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Billions of taxpayer dollars spent on development assistance have propped up the most repressive elements in Pakistani society. So it's time to alter the deal.

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On Feb. 10, the Wall Street Journal reported that Sen. Bob Corker, chairman of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, plans to block the Barack Obama administration from financing the sale of up to eight F-16 fighter aircraft to Pakistan. In a letter to Secretary of State John Kerry, Corker observed that the U.S. relationship with Pakistan is “complicated and imperfect,” and that although cooperation has achieved “some of our interests,” Pakistan remains a “duplicitous partner, moving sideways rather than forward in resolving regional challenges.” Corker was particularly angered by Pakistan’s persistent support to the Haqqani faction of the Afghan Taliban.

Corker’s decision is no mere lonely move by a maverick legislator. It is a bellwether of widespread and growing frustration with Pakistan on Capitol Hill. The time has come to mend, if not end, U.S. assistance to Pakistan.

While Corker’s conclusions are essentially valid, his blanket hold on U.S.Foreign Military Financing (FMF) to Pakistan is only a stopgap measure. FMF in each of the past five years has averaged nearly $300 million. In addition, since 2001, Washington has reimbursed over $13 billion in Coalition Support Funds and provided some $9 billion in economic assistance to Pakistan between 2002 and 2014. Corker’s move is unlikely to resolve the widespread confusion — in Washington and Islamabad alike — over U.S. aims and expectations for assistance programming in Pakistan.

Mending U.S. assistance to Pakistan requires a more sophisticated and comprehensive approach for precisely the reasons that Corker notes: The countries continue to share both overlapping and diverging interests with this nuclear-armed nation of nearly 200 million people. Washington should keep the following points in mind as it reconsiders assistance to Pakistan.

First, Washington should be careful not to overestimate the leverage generated by U.S. assistance. It has learned this lesson through its long experience in Pakistan. Despite tens of billions of dollars in aid since 9/11, Islamabad still does not see the world through the United States’ preferred strategic prism — whether in Afghanistan, India, or on the issue of nuclear proliferation. Then again, history also shows that U.S. sanctions on Pakistan throughout the 1990s failed to curtail Pakistan’s nuclear ambitions, the political dominance of its military, or the state’s support to terrorist groups like the Taliban and Lashkar-e-Taiba that have engulfed the region in violence. Aid is no panacea. Neither are sanctions.

Second, U.S. assistance is never delivered in a vacuum; its political effects must be assessed in a broader context. For instance, U.S. lawmakers should not be surprised that billions of dollars in development assistance over the past decade failed to win Pakistani “hearts and minds,” when the arrival of that money coincided with a massive surge in violence at least partly caused by the U.S. war in neighboring Afghanistan.

Similarly, Sen. Corker’s threat to hold up FMF until Pakistan turns against the Haqqani network is only the latest wrinkle in the long, complicated saga of the U.S. war in Afghanistan and its associated dealings with Pakistan. Unfortunately, that saga is full of mixed messages being sent from Washington to Islamabad. Right now, U.S. officials are not simply using assistance as coercive leverage to force Pakistan to fight the Haqqanis; they are also asking for Pakistan’s help to facilitate a “reconciliation dialogue” with all factions of the Afghan insurgency (including the Haqqanis). These mixed messages come at a time of deep Pakistani doubts about the future of America’s commitment to Afghanistan’s struggling government and security forces. Under such circumstances, Pakistan’s decisions about how to manage relations with the Haqqanis will surely be influenced by many factors beyond U.S. aid.

Third, Pakistan is a high-stakes game for the United States. Washington should steer clear of risky policy moves — including threats to curtail assistance and reimbursements — unless they hold the realistic promise of significant gains. Washington must appreciate that fixing today’s patently broken aid strategy is a tricky business, and that some “solutions” could make the problem even worse. This is not an unqualified argument against cutting Pakistan’s aid, but only for thinking carefully and acting with purpose.

