Su-30. Biggest and baddest two seater multi role.

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

@925boy @TexasJohn @Suika @Yaseen1 @That Guy @Georg @rambro @LeGenD

 

[Beast]

I agree Sukhoi 27 design is the most successful heavy weight fighter modern jet ever produced. Attain great agility despite its big size, long range flight even without drop tank and huge payload.

Far better than F-15 and other peers.

But best multi-role flanker series will goes to J-16. its digital glass cockpit and AESA radar are unrivaled.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

I agree Sukhoi 27 design is the most successful heavy weight fighter modern jet ever produced. Attain great agility despite its big size, long range flight even without drop tank and huge payload.

Far better than F-15 and other peers.

But best multi-role flanker series will goes to J-16. its digital glass cockpit and AESA radar are unrivaled.

J-16 is Su-30 family. It is a Chinese bastardized version.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

Looks oretty but it is just too big and has massive rcs. A flop in bvr. No rather obsolete as its iompetition and tract it first and fire at it first with very high probability of kill.

 

[khansaheeb]

why are advertising here, we ain't going to buy them.

 

[sohail.ishaque]

listen @0:26
And listen carefully and then tell us about the Biggest, baddest two seater fighter jet of the world

 

[Umair Nawaz]

haha bro Flanker market is down thanks to operation swift retort, malaysia has already rejected Su35 as well as even Belarus is having second thoughts abt Su30SM, turns out, nobody wants to buy a jet which takes 6 hrs maintenance per fight and an army of engineers along with it, and still get shot down by an F16BM manufactured in 1984.

 

[graphican]

It will be worth watching DCS fight between Su-30 and JF-17/F-16. Somebody should prepare that.

 

[alee92nawaz]

It will be worth watching DCS fight between Su-30 and JF-17/F-16. Somebody should prepare that.

There are a few but the users say that JF-17 is over tweaked

 

[graphican]

There are a few but the users say that JF-17 is over tweaked

JF-17 tweaked to make worse or better? I had seen a few videos in which JF-17 was beating the a$$ of almost every aircraft, then DCS made adjustments and made it worse - for some strange reasons. Is that what you talking about?

 

[Beast]

haha bro Flanker market is down thanks to operation swift retort, malaysia has already rejected Su35 as well as even Belarus is having second thoughts abt Su30SM, turns out, nobody wants to buy a jet which takes 6 hrs maintenance per fight and an army of engineers along with it, and still get shot down by an F16BM manufactured in 1984.

Flanker is an expensive maintenance fighter/bomber but Chinese flanker is fully maintain by Chinese companies , so cost is significantly bring down compare to Russian sold Flanker. Unfortunately, Chinese flanker are not allowed to be exported between an agreement between China and Russian.

India AF maintenance abilities are not fully indigenous. They still need to import many parts from Russian to fully kept their MKI flying.

While estimated more than 400 domestic made flanker in service for PLAAF/PLANAF.

 

[LeGenD]

I agree Sukhoi 27 design is the most successful heavy weight fighter modern jet ever produced. Attain great agility despite its big size, long range flight even without drop tank and huge payload.

Far better than F-15 and other peers.

But best multi-role flanker series will goes to J-16. its digital glass cockpit and AESA radar are unrivaled.

No, it isn't.

F-15 is superior in every aspect.

Recommended: https://www.wearethemighty.com/eagle-versus-flanker-deadlier-2554845612.amp.html

 

[Beast]

No, it isn't.

F-15 is superior in every aspect.

Recommended: https://www.wearethemighty.com/eagle-versus-flanker-deadlier-2554845612.amp.html

Please!!! Spare us from this kind of biased self bragging article from American. Bragging about combat record? Half the flanker are used by third world with poor maintenance countries with poor training. While US never dare to take on Chinese and Russian flanker. There is no way for this self bragging article to prove anything..

US F-15 still need to carry drop tank to fulfill the range of a fully fuel flanker with no drop tank. Flanker despite being even heavy and bigger still outmaneuver a F-15 easily in low attitude while F-15 only has slight advantage in turning over Flanker in high attitude engagement.

I will put my money on a J-16 over any F-15 in an one to one engagement with same pilot skill.

 

[LeGenD]

Please!!! Spare us from this kind of biased self bragging article from American. Bragging about combat record? Half the flanker are used by third world with poor maintenance countries with poor training. While US never dare to take on Chinese and Russian flanker. There is no way for this self bragging article to prove anything..

US F-15 still need to carry drop tank to fulfill the range of a fully fuel flanker with no drop tank. Flanker despite being even heavy and bigger still outmaneuver a F-15 easily in low attitude while F-15 only has slight advantage in turning over Flanker in high attitude engagement.

I will put my money on a J-16 over any F-15 in an one to one engagement with same pilot skill.

You have a problem with everything American it seems. Height of insecurity.

Sukhoi 27 design = Russian effort to bring Sukhoi at par with relatively older American F-14 and F-15 designs in the kinematics aspect. However, F-15 is superior aircraft on the whole by far. Refer back to the link in my previous post which you didn't even bother to read coz it is American.

J-16 is a Chinese amendment to Sukhoi 27 but still a largely untested aircraft. Not discussing this aircraft here.

WAIT...

US F-15 still need to carry drop tank to fulfill the range of a fully fuel flanker with no drop tank. Flanker despite being even heavy and bigger still outmaneuver a F-15 easily in low attitude while F-15 only has slight advantage in turning over Flanker in high attitude engagement.

Sukhoi 27 being able to [easily] outmaneuver an F-15 in low altitude situations? ABSOLUTELY...

Just some meters above the ground.

Those are actual evasive maneuvers of the jet - not largely irrelevant show stunts. Look how easily the jet turns and does not loose speed in the process.

"Low wing-loading (the ratio of aircraft weight to its wing area) is a vital factor in maneuverability and, combined with the high thrust-to-weight ratio, enables the aircraft to turn tightly without losing airspeed." - Dan Gleiter

F-15 have numerous variants A/B/C/D/E with distinct specializations. You cannot paint all with the same brush.