Spymaster Petraeus may inflame ties with Pakistan

[ice_man]

He stabilised Iraq to a great extent that the bloody days of 2003-2004.

Results are there for you to see.

afghanistan and pakistan are not iraq! same policy can't work...won't work!

 

[53fd]

He stabilised Iraq to a great extent that the bloody days of 2003-2004.

Results are there for you to see.

Yes, the results are there to be seen: Iraq is under Iran's control now, which is nothing but failure.

 

[KS]

afghanistan and pakistan are not iraq! same policy can't work...won't work!

Maybe/May not be.

That is why I said only time will tell.

Most of the drone attacks take place in North Waziristan anyways, which is less than 0.5% of Pakistan in terms of land area.

They are a part of Pakistan none-the-less.

The Pakistani F-16 can easily take out the drones.

Ok you shoot down a drone. Great !

The next drone will come escorted with a F-18 or a F-15. Then ?

 

[Spring Onion]

He stabilised Iraq to a great extent that the bloody days of 2003-2004.

Results are there for you to see.

stabilized ??? by killing thousands of Iraqis, destroying infrastructure there ? and at last running away completely ruining the lives of Iraqi people if you call it stabilisation then you may have the same but i dont consider it as one

 

[53fd]

Ok you shoot down a drone. Great !

The next drone will come escorted with a F-18 or a F-15. Then ?

The drones have been coming at a service altitude of less than 10,000 feet. Don't think the next drone will come escorted with an F-18 or F-15. And Pakistan has the means necessary to counter that as well.

 

[KS]

1)The drones have been coming at a service altitude of less than 10,000 feet.2) Don't think the next drone will come escorted with an F-18 or F-15.3) And Pakistan has the means necessary to counter that as well.

1) Irrelevant
2) Why should I not think that ? Do they have the thousands of Hornets and Eagles for show ? They are for air-superiority over any part of the world.
3)USAF,Marine Air Wings, if they want, have the capability blow the PAF in half a day.So save the jingo cr@p.

 

[foxbat]

The drones have been coming at a service altitude of less than 10,000 feet. Don't think the next drone will come escorted with an F-18 or F-15. And Pakistan has the means necessary to counter that as well.

You may have the military power (maybe assuming F16's do not have kill switches), but surely the courage to do so is lacking in the political and military leadership at the moment

 

[foxbat]

afghanistan and pakistan are not iraq! same policy can't work...won't work!

The more things are different, the more they are the same.

You will be surprised simple focus on right things can accomplish..

 

[KS]

You may have the military power (maybe assuming F16's do not have kill switches), but surely the courage to do so is lacking in the political and military leadership at the moment

military power ? All they have is about 60 F-16s and only 18 are Blk 52s and they want to take on the USAF with that !

One Air wing from the 5 th fleet can effectively finish that.

 

[53fd]

1) Irrelevant
2) Why should I not think that ? Do they have the thousands of Hornets and Eagles for show ? They are for air-superiority over any part of the world.
3)USAF,Marine Air Wings, if they want, have the capability blow the PAF in half a day.So save the jingo cr@p.

We know that the Soviet Union had the second best Air Force in the world, we've seen how they've fared in Afghanistan. In 2006, we've seen how the Israeli Air Force fared against Hezbollah. We're seeing how Gaddafi is facing aerial bombardment as well. So don't get senti.

 

[ice_man]

Ok you shoot down a drone. Great !

The next drone will come escorted with a F-18 or a F-15. Then ?

then we will fight in the shade!! haha just felt like saying the spartan line :p

 

[ice_man]

military power ? All they have is about 60 F-16s and only 18 are Blk 52s and they want to take on the USAF with that !

One Air wing from the 5 th fleet can effectively finish that.

you cannot win anything by aerial bombardment!!!

if that was the case then Gadhafi would have been made to step down! saddam would have been removed after desert storm! bin laden would have been caught & mullah omar would have been in gutanamo!

 

[53fd]

military power ? All they have is about 60 F-16s and only 18 are Blk 52s and they want to take on the USAF with that !

One Air wing from the 5 th fleet can effectively finish that.

Pakistan has:

1. 40 JF-17 Thunder combat aircrafts
2. 63 F-16 Fighting Falcon combat aircrafts
3. 105 Dassault Mirage III combat aircrafts
4. 64 Dassault Mirage 5 combat aircrafts
5. 160 Chengdu F-7 Skybolt combat aircrafts
6. 263 Shenyang F-6 fighter aircrafts
7. 120 North American F-86 Sabre fighter aircrafts
8. 15 Lockheed F-104 Starfighter fighter aircrafts
9. 36 Supermarine (Type 583) Attacker fighter aircrafts
10. 97 Hawker Sea Fury fighter aircrafts
11. 30 B-57 Canberra bombing aircrafts
12. 16 Harbin H-5 bombing aircrafts
13. 15 Handley Page Halifax bombing aircrafts

It's also about to complete the acquisition of F-18 aircrafts in 2011.

 

[KS]

We know that the Soviet Union had the second best Air Force in the world, we've seen how they've fared in Afghanistan. In 2006, we've seen how the Israeli Air Force fared against Hezbollah. We're seeing how Gaddafi is facing aerial bombardment as well. So don't get senti.

When was I talking about ground invasion ?

Just that you cannot shoot down an USAF drone. Thats to it.

If you can you would have done long back.

Lol seriously these fanbois need to get a dose of reality before shooting down USAF planes.

then we will fight in the shade!! haha just felt like saying the spartan line :p

lol.

you cannot win anything by aerial bombardment!!!

if that was the case then Gadhafi would have been made to step down! saddam would have been removed after desert storm! bin laden would have been caught & mullah omar would have been in gutanamo!

What if they dont want to win ?

What if they just want to punish you (bomb you to stone age) for daring to shoot down their planes.

Dont tell me anything - its common knowledge that they are very much capable doing that.

 

[KS]

Pakistan has:

1. 40 JF-17 Thunder combat aircrafts
2. 63 F-16 Fighting Falcon combat aircrafts
3. 105 Dassault Mirage III combat aircrafts
4. 64 Dassault Mirage 5 combat aircrafts
5. 160 Chengdu F-7 Skybolt combat aircrafts
6. 263 Shenyang F-6 fighter aircrafts
7. 120 North American F-86 Sabre fighter aircrafts
8. 15 Lockheed F-104 Starfighter fighter aircrafts
9. 36 Supermarine (Type 583) Attacker fighter aircrafts
10. 97 Hawker Sea Fury fighter aircrafts
11. 30 B-57 Canberra bombing aircrafts
12. 16 Harbin H-5 bombing aircrafts
13. 15 Handley Page Halifax bombing aircrafts

It's also about to complete the acquisition of F-18 aircrafts in 2011.

OMG !!!



Good Luck beating the USAF with the antique tin cans like F-7,Mirage III and Mirage 5 and also somebody remind him F-6 ,F-86, Supermarine,F-104 et al have been retired long back.

Such a noob.