Many academics and pundits have correctly pointed out failings in U.S. assistance to Pakistan. Most damningly, they argue that U.S. aid is often worse than ineffective; it is positively counterproductive. These critics have a point:

Too often, American money has propped up some of the most repressive, anti-reformist leaders and institutions in Pakistani society, including the military and feudal civilian elites.Too often, American money has propped up some of the most repressive, anti-reformist leaders and institutions in Pakistani society, including the military and feudal civilian elites. So it is not altogether farfetched to argue that comprehensive, well-timed sanctions (including cutting indirect aid through multilateral lending institutions) could coerce Pakistan’s military and civilian establishment into enacting policies that would better serve U.S. interests. Indeed, the United States has successfully coerced Pakistan in the past — temporarily, at least. The George W. Bush administration’s post-9/11 “with us or against us” threat to then-President Pervez Musharraf forced Pakistan into an early, if fleeting and inadequate, alliance against al-Qaeda, one that netted several high-profile terrorists living in Pakistan like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.


But it is equally important to appreciate that U.S. attempts at coercion could backfire, raising tensions and weakening Pakistan in ways that make Islamabad both less willing and less capable of advancing any constructive agenda. One thing is certain: Rarely is Washington as capable of delivering a credible threat as it was in the days after 9/11. So unless the United States is really willing to pick a serious fight with Pakistan, it should avoid moves that irritate or weaken Islamabad when they hold little hope of advancing a serious strategic purpose.

Fourth, Washington needs to be much clearer about what it realistically expects to achieve with specific types of assistance to Pakistan. Whether provided for military or civilian purposes, U.S. aid is normally intended to serve one of several basic aims: building capacity, improving leverage, and buying access. Too often, the arguments for U.S. aid to Pakistan have been unconvincing because their purposes have been muddled. U.S. F-16s are a case in point. Are they intended to improve Pakistan’s counterinsurgency capacity along the Afghan border? Buy us more time in Army Chief Gen. Raheel Sharif’s office? Or, as Corker implies, to induce Pakistan’s army to attack the Haqqanis? The clearer and more realistic the aim, the easier it will be to judge whether the assistance is likely to deliver the desired outcome at a reasonable cost, the more likely it will win necessary congressional support, and the simpler it will be to explain to the Pakistanis.

Fifth, and finally, Washington should adopt a tripartite categorization of all assistance to Pakistan based on the degree to which the goals of each overlap. In the first category would be areas where there is a nearly complete convergence of American and Pakistani goals, but where the United States can offer financial, technical, or other support to lighten the burden on a relatively weaker, less-developed, and poorer nation.

Much of U.S. civilian assistance to Pakistan falls into this category, because it is principally aimed at improving the country’s economic prospects as a means of achieving greater security and political stability over the long run. Military assistance in Pakistan’s fight against domestic insurgent groups like the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan would also fall into this category, since Washington also views these groups as dangerous terrorists. U.S. aid in the category should be judged principally by its effectiveness, and its scale should be determined in part by how much is needed to make a meaningful difference to Pakistan’s future. Congress’s job is to oversee whether the executive branch is accurately assessing the effectiveness of that aid, but the money should not be burdened by onerous legislative conditions on the assumption that Pakistan will use it appropriately because Washington’s interests are more or less aligned.

In the second category would be areas of agreement over ends, but not means. Here, U.S. aid would be provided to advance common interests, but according to Washington’s preferences — not Islamabad’s. For instance, money for education would be conditioned on curriculum reform, or money for counterinsurgency linked to specialized training. This category of aid should be conditioned by Congress to make it more likely that it will be put to use in the ways defined by U.S. officials, but with enough flexibility to show that Washington’s main goal is cooperation, not coercive leverage.

In the third category would be areas of basic disagreement between Washington and Islamabad, such as longstanding disputes over the Haqqani network and Lashkar-e-Taiba. Aid in this category is clearly intended as leverage. It must include strictly legislated conditions, and should be structured in ways that delivery takes place only after Pakistan satisfies Washington’s requirements. Here, the goal is to demonstrate the value that the United States would place on a policy shift by Islamabad while simultaneously being honest to ourselves and the Pakistanis about the deep differences that threaten to derail the bilateral relationship altogether.

