / FGFA: Updates,News & Discussions

[sancho]

Not sure how reliable these infos and specs are, but still interesting:

(google translated)

Deliveries promising aviation complex tactical aircraft in the Air Force to start trial operation will begin in 2016

...Mikhail Pogosyan.
"It is planned to complete the first stage of state joint tests in 2015 and 2016 with the delivery of the aircraft to begin trial operation in the Air Force,"...

...Fighter with a long name "promising aviation complex tactical aviation" has successfully completed dozens of test flights. OKB "Dry" started to produce small batches of PAK FA in 2013, and in 2016 to bring mass production to full capacity. Estimated value of the car - $ 100 million
Tactical and technical characteristics of the aircraft PAK FA / T-50:

• Crew: 1 person
• Length: 19.4 m
• Wingspan: 14 m
• Swipe back GO: 10.8 m
• Height: 4.8m
• Wing Area: 90 m
• Weight empty: 17,500 kg Normal take-off weight: 63% Fuel: 26510 kg with 100% fuel: 30610 kg Maximum takeoff weight: 35,480 kg
• Fuel Weight: 11100 kg

Engine:

• Engine Type: Turbofan with afterburner and thrust vector control
• Model: "AL-41F1" (on the prototype and the first batches of aircraft engine "second phase" has a factory designation "Article 129")
• Limiting speed at altitude: 2125-2600 km / h (2,0-2,45 M)
• Besforsazhnom Maximum speed: 1300-2100 km / h (1.1-2.0 M)
• Practical range: at cruising speed from 63% fuel: 2700 km with 100% of fuel: 4300 km 2 FTB 5500 km besforsazhnom supersonic speed from 63% of fuel: 1200 km with 100% of fuel: 2000 km
• Flight Duration: up to 5.8 h
• Service ceiling: 20,000 m
• Rate of climb: 350 m / s
• Takeoff / distance: 350 m
• Cannon Armament: 30 mm cannon built (upgraded GS-301)
• Warload: 1310-10000 kg for air combat, weapons bays: 1620 kg (8 x RVV-SD + 2 x RVV-MD) against ground targets, weapons bays: 4220 kg (8 x CC-500 + 2 x RVV -MD)
• Point suspension: Internal: 8 or 10 external 8 or 2

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And a new pic:

 

[Gessler]

Tactical and technical characteristics of the aircraft PAK FA / T-50:
Crew: 1 person
Length: 19.4 m
Wingspan: 14 m
Swipe back GO: 10.8 m
Height: 4.8m
Wing Area: 90 m
Weight empty: 17,500 kg Normal take-off weight: 63% Fuel: 26510 kg with 100% fuel: 30610 kg Maximum takeoff weight: 35,480 kg
Fuel Weight: 11100 kg

Engine:
Engine Type: Turbofan with afterburner and thrust vector control
Model: "AL-41F1" (on the prototype and the first batches of aircraft engine "second phase" has a factory designation "Article 129")
Limiting speed at altitude: 2125-2600 km / h (2,0-2,45 M)
Besforsazhnom Maximum speed: 1300-2100 km / h (1.1-2.0 M)

Practical range: at cruising speed from 63% fuel: 2700 km with 100% of fuel: 4300 km 2 FTB 5500 km besforsazhnom supersonic speed from 63% of fuel: 1200 km with 100% of fuel: 2000 km
Flight Duration: up to 5.8 h

Service ceiling: 20,000 m ( 65,000+ ft )
Rate of climb: 350 m / s
Takeoff / distance: 350 m

Cannon Armament: 30 mm cannon built (upgraded GS-301)
Warload: 1310-10000 kg for air combat, weapons bays: 1620 kg (8 x RVV-SD + 2 x RVV-MD) against ground targets, weapons bays: 4220 kg (8 x CC-500 + 2 x RVV -MD)
Point suspension: Internal: 8 or 10 external 8 or 2

Поставки перспективного авиационного комплекса фронтовой авиации в ВВС для начала опытной эксплуатации начнутся с 2016 года — ОРУЖИЕ РОССИИ, Информационное агентство

Not sure if everything is confirmed by officials or not, but if it's true, PAK-FA is a beast.

Copyright : bbb4445

 

[illusion8]

Поставки перспективного авиационного комплекса фронтовой авиации в ВВС для начала опытной эксплуатации начнутся с 2016 года — ОРУЖИЕ РОССИИ, Информационное агентство

Not sure if everything is confirmed by officials or not, but if it's true, PAK-FA is a beast.

Copyright : bbb4445

That's ps'ed most likely.

 

[jarves]

Cant miss this thread so posting here.

 

[trident2010]

Any new tests done recently?

 

[Gessler]

That's ps'ed most likely.

Ofcourse it's not real, but a good work of art.

Don't share it without credit to that person though (bbb4445).

 

[he-man]

Cant miss this thread so posting here.

 

[Echo_419]

Not sure how reliable these infos and specs are, but still interesting:

(google translated)


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And a new pic:

Small question
We are getting some TOT for tge M88 engine & some for this engine to be used in Pak Fa
So are we getting some critical tech
If yes how will it help in developing Kaveri further

 

[he-man]

Small question
We are getting some TOT for tge M88 engine & some for this engine to be used in Pak Fa
So are we getting some critical tech
If yes how will it help in developing Kaveri further

Nope 0

Russian type 30 vce engine is 100 pc russian,we have 0 contribution technically as well as financially

0

Infact we haven't even signed the r&d contract committing our 5.5 billion $ for pakfa project and russians already have 5 prototypes flying and development of type 30 engine has already started

 

[sancho]

That's ps'ed most likely.

Yes it is:

Sukhoi PAK-FA / FGFA: Updates,News & Discussions | Page 126

Small question
We are getting some TOT for tge M88 engine & some for this engine to be used in Pak Fa
So are we getting some critical tech
If yes how will it help in developing Kaveri further

Hopefully it helps, but that needs to be seen and it will take time. You have absorb the techs on the one side and implement it into Kaveri on the other. A co-development with an experienced partner would had been the faster and easier way. For Type 30, we also made the mistake to not go for a joint development, or at least to modify the engine to our requirements, at least there is no hint for such contracts so far. Another chance we missed to gain experience and know how in a more effective and faster way.

 

[he-man]

Yes it is:

Sukhoi PAK-FA / FGFA: Updates,News & Discussions | Page 126



Hopefully it helps, but that needs to be seen and it will take time. You have absorb the techs on the one side and implement it into Kaveri on the other. A co-development with an experienced partner would had been the faster and easier way. For Type 30, we also made the mistake to not go for a joint development, or at least to modify the engine to our requirements, at least there is no hint for such contracts so far. Another chance we missed to gain experience and know how in a more effective and faster way.

Considering type 30 is a vce just like kaveri it was stupid not to opt for a jv.

 

[jarves]

Dont worry it will take only some days for me to read the whole thread.

 

[arp2041]

 

[Haitham]

I read some news that india is disappointed from PAK-FA as Indian Air Force Deputy Air Marshall S Sukumar said
is that right???

 

[jarves]

Deputy Air Marshall S Sukumar said

Can you give a link for this?? Anyway read this-

Criticism of FGFA project unfounded - Russian strategic analyst | Russia & India Report