To be clear, none of these changes is likely to resolve the cognitive dissonance at the heart of the U.S.-Pakistan relationship, at least not quickly. But Sen. Corker’s letter is an important indicator that the present strategy is politically unsustainable, while more radical calls to end U.S. assistance altogether are either too simplistic or too risky. Better to undertake the serious effort of mending our assistance strategy, if only to more transparently and realistically connect means and ends in ways that Americans and Pakistanis will better understand.
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The Americans are living in a fantasy. China and other important regional players have already substituted and curtailed US influence in this country to a bare minimum. The US has nothing to threaten Pakistan with.

Pakistan policy vis-a-vis the US is simple. You want to provide military and economic aid? Please do so. You don't want to provide military and economic aid? Even better.

For Pakistan, American aid (which should really be termed a bribe) has been an unending curse. This is how the Pakistani people view American "help". Frankly, the people of Pakistan reject US military/economic aid. The US policy of bribing Pakistan has failed miserably and Chinese investment in the right areas has demonstrated this very clearly.

The interests of Pakistan and other regional powers such as China and Russia don't converge on many areas with US interests. The Americans need to understand that their fight isn't solely based against Pakistan.
 
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For Pakistan, American aid (which should really be termed a bribe) has been an unending curse

I think there is no better way to put it. The money lines the pockets of the ruling class doing literally nothing for PAK citizens. Ending such aide would be in the best interest of the world. Sadly, I see no legislation (From the USA) to stop it any time soon. The US Media heralds it to the sheep as if we do it for some unknown greater good. The truth is often the last facts to be examined/analizd in such situations It bothers me.
 
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Asking the US to change its methods of influence for Pakistan is as simple and impossible as asking it to change its entire foreign policy doctrine since probably the 1930's. USAID is just another arm of that, when we like governments and need something, it floweth forth in its billions, when we don't like someone, the 'regime' of that nation gets a massive boot up its backside, and a halt to aid. And the more you push, the more brazen the intervention from the states can become, and limits you can only define by which country you are, what they want and how much of a fight you'll give.

Also, a lot of USAID is not simply handed over, there's an amount proposed, another agreed upon, yet another smaller that is earmarked for the fiscal year, and then congress can release, or withhold it in smaller parts. And even then, what percentage makes it to the countries it is intended for is whittled down, it's funnelled through US firms, and they take a bite out of it. The rest can also be either completely or partially be taken by the corrupt elite.

And for the money to be freed up in the first place, it requires you to sell your soul, and USAID comes without any moral condition, it can be given to a bloody dictator or a saintly democratic leader, it doesn't matter, as long as the interests are served. This also means that the ability of locals to chose their own representatives is second to the interests they serve of the US.
 
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Actually that is precisely how the US is able to pull strings in Pakistan. They buy out our legislators and politicians who in turn do what the US desires. If you ask Pakistanis, a vast majority of them are going to reject the idea of 'any' kind of US aid to Pakistan be it civil or military. Only kind of aid Pakistani people are going to appreciate is if the US brings its University campuses to Pakistan and funds education of our youth.

I think there is no better way to put it. The money lines the pockets of the ruling class doing literally nothing for PAK citizens. Ending such aide would be in the best interest of the world. Sadly, I see no legislation (From the USA) to stop it any time soon. The US Media heralds it to the sheep as if we do it for some unknown greater good. The truth is often the last facts to be examined/analizd in such situations It bothers me.
 
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Asking the US to change its methods of influence for Pakistan is as simple and impossible as asking it to change its entire foreign policy doctrine since probably the 1930's

So you think the American public is hopeless? NO comment. While what I mention here is different. People from my personal home town worked with Imran Khan. Yes little to no traction was obtained politically. We were not even a thorn in the side of the CIA. However, in my community Indianapolis, Indiana (Where the Indy 500) is held, where 181st intel wing is just "down the road" along with other relevant operations - we opened eyes. My state was one of the primary reasons Obama won the election(who I am no fan of). We are not a petty state or people, nor it PAK. The fact my government deems actions legal behind closed doors, it is bound by constitution regardless of unjustifiable legislation dating back to the 40s. Changing government Is not an easy thing, nor should it be. While small and irrelevant, don't tell me what is possible or impossible. While staunchly divided, Donald Trump plays on this division, fear & paranoia. America is sick of our foreign policy. 75-80% of the time 100% of the nation agrees with me, regardless of party congress Is corrupt (25-30% approval).

“To the timid and hesitating everything is impossible because it seems so.” – Sir Walter Scott
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It only seems impossible until it is done.

My governments authority is limited by the constitution. While at this time we are an irrelevant minority. We have much in common with the angry & misled majority. If people would stop mocking or downplaying our ability to change, we would better off.

Sorry for the previous post, I am still learning to properly & effectively use the forums. I do not know what I did incorrectly but do not like the way it was formatted.
 
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When top leadership is " for sale" for few dollars and some visa, then who to blame.
 
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Billions of taxpayer dollars spent on development assistance have propped up the most repressive elements in Pakistani society. So it's time to alter the deal.

gettyimages-493750442_2-17.jpg


On Feb. 10, the Wall Street Journal reported that Sen. Bob Corker, chairman of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, plans to block the Barack Obama administration from financing the sale of up to eight F-16 fighter aircraft to Pakistan. In a letter to Secretary of State John Kerry, Corker observed that the U.S. relationship with Pakistan is “complicated and imperfect,” and that although cooperation has achieved “some of our interests,” Pakistan remains a “duplicitous partner, moving sideways rather than forward in resolving regional challenges.” Corker was particularly angered by Pakistan’s persistent support to the Haqqani faction of the Afghan Taliban.

Corker’s decision is no mere lonely move by a maverick legislator. It is a bellwether of widespread and growing frustration with Pakistan on Capitol Hill. The time has come to mend, if not end, U.S. assistance to Pakistan.

While Corker’s conclusions are essentially valid, his blanket hold on U.S.Foreign Military Financing (FMF) to Pakistan is only a stopgap measure. FMF in each of the past five years has averaged nearly $300 million. In addition, since 2001, Washington has reimbursed over $13 billion in Coalition Support Funds and provided some $9 billion in economic assistance to Pakistan between 2002 and 2014. Corker’s move is unlikely to resolve the widespread confusion — in Washington and Islamabad alike — over U.S. aims and expectations for assistance programming in Pakistan.

Mending U.S. assistance to Pakistan requires a more sophisticated and comprehensive approach for precisely the reasons that Corker notes: The countries continue to share both overlapping and diverging interests with this nuclear-armed nation of nearly 200 million people. Washington should keep the following points in mind as it reconsiders assistance to Pakistan.

First, Washington should be careful not to overestimate the leverage generated by U.S. assistance. It has learned this lesson through its long experience in Pakistan. Despite tens of billions of dollars in aid since 9/11, Islamabad still does not see the world through the United States’ preferred strategic prism — whether in Afghanistan, India, or on the issue of nuclear proliferation. Then again, history also shows that U.S. sanctions on Pakistan throughout the 1990s failed to curtail Pakistan’s nuclear ambitions, the political dominance of its military, or the state’s support to terrorist groups like the Taliban and Lashkar-e-Taiba that have engulfed the region in violence. Aid is no panacea. Neither are sanctions.

Second, U.S. assistance is never delivered in a vacuum; its political effects must be assessed in a broader context. For instance, U.S. lawmakers should not be surprised that billions of dollars in development assistance over the past decade failed to win Pakistani “hearts and minds,” when the arrival of that money coincided with a massive surge in violence at least partly caused by the U.S. war in neighboring Afghanistan.

Similarly, Sen. Corker’s threat to hold up FMF until Pakistan turns against the Haqqani network is only the latest wrinkle in the long, complicated saga of the U.S. war in Afghanistan and its associated dealings with Pakistan. Unfortunately, that saga is full of mixed messages being sent from Washington to Islamabad. Right now, U.S. officials are not simply using assistance as coercive leverage to force Pakistan to fight the Haqqanis; they are also asking for Pakistan’s help to facilitate a “reconciliation dialogue” with all factions of the Afghan insurgency (including the Haqqanis). These mixed messages come at a time of deep Pakistani doubts about the future of America’s commitment to Afghanistan’s struggling government and security forces. Under such circumstances, Pakistan’s decisions about how to manage relations with the Haqqanis will surely be influenced by many factors beyond U.S. aid.

Third, Pakistan is a high-stakes game for the United States. Washington should steer clear of risky policy moves — including threats to curtail assistance and reimbursements — unless they hold the realistic promise of significant gains. Washington must appreciate that fixing today’s patently broken aid strategy is a tricky business, and that some “solutions” could make the problem even worse. This is not an unqualified argument against cutting Pakistan’s aid, but only for thinking carefully and acting with purpose.

Many academics and pundits have correctly pointed out failings in U.S. assistance to Pakistan. Most damningly, they argue that U.S. aid is often worse than ineffective; it is positively counterproductive. These critics have a point:

Too often, American money has propped up some of the most repressive, anti-reformist leaders and institutions in Pakistani society, including the military and feudal civilian elites.Too often, American money has propped up some of the most repressive, anti-reformist leaders and institutions in Pakistani society, including the military and feudal civilian elites. So it is not altogether farfetched to argue that comprehensive, well-timed sanctions (including cutting indirect aid through multilateral lending institutions) could coerce Pakistan’s military and civilian establishment into enacting policies that would better serve U.S. interests. Indeed, the United States has successfully coerced Pakistan in the past — temporarily, at least. The George W. Bush administration’s post-9/11 “with us or against us” threat to then-President Pervez Musharraf forced Pakistan into an early, if fleeting and inadequate, alliance against al-Qaeda, one that netted several high-profile terrorists living in Pakistan like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.


But it is equally important to appreciate that U.S. attempts at coercion could backfire, raising tensions and weakening Pakistan in ways that make Islamabad both less willing and less capable of advancing any constructive agenda. One thing is certain: Rarely is Washington as capable of delivering a credible threat as it was in the days after 9/11. So unless the United States is really willing to pick a serious fight with Pakistan, it should avoid moves that irritate or weaken Islamabad when they hold little hope of advancing a serious strategic purpose.

Fourth, Washington needs to be much clearer about what it realistically expects to achieve with specific types of assistance to Pakistan. Whether provided for military or civilian purposes, U.S. aid is normally intended to serve one of several basic aims: building capacity, improving leverage, and buying access. Too often, the arguments for U.S. aid to Pakistan have been unconvincing because their purposes have been muddled. U.S. F-16s are a case in point. Are they intended to improve Pakistan’s counterinsurgency capacity along the Afghan border? Buy us more time in Army Chief Gen. Raheel Sharif’s office? Or, as Corker implies, to induce Pakistan’s army to attack the Haqqanis? The clearer and more realistic the aim, the easier it will be to judge whether the assistance is likely to deliver the desired outcome at a reasonable cost, the more likely it will win necessary congressional support, and the simpler it will be to explain to the Pakistanis.

Fifth, and finally, Washington should adopt a tripartite categorization of all assistance to Pakistan based on the degree to which the goals of each overlap. In the first category would be areas where there is a nearly complete convergence of American and Pakistani goals, but where the United States can offer financial, technical, or other support to lighten the burden on a relatively weaker, less-developed, and poorer nation.

Much of U.S. civilian assistance to Pakistan falls into this category, because it is principally aimed at improving the country’s economic prospects as a means of achieving greater security and political stability over the long run. Military assistance in Pakistan’s fight against domestic insurgent groups like the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan would also fall into this category, since Washington also views these groups as dangerous terrorists. U.S. aid in the category should be judged principally by its effectiveness, and its scale should be determined in part by how much is needed to make a meaningful difference to Pakistan’s future. Congress’s job is to oversee whether the executive branch is accurately assessing the effectiveness of that aid, but the money should not be burdened by onerous legislative conditions on the assumption that Pakistan will use it appropriately because Washington’s interests are more or less aligned.

In the second category would be areas of agreement over ends, but not means. Here, U.S. aid would be provided to advance common interests, but according to Washington’s preferences — not Islamabad’s. For instance, money for education would be conditioned on curriculum reform, or money for counterinsurgency linked to specialized training. This category of aid should be conditioned by Congress to make it more likely that it will be put to use in the ways defined by U.S. officials, but with enough flexibility to show that Washington’s main goal is cooperation, not coercive leverage.

In the third category would be areas of basic disagreement between Washington and Islamabad, such as longstanding disputes over the Haqqani network and Lashkar-e-Taiba. Aid in this category is clearly intended as leverage. It must include strictly legislated conditions, and should be structured in ways that delivery takes place only after Pakistan satisfies Washington’s requirements. Here, the goal is to demonstrate the value that the United States would place on a policy shift by Islamabad while simultaneously being honest to ourselves and the Pakistanis about the deep differences that threaten to derail the bilateral relationship altogether.

To be clear, none of these changes is likely to resolve the cognitive dissonance at the heart of the U.S.-Pakistan relationship, at least not quickly. But Sen. Corker’s letter is an important indicator that the present strategy is politically unsustainable, while more radical calls to end U.S. assistance altogether are either too simplistic or too risky. Better to undertake the serious effort of mending our assistance strategy, if only to more transparently and realistically connect means and ends in ways that Americans and Pakistanis will better understand.
Stop Writing Pakistan Blank Checks | Foreign Policy


americans, please do. Frankly were sick and tired of you and can't wait to see the back of you.
 
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So you think the American public is hopeless? NO comment. While what I mention here is different. People from my personal home town worked with Imran Khan. Yes little to no traction was obtained politically. We were not even a thorn in the side of the CIA. However, in my community Indianapolis, Indiana (Where the Indy 500) is held, where 181st intel wing is just "down the road" along with other relevant operations - we opened eyes. My state was one of the primary reasons Obama won the election(who I am no fan of). We are not a petty state or people, nor it PAK. The fact my government deems actions legal behind closed doors, it is bound by constitution regardless of unjustifiable legislation dating back to the 40s. Changing government Is not an easy thing, nor should it be. While small and irrelevant, don't tell me what is possible or impossible. While staunchly divided, Donald Trump plays on this division, fear & paranoia. America is sick of our foreign policy. 75-80% of the time 100% of the nation agrees with me, regardless of party congress Is corrupt (25-30% approval).

“To the timid and hesitating everything is impossible because it seems so.” – Sir Walter Scott
--
It only seems impossible until it is done.

My governments authority is limited by the constitution. While at this time we are an irrelevant minority. We have much in common with the angry & misled majority. If people would stop mocking or downplaying our ability to change, we would better off.

Sorry for the previous post, I am still learning to properly & effectively use the forums. I do not know what I did incorrectly but do not like the way it was formatted.

Part in bold- I've fixed it for you, don't worry too much, these things come with time on the forum.

And as to your main point, I'm not without hope for Americans, depends really on what exactly I can judge my hope on. Are you an advocate of small change or upheaval in a corrupt system? As far as I can see, there is very little room for substantial change within a system that is inherently flawed.

Corporate America and the interests of the few are supreme to all others it seems to me, very rarely and hard fought are any gains for everyone else. To put it simply, do you advocate a little more room in the cage or to break free of it?
 
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The Americans are living in a fantasy. China and other important regional players have already substituted and curtailed US influence in this country to a bare minimum. The US has nothing to threaten Pakistan with.

Pakistan policy vis-a-vis the US is simple. You want to provide military and economic aid? Please do so. You don't want to provide military and economic aid? Even better.

For Pakistan, American aid (which should really be termed a bribe) has been an unending curse. This is how the Pakistani people view American "help". Frankly, the people of Pakistan reject US military/economic aid. The US policy of bribing Pakistan has failed miserably and Chinese investment in the right areas has demonstrated this very clearly.

The interests of Pakistan and other regional powers such as China and Russia don't converge on many areas with US interests. The Americans need to understand that their fight isn't solely based against Pakistan.
its just displaced annoyance and anger....tax payers money i being used in a a war that was supposed to be over about a decade ago (Afghanistan) , a war that many politicians have labelled a mistake (Iraq), a war that seems never ending (Africa) ...things which surprisingly hasnt come out in papers together and as a major point as it was coming out when WOT was announced (every paper had it, every paper boasted how it will be over before they know it, every paper kept repeating daily movements...)
 
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Blank check? When did Pakistan got a Blank check. There is always Do More

Forget donation, we are not being paid for our losses for this friendship.
 
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america is a nation that unfortunately Pakistan has to deal with now and again. An unfortunate necessary evil. The very little contact we have with them the better. Least they do to us what they did the innocent people of Iraq 2003-12. As far as america os concerned, Pakistan should stick to lip service.
 
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Trillions of tax payers money spent in hell hole of wars like iraq syria and afghan US sud cut that down instead of crying about few billion dollars .US owes Pak more than what it offered so far we are fighting their fight we lost our 60 thousands men ...
But hey cutting down every single penny wont be a bad idea.. atleast people will try to stand on their feet..
 
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americans, please do. Frankly were sick and tired of you and can't wait to see the back of you.
This is a PAK problem as much as a US one. As far as I am aware there have been 0 assassinations for corrupt politicians in Pakistan refusing to accept American dollars. Corrupt Pak pols love the US dollar more than many.
Part in bold- I've fixed it for you, don't worry too much, these things come with time on the forum.

And as to your main point, I'm not without hope for Americans, depends really on what exactly I can judge my hope on. Are you an advocate of small change or upheaval in a corrupt system? As far as I can see, there is very little room for substantial change within a system that is inherently flawed.

Corporate America and the interests of the few are supreme to all others it seems to me, very rarely and hard fought are any gains for everyone else. To put it simply, do you advocate a little more room in the cage or to break free of it?
Allegory Of The Cave? You can only break free from prison when you realize you are in one - I see outside the cave.. Endless war is no longer sustainable. A 20trillion dollar debt proves this. Fear is the only tool the US Intelligence Community (US IC) has to manipulate the public into sponsoring its wars/action. Yes, the strangle hold the US IC has on the USG (US Government) remains strong. Other than debt 22 + American soldiers commit suicide each day, tens of thousands remain sick without help. There a steady decline in those signing up to kill for this government (join military). The treatment of veterans by the government is horrific.. America's infrastructure both physical and technological is falling apart. Gov is more interested in bombing bridges, rather than building our own. In 513BC the dangers of "the long war" was penned. My child will fight for their children, I will fight for mine - It wont be allowed.

I am advocating for electoral reform. 200 + candidates ran for POTUS (President) in 2016. Most Americans do not know this. There is no reason they can not be informed. The 2 ruling classes select 1 candidate from each party(Class - Rep; Dem) to give us the illusion of choice. Then every 4 years we argue (like sheep) about which is a "lesser evil". I am advocating to end 2 party Tyranny (2 class system). I see no reason violence is needed. But if the government wishes to "Bahrain" us - use violence & military to stop such change. I hope my friends in India, Pakistan, Iran, Europe, Brazil & other nations lend support or not allow it. This is not all "my" (America's) fault, this is a global pandemic - Problem. We work together or fail separately; the choice is ours. :)
 
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